News: Devils open to trading No. 10 pick in 2024 NHL Draft, looking for goalie

[cheesymc]

Way too much IMO.

Assuming NJ was interested in Gibson (a big assumption), I think Gibson @ 30% retained for 10OA would be fair. Gibson has 3 years left on a deal that would cost NJ $4.5 million per year. That's not bad value if NJ believes he can still be an upper tier NHL goalie.

I think Verbeek would like to sign some RHD so Vaakanainen should be available if he wants to give Zellweger games. Devils have alot of openings on their blueline and Urho would be a really young and cheap signing. Verbeek also wants to sign right-shot forwards and Max gives additional grit and size to the Devils that got bullied by the Rangers. I don't think Verbeek wants to retain at all on Gibson so that's why I think he would be willing to give up the picks in order to select a guy he really likes at 10th. Devils probably would send over contracts they want to move on from, maybe like a Nolan Foote?

 

[dgibb10]

Way too much IMO.

Assuming NJ was interested in Gibson (a big assumption), I think Gibson @ 30% retained for 10OA would be fair. Gibson has 3 years left on a deal that would cost NJ $4.5 million per year. That's not bad value if NJ believes he can still be an upper tier NHL goalie.

John Gibson is probably still close to worthless at 4.5 million dollars.

We are onto a half decade straight of below average play from gibson

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I think the Devils are open to trading 10oa and are looking for a goalie, not they're looking to trade 10 for a goalie.
Fitz is trying to get an impact player that helps the team now for 10 and is also looking for a goalie. Two transactions, not one.

 

[dgibb10]

I think the Devils are open to trading 10oa and are looking for a goalie, not they're looking to trade 10 for a goalie.
Fitz is trying to get an impact player that helps the team now for 10 and is also looking for a goalie. Two transactions, not one.

EG:

10th+something for Fehervary+17th

17th for Ullmark

Something like that

 

[bleachdrinker]

Would SJ trade back Mackenzie Blackwood for that?

 

[Gurglesons]

Why trade 10th overall when you can have Tristan Jarry for free?

 

[Forge]

Not necessarily for the 10th overall but I wonder if John Gibson could fit for the devils. Hes had sub par years the last 2 seasons but he’s playing on a young lottery team with thin defense. Also, Dostal looks like he’s ready to be a starter.

Devils traded a top10 pick for Schneider once upon a time. I don’t think Gibson is where Schneider was at that time as far as value though.

I don't know if anyone has done a deep dive on it, but I'm curious what the difference between Gibson and Elvis is the last three years. Its weird how Elvis is poison in that regard but Gibson still has this hold over people

 

[justHypnos]

I think Verbeek would like to sign some RHD so Vaakanainen should be available if he wants to give Zellweger games. Devils have alot of openings on their blueline and Urho would be a really young and cheap signing. Verbeek also wants to sign right-shot forwards and Max gives additional grit and size to the Devils that got bullied by the Rangers. I don't think Verbeek wants to retain at all on Gibson so that's why I think he would be willing to give up the picks in order to select a guy he really likes at 10th. Devils probably would send over contracts they want to move on from, maybe like a Nolan Foote?

They don’t have any openings on the blue line at all. They have rookies. Don’t think they want to send Hughes and Nemec back to the AHL, and they can’t with Marino/Siegenthaler/Hamilton. I don’t see how Vaakanainen is any better than Bahl. I also don’t see how Gibson is any better than Vanecek over the last 4 years who they just paid to get rid of. For the 10th overall pick all those players are contracts and cap dumps, not interesting.

 

[Forge]

Flames aren't getting 10 for Markstrom, even with retention.

10 probably gets any of Saros, Ullmark, etc - if they will sign.

10 is overkill on ullmark as well, especially since I feel pretty good that he's going to significantly limit his suitors if not work it so he can't be traded at all

 

[SJinNewJersey]

Flyers offer Carter Hart...

Devs will give you McLeod and Cal Foote.

 

[Boo Boo]

would dostal be fair

 

[Juxtaposer]

Would SJ trade back Mackenzie Blackwood for that?

Obviously. No way Jersey would want him back, never mind for the 10th overall. He’s been solid in SJ but he burned his bridges in NJ and he’s only a year from free agency anyway.

would dostal be fair

Dostal is a solid young goaltender but he isn’t nearly proven enough to land a top-10 puck.

Better offer than Gibson at least…

 

[SI90]

Spot the difference between Schneider in the 3 years pre trade to Gibson's last 3 years.

