Devils Rangers line brawl to start the game (8 game misconducts given out)

[HBK27]

I mean... you're not wrong... but that's in a vacuum. By the time the defense picked dancing partners the forwards were already squared off. Marino got to pick between Trouba and Miller.

He did pick the lesser fighter of the two (I don't think Miller has had an NHL scrap before this... but maybe I'm wrong).

That said, if both coaches knew what was going to happen, I think you would have seen Cuylle and Lindgren out there for the Rangers rather than Vesey and Miller, and Smith rather than Marino.

It was a no-win situation for Marino. Both Rangers defensemen had a few inches on him and 30 pounds. The other poster referring to either of them as "the weakest link" when they've both got a significant size/weight advantage on Marino is completely dishonest though.

Agreed that neither coach was planning on all the guys fighting, as they would've had at least a few different players out there.

 

[Fatass]

I preferred the 2012 version. Also what was that camera work? And game misconduct for everyone? Seriously?

Us fans love this stuff. The league is in the entertainment business, and brawls and fights get fans up on their feet in the rink and shouting at their TV at home. The league should be promoting more of this exciting entertainment. Five minutes for fighting and then get the boys back out there to entertain more.

 

[Lt Dan]

Everyone is talking about this on Twitter and the NHL , as usual, reacts the wrong way

Give the people what they want

 

[RANDOMH3RO]

The whole "this wouldn't have happened if Rempe answered the bell last game" is such a whiny ass excuse for what happened.

The best revenge is winning on the scoreboard, but the Devils were more concerned about the sideshow. Last game too. Meanwhile, the Rangers basically put a dagger in any hope the Devils might have had going into last night.

If you elbow a guy in the head that gets you a big suspension and then mock the other team as you’re escorted off the ice, you’re going to need to answer for it. You’ve watched hockey before, you know this.

 

[AslanRH]

My main takeaway from this thread is that a lot of "big fans" have no idea what the current rules are.
It's like the folks who still think a 2way contract means a player is waiver exempt

 

[Profet]

My main takeaway from this thread is that a lot of "big fans" have no idea what the current rules are.
It's like the folks who still think a 2way contract means a player is waiver exempt

Not really sure what you are saying here... since many of the players and coaches don't know the minutia of the rules that are rarely enforced.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

For the life of me I can't understand why coaches and professional players don't know the rules to their own game. The second these started I knew exactly which players would be allowed to stay in the game and knew the other 8 were getting booted.

Honestly who cares who won these fights, it was cool but doesn't really matter in the long run, what was important was the 2 points and the Devils failed to get them.

 

[cliffclaven]

Which is stupid in it's own right. What did the fans do, run for the exits offended or stand and cheer, hoot and holler, pumping the atmosphere to playoff levels? I think Bettman is the one who needs talking to

Agreed. With all the new bs rules and this crap of giving game misconducts for fighting, bettman and his clowns are slowly but surely taking any passion out of the game. They think robotic players and goals sell games. They couldn’t be more wrong.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Just guys being dudes

Dudes!

 

[Machinehead]

Not really sure what you are saying here... since many of the players and coaches don't know the minutia of the rules that are rarely enforced.

I think he's referring to the fact that the league has had an automatic game misconduct for secondary fights since forever.

 

[Profet]

Agreed. With all the new bs rules and this crap of giving game misconducts for fighting, bettman and his clowns are slowly but surely taking any passion out of the game. They think robotic players and goals sell games. They couldn’t be more wrong.

Rivalries are hockey.

 

[Tawnos]

If you elbow a guy in the head that gets you a big suspension and then mock the other team as you’re escorted off the ice, you’re going to need to answer for it. You’ve watched hockey before, you know this.

I mean, he did end up answering for the Siegenthaler hit last night, which is the one he got suspended for. Kind of hard for him to have answered for it before last night considering he was ejected from that game and this is the first time they've played since.

The Bastian hit is the one Green and others have whined about him "not answering for"... which is true, he didn't end up answering it. He didn't drop the gloves with MacDiarmid in the game a few weeks ago. That was mostly because the coaching staff was trying to get him to stay focused on playing a hard, but controlled game. We know Rempe wanted to fight, but he also wants to play and that means trying to do what the coaches are telling him to do. Obviously, Rempe ultimately failed at keeping his game totally under control that night and ended up throwing the elbow he threw.

The point is, though, that the Devils have been overly concerned with the sideshow and it's at least part of the reason they've lost these last two games, both of which they really needed to stay in the picture.

 

[cliffclaven]

I preferred the 2012 version. Also what was that camera work? And game misconduct for everyone? Seriously?

Have you seen the group chat on YouTube where rupp and all the other guys talk about that line brawl? They’re all laughing and having a good time. It’s awesome.

