Post-Game Talk: Devils @ Rangers

[Kovalev27]

https://nypost.com/2021/02/16/unacceptable-rangers-cant-avoid-david-quinn-blame-game-anymore/

there is the first official shot fired at Quinn it will only get worse as this continues on

 

[huerter]

The Kreider postgame was the most illuminating quotes of the season. Where he basically said the silver lining in the season up until tonight was that they were laying a foundation for how they want to play. I get cised to hear that. LFGR. We're going north fellas. Might not be on a rocket ship but we definitely are steered in the right direction. And you gotta credit Quinn for such a dramatic turnaround with the youngest group in the league.

 

[Edge]

Neither have I but they both should be putting up better numbers. LAF was the most talented player in a great draft class and 1OA. He should be having more of an impact on the score sheet.

He should, and yet he isn't.

Some can point to Quinn. Some can point to puck luck. Some can point to other factors.

But it is strange to me, because I don't know if it's any one thing, and the fact that it's even a thing at all is weird.

But it's also not limited to just our kids. No one from the last 2 drafts is really scoring the way you'd think. Some numbers are higher, but also a little misleading as well.

Regardless, you're not really seeing those higher numbers --- even in year two for some guys --- despite some really good play.

 

[NYRangers16]

They are fine, but again I'm not focusing on the newbies here because they are not the problem, even though there's a major issue with how laf is performing rn

Zibanejad putting up 3 points in 14 games is insanely concerning

The amount of turnovers and goals against and penalties that trouba has been responsible is absolutely unacceptable

The coaching staff's insistence of playing jack johnson when he is healthy

Buchnevich's inconsistencies


These problems on their own would indicate an issue with the players specifically. ALL of these problems at the same time indicates a higher level issue

Oh, I agree.

Zibby may still be affected by covid related issues... concerning no matter what. The inflamation that it causes is real and long lasting. We don’t know if it’s that or a coaching issue.

Laf is a rookie... no concerns there.

Buch is Buch. I think he is what he is at this point.

Trouba was a mistake to begin with.

Rebuilds aren’t straight lines. We do need to remember to be patient.

 

[Edge]

there is the first official shot fired at Quinn it will only get worse as this continues on

You know, there's also a lot on here that is directed at this board:

"I can promise you that the Rangers do not believe their problem lies behind the bench with the head coach. No one in the team hierarchy wants to point a finger at David Quinn. No one wants to have to make a coaching change."

"Quinn gets called out all the time on social media for his failure to develop kids. That’s a ball of malarkey. Kakko — maybe the club’s best in this one, and that is not meant as faint praise — has made dramatic strides over the past two weeks. Adam Fox, Ryan Lindgren and K’Andre Miller speak for themselves. Pavel Buchnevich, tweaked by the coach prior to the game, responded. His game has improved by leaps and bounds playing for Quinn. Lafreniere? No, I don’t think the coach is responsible for the No. 1’s one-goal and one-point output."

Basically the tone of the article, despite the headline, is basically the shit that's been said on here.

Right now, there is nothing imminent with the coach.

Right now, the team doesn't really view it as something he isn't doing.

Could that change? Sure, but it's probably not right now or on the immediate horizon.

And here's the thing, the Rangers are not alone in this thought.

I want to emphasize this point if for no other reason than to underscore that this isn't the Rangers not wanting to call their "friend" on the carpet, or because they have a blind sport for Quinn, or some of the other interesting theories I've received via DM tonight.

Again, none of this is a infinite line of credit for Quinn. But right now, it's not an internal breaking point either.

 

[SRHRangers]

Off topic.

Ryan Rucco and Richard Jefferson are such homer slurping announcers, that they make Michael Kay an unbias one.

One reason why I still love Sam and Joe.

 

[Filip Chytil]

Team deserves a long road trip where they are stuck in their shitty hotel rooms.

With toilets that don't flush properly which forces you to use the plunger as if you're being overrun by a division of Soviet commandos in the middle of winter in Siberia

 

[NYRangers16]

You know, there's also a lot on here that is directed at this board:

"I can promise you that the Rangers do not believe their problem lies behind the bench with the head coach. No one in the team hierarchy wants to point a finger at David Quinn. No one wants to have to make a coaching change."

