Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2022-23 season thread part III

[Louskoolaid89]

saying the literal only productive winger (okay, maybe past Mercer) we have on the roster is expendable is certainly a take

Yeah hypeatheticly speaking. Like a mutual sign and trade with Vancouver and get some skill and sandpaper combo from the likes of Bo Horvat. Don't get me wrong if signed an extension yesterday I'd be good with that.

 

[Guttersniped]

Unpopular opinion incoming:
I think Jesper Bratt should be moved to another organization. He’s a nice guy but not tough enough and not consistent enough. Problem with a guy like him if he doesn’t score like he did in the first 20 games is that he disappears - no physical presence. Get a guy like Timo Meier and I think he will score at the same level if not more as 63 and when he doesn’t at least he can rock some bodies and get into the dog-fight when needed. Jesper won’t be cheap and I think we should invest in a different asset at this stage.

A physical presence and scoring aren’t the two only ways forwards affect what happens on the ice.

Yeah hypeatheticly speaking. Like a mutual sign and trade with Vancouver and get some skill and sandpaper combo from the likes of Bo Horvat. Don't get me wrong if signed an extension yesterday I'd be good with that.

Horvat? Good lord.

 

[Guttersniped]

Yeah hypeatheticly speaking. Like a mutual sign and trade with Vancouver and get some skill and sandpaper combo from the likes of Bo Horvat. Don't get me wrong if signed an extension yesterday I'd be good with that.

There has been one sign and trade ever in the NHL, Tkachuk, and if there was a player you wouldn’t want do that with its Horvat.

You want pay Horvat something stupid for 8 years? Why?

Horvat having sandpaper lol.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Among forwards, Jesper Bratt is number 1 in the NHL in CF%, number 7 in actual GF%, number 2 in xGF%, number 4 in HDCF%, number 20 in total 5 on 5 points. We cannot replace this player.

 

[Guttersniped]

Another unpopular opinion incoming:

Until Palat comes back, I want to see Holtz stapled to Jack’s wing for the next two games. He’s not meant for bottom 6 minutes and he really hasn’t been put in the position to succeed. If he falls on his face, send him down. Put him on PP1 and see what he has. Detroit and the Blues are our next two…f*** it—give the dude a chance.

The popularity of this take on the board doesn’t matter, we aren’t Ruff.

 

[Mgd31]

2 wins in a row and we're back

I like the optimism

 

[Guttersniped]

Among forwards, Jesper Bratt is number 1 in the NHL in CF%, number 7 in actual GF%, number 2 in xGF%, number 4 in HDCF%, number 20 in total 5 on 5 points. We cannot replace this player.

What’s his Sandpaper/60 vs Horvat’s?

Horvat is probably about to get a very stupid huge contract, his goal scoring is fluky as fact this season and a bunch of teams need 2Cs (or even 1Cs).

 

[RSeen]

Yeah hypeatheticly speaking. Like a mutual sign and trade with Vancouver and get some skill and sandpaper combo from the likes of Bo Horvat. Don't get me wrong if signed an extension yesterday I'd be good with that.

Horvat is a strong candidate to get the worst contract of this upcoming free agency. Easy pass.

 

[youryeah]

the amount of disdain jesper bratt gets on this forum is quite frankly, nutty

 

[ninetyeight]

Just because Holtz isn't ready yet, doesn't mean he'll never be ready. Tage Thompson was an AHL guy for his first 4 seasons after being drafted, and then had 8 goals in 38games. Two years later, 7 years after being drafted he's now coming from a 38goal season and pacing for over 60 goals so far. Things change and people develop.

And spare me with your 'but his skating will forever hold him back' bs, his skating is fine he's already taken big steps in that aspect, there's plenty of worse skaters in the league. His timing and hockey iq is not there yet, he needs at least a full (60+ game) season to get comfortable with the tempo and pace. He needs to be more intelligent with his positioning and learn to anticipate where the puck will end up.