 

[Ezekial]

What really gets the fans going is a player climbing into the stands and beating a fan with their shoe.

 

[PaulD]

Could we actually have a genuine rivalry coming back to the NHL?

Have you seen the group chat on YouTube where rupp and all the other guys talk about that line brawl? They’re all laughing and having a good time. It’s awesome.

Rupp and another employer were interviewed at the game after first period. They said they loved it. Adding MSG was loudest they have heard it in years.

 

[Voight]

Just over 12 years ago, glad to see them embrace history.

 

[Neil Racki]

At least Rempe finally answered after ducking .. I give him half credit.

Good ole line brawl, thats good to see.

I guess .. violence does have a place in hockey now? Right Dolan? Crickets after you got yourself a Rempe ... maybe all that whining a few years ago was just sore loser whinning since you were on the beating end of it.

 

[RANDOMH3RO]

I mean, he did end up answering for the Siegenthaler hit last night, which is the one he got suspended for. Kind of hard for him to have answered for it before last night considering he was ejected from that game and this is the first time they've played since.

The Bastian hit is the one Green and others have whined about him "not answering for"... which is true, he didn't end up answering it. He didn't drop the gloves with MacDiarmid in the game a few weeks ago. That was mostly because the coaching staff was trying to get him to stay focused on playing a hard, but controlled game. We know Rempe wanted to fight, but he also wants to play and that means trying to do what the coaches are telling him to do. Obviously, Rempe ultimately failed at keeping his game totally under control that night and ended up throwing the elbow he threw.

The point is, though, that the Devils have been overly concerned with the sideshow and it's at least part of the reason they've lost these last two games, both of which they really needed to stay in the picture.

I’m a little dubious on the claim that Rempe wants to play if he’s been thrown out of 3 straight games against the devils but that’s irrelevant. Devils have been shit on from all angles this seasons and it boiled over last night. I think every devils fan needed to see that, the season is already lost they’re clearly not a playoff team this season the game barely matters.

 

[Profet]

At least Rempe finally answered after ducking .. I give him half credit.

Good ole line brawl, thats good to see.

I guess .. violence does have a place in hockey now? Right Dolan? Crickets after you got yourself a Rempe ... maybe all that whining a few years ago was just sore loser whinning since you were on the beating end of it.

I mean... he complained... the league decided with their actions that violence has a place in hockey.

The Rangers adapted. Why is that a bad thing?

 

[Ruggs225]

Rivalries are hockey.

Exactly which is why the NHL needs to cut down on cross conference games and make more divisional games.

 

[Voight]

I find the "Devils gotta win something" chirps ironic... haven't they won 3 cups since the Rangers last one?

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

For the life of me I can't understand why coaches and professional players don't know the rules to their own game. The second these started I knew exactly which players would be allowed to stay in the game and knew the other 8 were getting booted.

Honestly who cares who won these fights, it was cool but doesn't really matter in the long run, what was important was the 2 points and the Devils failed to get them.

Nah in this case the points didn't really matter to NJ, NJ had to respond after Rempe concussed two of their players and ducked a fight last game. Both coaches knew it, and got it out of the way early, to avoid further escalation and someone getting injured.

I know it's "stupid" but it had to happen. You have to punch the bully back sometimes.

 

[saintunspecified]

Idk it seems like the league intervenes all the time.

For instance,
Feb 22: Rempe is ejected for a headshot.
March 11: Rempe is ejected for a headshot
March 12: Rempe is suspended 4 games for the 3/11 headshot
April 3: Rempe is ejected for fighting in a second altercation

These kinds interventions have been so ineffective for so either (i) the league simply won't learn or is stupid or, (ii) the interventions are cynical - they are some combination of legal risk mitigation/PR management.

I don't know whether the league is stupid or cynical, but any sincere defense of an obviously ineffective approach is as stupid as the approach it defends considered as if it were sincere.

 

[Tawnos]

I’m a little dubious on the claim that Rempe wants to play if he’s been thrown out of 3 straight games against the devils but that’s irrelevant. Devils have been shit on from all angles this seasons and it boiled over last night. I think every devils fan needed to see that, the season is already lost they’re clearly not a playoff team this season the game barely matters.

He hasn't been thrown out against anyone else.

And that last sentence? That's exactly what I'm saying is weak. I'd rather my team push hard to win games and get into the playoffs than win symbolic victories (which, by the way, they didn't even do).

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Nah in this case the points didn't really matter to NJ, NJ had to respond after Rempe concussed two of their players and ducked a fight last game. Both coaches knew it, and got it out of the way early, to avoid further escalation and someone getting injured.

I know it's "stupid" but it had to happen. You have to punch the bully back sometimes.

Sure they had to respond, with MacDermid fighting Rempe. The rest of them fighting was pointless and they should have known it would make them lose 4 players on the back side of a back to back.