"Quinn gets called out all the time on social media for his failure to develop kids. That’s a ball of malarkey. Kakko — maybe the club’s best in this one, and that is not meant as faint praise — has made dramatic strides over the past two weeks. Adam Fox, Ryan Lindgren and K’Andre Miller speak for themselves. Pavel Buchnevich, tweaked by the coach prior to the game, responded. His game has improved by leaps and bounds playing for Quinn. Lafreniere? No, I don’t think the coach is responsible for the No. 1’s one-goal and one-point output."

Basically the tone of the article, despite the headline, is basically the shit that's been said on here.

Right now, there is nothing imminent with the coach.

Right now, the team doesn't really view it as something he isn't doing.

Could that change? Sure, but it's probably not right now or on the immediate horizon.

And here's the thing, the Rangers are not alone in this thought.

I want to emphasize this point if for no other reason than to underscore that this isn't the Rangers not wanting to call their "friend" on the carpet, or because they have a blind sport for Quinn, or some of the other interesting theories I've received via DM tonight.

Again, none of this is a infinite line of credit for Quinn. But right now, it's not an internal breaking point either.

Funny they are addressing issues like this so directly. Wonder what that means...

Maybe the TDA talk has them sensitive?

 

[Filip Chytil]

The fat lady has sung on this season.

The fat lady has been stuffing her face with doughnuts in the middle of a Krispy Kreme in northwest Idaho since the first NJD game

 

[Filip Chytil]

Don’t worry guys if Trouba is out that means Smith can shift to the right and Johnson can plug back in

All of our problems will be solved

The dream pairing: Smith and Johnson

Quinn won't be able to sleep the next couple nights. Can't contain his excitement.

 

[Edge]

Funny they are addressing issues like this so directly. Wonder what that means...

Maybe the TDA talk has them sensitive?

From a communications standpoint, there is some...debate as to how the Rangers have handled talking about this. (There is little to no debate about the actions taken.)

But, it is worth pointing out that people might be surprised by who reads these boards.

The list includes players, agents (or their staff), front office personnel, scouts, commentators, reporters, and league officials.

They don't hang out on here, but they are very aware of the comments.

They are also very aware of the user names associated with the comments, and sometimes the people connected to those user names --- especially if those names are used for other platforms or link back to someone's social media accounts.

And some names stand out. They might joke about the ones who they feel "get it" or wonder if some people are actually their peers. Sometimes they are complimentary of members.

Likewise, they also know full well people on the end of the spectrum, or who shouldn't quit their day jobs, or they joke about whether some members have taken their medication that day.

So, when people wonder why certain comments feel like they're lifted from conversations on here, it's because...they are.

 

[Filip Chytil]

We should have at least hired a college coach that's actually won a college title. I'd hire whoever it was that coached Fox and whoever it was that coached Miller at this point.

I'd take Conan O'Brien over David Quinn as head coach right now

 

[NYRangers16]

From a communications standpoint, there is some...debate as to how the Rangers have handled talking about this. (There is little to no debate about the actions taken.)

But, it is worth pointing out that people might be surprised by who reads these boards.

The list includes players, agents (or their staff), front office personnel, scouts, commentators, reporters, and league officials.

They don't hang out on here, but they are very away of the comments.

They are also very aware of the user names associated with the comments, and sometimes the people connected to those user names --- especially if those names are used for other platforms or link back to someone's social media accounts.

And some names stand out. They might joke about the ones who they feel "get it" or wonder if some people are actually their peers. Sometimes they are complimentary of some members.

Likewise, they also know full well people on the end of the spectrum, or who shouldn't quit their day jobs, or the joke about whether some members have taken their medication that day.

So, when people wonder why certain comments feel like they're lifted from conversations on here, it's because...they are.

Good to know, and understandable.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

The Devils have a winning record and smacked the Rangers twice now, so they are the better team. Also, Jack Hughs is the best young hockey player between the two teams, not even close!!

Hughes was completely invisible tonight.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Only positive of this is that KK is looking like the 2nd overall pick

 

[Bluto]

FWIW Strome did some amazing things on the ice. The pass to himself followed by the deke had my jaw on the floor. Rangers have absolutely no puck luck this year.