The only realistic comps to Schneider in the current NHL are, Jeremy Swayman and Thatcher DemkoView attachment 879471View attachment 879472

Why didn’t you quote my whole post? I acknowledged that.

 

[HBK27]

I think Verbeek would like to sign some RHD so Vaakanainen should be available if he wants to give Zellweger games. Devils have alot of openings on their blueline and Urho would be a really young and cheap signing. Verbeek also wants to sign right-shot forwards and Max gives additional grit and size to the Devils that got bullied by the Rangers. I don't think Verbeek wants to retain at all on Gibson so that's why I think he would be willing to give up the picks in order to select a guy he really likes at 10th. Devils probably would send over contracts they want to move on from, maybe like a Nolan Foote?

Devils do not have a lot of openings on their blueline.

Hamilton, Siegenthaler, Marino, Hughes and Nemec are 5 locks. Bahl has been inconsistent, but shown flashes and has 159 NHL games under his belt at 23 years old. He could rebound and hold the #6 slot, though I wouldn't be surprised to see NJ look for another long-term solution at LD beyond Hughes and Siegenthaler. DeSimone played well down the stretch last season and could be a #7, while Hatakka also looked good in limited action and would have to clear waivers if sent down next season. Misyul also may be an option - think the Devils add a vet, but they could go with what they have in-house.

There is no possible deal that would involve Gibson and the #10 pick though. None.

Also, if the Devils wanted to move on from Foote (doubtful), they could just not qualify him as he's an RFA.

 

[sxvnert]

I really hope the Flames are in on this, getting Tij Iginla and one of the D would be huge.

Make a package.

Devils open to trading No. 10 pick in 2024 NHL Draft, looking for goalie | NHL.com

GM hopes to upgrade after New Jersey allowed 3.43 goals per game this season, missed playoffs

www.nhl.com

Could be a #10 for Goalie + lower 2024 1st

#10 for Saros + Preds #22
or
#10 for Markström + Canucks #28

 

[Forge]

As it is, I agree with others in the thread who have said that these are two separate things. The devils are willing to trade the #10 overall pick. The devils are also dead set on acquiring a goalie.

 

[viper0220]

What goalie do the Flames have that's worth 10th overall or anything remotely close to that?

Package would be our only hope.

 

[CanadienShark]

Package would be our only hope.

What's the main piece in the package then?

 

[viper0220]

Trading the #10 overall pick for a 33 and 34 year old who probably can't be counted on for much longer seems like a really bad notion.

If each of those guys bottomed out starting this season, it wouldn't be shocking at all.

I think we have to include someone younger.

What's the main piece in the package then?

Andersson, Vegas pick and Vancouvers pick(don’t all of them of course) I don’t think the Devils would need that because they have a lot of D, hopefully with another team.

 

[dirtydanglez]

as they should be. they need help now

 

[Rorschach]

Hmm assuming that NJ really needs a goaltender that badly, that's a lot of teams I can think of that needs a reasonable 1G including LA, TOR, maybe EDM, etc.

 

[tomd]

John Gibson is probably still close to worthless at 4.5 million dollars. View attachment 879478
We are onto a half decade straight of below average play from gibson

I did predicate the proposal on the big assumption that the devils were interested in Gibson.

 

[CanadienShark]

I think we have to include someone younger.



Andersson, Vegas pick and Vancouvers pick(don’t all of them of course) I don’t think the Devils would need that because they have a lot of D, hopefully with another team.

Definitely wouldn't be all of them. If they could move Hamilton to recoup some value, maybe Andersson would work. I don't think those picks are what they'd want, but of course I don't speak for the Devils.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

I can see the Devils going after Markstrom but I can’t see the Flames winding up with the 10th OA pick.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Thinking about this more, anyone proposing Saros/Ullmark/Markstrom for 10th overall is way out to lunch. I still don't see a goalie fit that'd be worth the pick 10.

For forwards, I'm really starting to wonder about Brady Tkachuk. There's been a lot of smoke around him. There's the Fitzgerald connection. Gotta think NJ could easily offer up a package of 10th+Mercer/Holtz. I just don't know what else would need to be added and how the cap would work

There is no chance Brady is traded this offseason and if he was, it wouldnt be for anything close to your proposed package. Devils probably have the piece to get it done, but he's wearing the C for them like Brady is for Ottawa.

Saros or Ullmark with an extension will probably return something close to the 10th overall. Maybe add a 2nd or something coming from BOS or NSH.