Barry Tallackson
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Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023-24 season part III
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Tyler leads the team in goals
Too early to say that. Timo has dealt with a bunch of injuries and poor deployment from Ruff.
Palat isn't bother me... especially when he's with Nico and Bratt and that line is cooking.
Timo again
He'll be fine
That's worrying a little too much
Good, F him.
Yes we do and Fitz needs to fix this right now. Goaltending is an emergency.
It’s unfortunate but you win as a team and lose as a team. I wouldn’t keep Toffoli because they played hard. They fell short. Blame it on injuries or whatever makes you feel better. One problem is that Fitz apparently doesnt see Ruff as part of thr problem which will hamper them until they either structure the roster to better play his obtuse system or they move on from him to a coach that can better utilize the personnel. I have faith they will bounce back next season. But this season will either have recovered or likely can be written off at the TDL. If they are say four points or less out of a spot with a game in hand or so then in that narrow circumstance you could convince me that adding a goalie for a lower tier pick or prospect would be ok.
My concern with Saros is he’s UFA after next season. It would be disastrous to lose him after 1 year. I imagine Fitz would not make that trade unless he’s resigned.
Opinions aren’t facts. You used a bunch of subjective terms. They can be your truths but they don’t have to be anyone else’s truths.
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Toffoli leads the team in goals? Great, he has one more than Sharangovich and is older, slower and a UFA
Teams are made of individuals, and teams make decisions on individual players, trades are made, contracts are signed on individuals.
The problem is the goal tending. I'm not looking to make a bad trade for an older goalie with a big contract. But, assuming a good trade for good goalie is not realistic, I would absolutely make a trade for a nondescript goalie just to see if that goalie can prove to be a better backstop.
I've mentioned Kahkonnen a bunch. What would it take to get him? I really don't know, but say it cost a 3rd rounder and maybe one of the late rnd russian d-man we've recently drafted, I'd absolutely do that.
Sure. That’s an easy thing to do. But if the team is floundering and they can clear maybe a first a third and a fourth for Toffoli Smith and Miller and use the third to land Kahknon that make more sense to me than letting them all play out their deals. My guess is most of thr players understand the reality of the lost season when it happens. Where they might have an issue is if Fitz doesn’t try for new goalie in the summer.
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Jesus f*** the block / ignore button is at an all time usage right now. Some of these reactionary takes are wild
Maybe the single worst post ive ever seen on this board in 14 years
Maybe the single worst post ive ever seen on this board in 14 years
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The first 3 points are all stupid. Sharangovich is an average player that was irrelevant on the team last year. Toffoli is better, and it doesn’t even matter much if he walks. It’s not that hard to find a player like Yegor — decent scorer with terrible territorial numbers and zero physicality (7 hits on the year).
Timo is injured and we can’t judge anything yet, but sure, make up your mind already. Hatakka is also probably better than Okhotyuk which is just a funny minor part of the deal.
Palat is also having a very good year, and him making like 1.5 million more than I’d probably like him to has next to zero effect on the team right now. When it matters, we may be able to move him or buy him out. If we didn’t have him, he’d 100% be the type of player people would want on our team.
Isn't this the same guy who at multiple points this season has said he's done with this team?
All good points but no reason to say someone else’s points are stupid. This has been an emotional season for many fans coming off last season and frustration gets the better of folks. They just want the team to be successful and are often at a loss when watching them. You offer great insights and are pretty level headed. You will be received better if you can offer a tough hand in a velvet glove.
Toffoli has one fewer point than Sharangovich in 3 less games played. Sure Shara is younger, but he's a streaky scorer (like many goal scorers). Nobody was singing his praises when he had like 2 goals in his first 15 or so games and Toffoli looked great with Jack and Bratt.
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They turned over half the roster, half of the forwards were injured and/or criminals, the top pair have been out for most of the season, the defense is now 2/3rds kids and you have the worst goaltending in the league.
And they’re still close to a spot with a coach who’s never been able to win. It is a f***ing miracle honestly.
Seems sick to think this but it’s almost exciting to know what they’ll be soon.
And they’re still close to a spot with a coach who’s never been able to win. It is a f***ing miracle honestly.
Seems sick to think this but it’s almost exciting to know what they’ll be soon.
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All that and somehow the team is still in a playoff chase.
Like Zetterlund it’s likely Shara never gets the chance in NJ to play the extra minutes. He was the Calgary first line center last night. That’s not going to happen in NJ. I’m happy for Shara but if NJ has decent goaltending and is in a playoff spot and if Jack is healthy all season nobody would complain as you’ve noted.
They are called Lovejoy supporters . I can’t stand them.
Honestly, part of me enjoys reading those posts. Because as much I let my fandom to this team emotionally drain me on a daily basis, I see posts like that and think “well, at least I can be objective and consider context, and I’m keeping my emotions in check much better than that person.”
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I've been anti Markstrom given the rumored demands from Calgary. And my issues are his age, his contract, and, moreso earlier this year, his numbers from last year.
But aside from last year, he's been good for 8 years, including this year.
If you can get him without giving up Holtz, Casey or a first, then I'm definitely interested.
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Can we give this guy an NHL deal?
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The Calgary Flames executive I met back in Boston in November told me the Devils were interested in Markstrom but wouldn't pony up enough to get him. It sucks that it is clearly a weakness that is dragging this team down but at the same time there is no need to mortgage valuable assets for a goalie who might just wind up sucking behind this defense/Ruff. I'd just try to move Vitek for another goalie in a change of scenery deal. Gibson isn't worth the commitment with all those extra years same with Markstrom. I'd try for maybe Vejmelka or Kahkonnen or some other goalie just to see how they stick.
He doesn't have a ton of experience but he is definitely flying under the radar for us. You never know long term what he can amount to. The kid is only 22 , very young .
He doesn't have a ton of experience but he is definitely flying under the radar for us. You never know long term what he can amount to. The kid is only 22 , very young .
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