Haula has been absolutely atrocious the last few games, so I'd 100% be behind giving Holtz a game or two with Hughes instead of Haula. He needs to play and let him make his mistakes, or he'll never learn. And he needs to play in the role he fits the best.

 

[Devs3cups]

the amount of disdain jesper bratt gets on this forum is quite frankly, nutty

Yeah, I understand people being unhappy with his recent stretch (seems like he's coming out of it) and joking around about his salary tanking, but suggesting about getting rid of him entirely is concerning and definitely not the move for this team.

 

[Its Always Sundstrom]

Back to back games with 4 goals is a good start.

Now if they can avoid anymore further alien abductions, life would be cream cheese.

 

[JrFischer54]

Unpopular opinion incoming:
I think Jesper Bratt should be moved to another organization. He’s a nice guy but not tough enough and not consistent enough. Problem with a guy like him if he doesn’t score like he did in the first 20 games is that he disappears - no physical presence. Get a guy like Timo Meier and I think he will score at the same level if not more as 63 and when he doesn’t at least he can rock some bodies and get into the dog-fight when needed. Jesper won’t be cheap and I think we should invest in a different asset at this stage.

you look new here. you aren't going to get a lot of move bratt supporters on here but i think thats the right choice. apparently bratt is an analytic "unicorn" or something i read on here.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

you look new here. you aren't going to get a lot of move bratt supporters on here but i think thats the right choice. apparently bratt is an analytic "unicorn" or something i read on here.

Helping your team score goals when you’re on the ice and preventing the other team from scoring is relatively important if you ask me. One could say it’s literally the most important thing, actually. “Analytics” tho

 

[Eggtimer]

I want Holtz to readh his potentail , but I also would be fine with trading him for a known player like Meier. I am just not sure if Holtz can be what we need him to be and I don’t want to lose a highly drafted player that ends up not reaching potential . I’m nkt saying he will be a bust . I am just saying at this point I am good with movig him for a known asset.

 

[Guttersniped]

Helping your team score goals when you’re on the ice and preventing the other team from scoring is relatively important if you ask me. One could say it’s literally the most important thing, actually. “Analytics” tho

Don’t tell them that analytics tells us about the events on the ice, they love their “eye test” and by eye test I mean basic stat watching.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Back to back games with 4 goals is a good start.

Now if they can avoid anymore further alien abductions, life would be cream cheese.

Theres a Dano meme here

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Don’t tell them that analytics tells us about the events on the ice, they love their “eye test” and by eye test I mean basic stat watching.

What’s especially weird about Bratt hate is that he has one of the most impressive “eye tests” out there. He’s been a bit off of late, but only Jack Hughes does more that jumps off the screen on a regular basis for us.

 

[glenwo2]

the amount of disdain jesper bratt gets on this forum is quite frankly, nutty

I blame BrattPack guy for that.

 

[glenwo2]

I bet Jr doesn't even read any of the responses to his silly takes.

Bratt is not going to be traded.

Let's get that through the thick skulls of those fantasizing about it, okay?

I was just as frustrated as many during Bratt's cold spell and now it seems like he's started to come out of it, thankfully.

But I looked at it as him becoming more affordable "contract-wise" and never once would I ever seriously entertain a deal involving him, especially for Bo f'n Horvat (are you all kidding me?).

 

[Its Always Sundstrom]

Theres a Dano meme here

 

[NjDevsRR]

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Nah, BUT, it’s my 20,000th post. OH MY.

 

[Its Always Sundstrom]

Nah, BUT, it’s my 20,000th post. OH MY.

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Congrats. Good expected likes per posts for (xLPF) vs posting ratio percentage numbers but your eye test is woeful.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Congrats. Good expected likes per posts for (xLPF) vs posting ratio percentage numbers but your eye test is woeful.

* @billingtons ghost intensifies*

 

[Better Call Sal]

Popular opinion here most likely

Jack is a star and could very well end up the most talented forward to ever put on our jersey.

This guy up here though? The pure heart and soul of the team. He is playing at such an impressive level this season and is showing why he deserved the C just two years ago.

I’m thrilled he’s ours.