 

[EdJovanovski]

FWIW Strome did some amazing things on the ice. The pass to himself followed by the deke had my jaw on the floor. Rangers have absolutely no puck luck this year.

It’s Ryan Strome’s world, we’re just living in it

 

[Edge]

FWIW Strome did some amazing things on the ice. The pass to himself followed by the deke had my jaw on the floor. Rangers have absolutely no puck luck this year.

Strome has those moments where you can see the abilities that made him a high pick.

And then he’ll do something that makes you yell at your screen like a crazy person. And then he’ll do four more things that make you yell at your screen again.

 

[Synergy27]

Strome has those moments where you can see the abilities that made him a high pick.

And then he’ll do something that makes you yell at your screen like a crazy person. And then he’ll do four more things that make you yell at your screen again.

Strome plays with the entitlement of his pedigree. If he put in the work like a guy like Blackwell does he’d be a legitimate first line player in this league. It’s strange given his contract situation that he doesn’t seem to see the writing on the wall for his career.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Laf is a rookie... no concerns there.

You see, this is bullshit. He's not just some run of the mill rookie. What he's doing is becoming historically bad.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

As much as I like to harp on Strome along with everyone else he’s not as bad as he’s made out to be. Sure he has his faults, who doesn’t, but he’s more than serviceable as a 2c. The Rangers could do worse. He’s at his best when he’s distributing pucks to his wingers on the go. Now, that doesn’t bode well in the playoffs when fast breaks and time and space are limited, but he’s not as bad as people think. That line was our best line tonight. Mika? Like I said, Space Jam monsters stole his powers.

 

[2014nyr]

Are you worried about Laf scoring 1 goal in 14 games? I am and I'm trying to figure out what is wrong.

nothing wrong per se in the sense of his long term projection. as far as output this year think there's a few things that have impacted - 1 is covid sitch ..long break, short camp, no preseason 2 is in btw nature of roster where he's walking in w/ panarin/mika as the big names and mentally thats diff than walking into a room where you're counted on from day 1. 3 is he's a bit sluggish off the jump so he's not terribly effective in small areas in the o zone which will change as he gets stronger. 4 nature of the roster where we dont have a center ideal for him right now...his biggest strengths would be getting pucks w/ pace going up ice to attack on the rush or cutting in the high slot for with his release - doesn't see many of either. he's not ready to be a play driver yet. 5 confidence - he has had a good bit of chances and flashed his ability to create, at times in pretty regular spurts but almost nothing drops. think the one drawback to his first coming in ot is he didn't get any shifts immediately after to skate with that adrenaline. he does seem to be handling the lack of scoring extremely well overall but for a kid thats scored all his life theres no way there isn't some effect.

the team sucking around him has a big impact too. he's not ready to lead. but i think its a safe bet that if mika was going and the kreider/buch/kakko/stromes were scoring and we were winning he'd have chipped in a good amount more. but he's not going to jump in and carry the team. just don't think its fair to look at him as if he's off or not what we thought he was - and admittedly i did think he'd be able to control more right away, didn't see the quickness issue and thought it things would go smoother. but the real issue is the pieces that have been around and should be putting him in a much better situation for success.

instead our best pp weapon is gone. our backup goalie couldn't stop brett howden on a breakaway. marc staal has more goals than mika, fox, laf, gauthier, howden, lemieux, and trouba. we have the 5th worst pp in the league. and we have jack johnson. welcome to the show kid. at a certain point he'll start to figure enough out to produce and build some confidence..but he's not going to take over this year.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Strome plays with the entitlement of his pedigree. If he put in the work like a guy like Blackwell does he’d be a legitimate first line player in this league. It’s strange given his contract situation that he doesn’t seem to see the writing on the wall for his career.

He seems like a bright guy in his interviews. I wonder if him and the guys wearing A's are the types to overanalyze their own performances in a way that isn't really helpful, especially in a slump.

 

[Idlerlee]

Can we stop turning into Edmonton?

 

[Profet]

I think what's weird to me is how you go from multiple guys having career years, to two of those guys have not just drop-offs, but nightmare starts to the season.

It's hot or cold, with little in-between.

Just sounds like a coaching staff that has lost the room.