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[Emperoreddy]

rather frolik than beleskey

Well we don't know if the rights are even included. Could still be in on Frolik.

Plus Frolik would be top 6 and beleskey 3rd line (bye Bernier). It all depends on the deals though but we do have the space for it and more money goes off the books next year when Ruutu and Zubs leave.

 

[glenwo2]

I don't think it would hurt Zacha since he should be a regular well before then.

It did hurt Matteau and was a mistake. He needs another year in Albany IMO as he seems to just finally be finding his game.

Also we should move this to the Zacha thread if we want to continue this. Keep this about the Palmieri trade.

Matteau needs another year in Albany? Probably but I think he makes the team this year.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

everything we've heard from him suggests otherwise

there's a difference between going for it and not icing a team that is competing for the 1st overall though.

i think he doesn't want to tank but I don't think any of his moves suggest so far that he's trying to go all-in or anything.

Agree. I think he's trying to improve the team (which I approve of, because I never wanted us to tank), but I don't believe he is trying to get us to a spot where we are competing for the Stanley Cup next year. Perhaps he is aiming for the playoffs, though, and it would be nice if we could get there. Any playoff experience for our young defense would be awesome, and it would be great to see Henrique there again.

 

[kiwidevil]

The big question is. Is he just another 3rd liner?

 

[Emperoreddy]

Matteau needs another year in Albany? Probably but I think he makes the team this year.

He has to make the team. We have no choice. Why it was a mistake because we don't have the option to send him to Albany without waivers.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

The big question is. Is he just another 3rd liner?

On Anaheim he was a third liner most of the time, but I think for the Devils he'd be more than that.

 

[Eric Sachs]

The big question is. Is he just another 3rd liner?

I think he's a 2nd line RW.

Given we have absolutely no depth at RW, great move for us short-term and long-term.

 

[Emperoreddy]

On Anaheim he was a third liner most of the time, but I think for the Devils he'd be more than that.

He has some decent skills and much needed speed. 2nd line on this team for sure.

 

[ghdi]

I think Zacha can step in right away with his size and skating and physicality

Sign Belesky
Sign St Louis

Cammalleri - Zajac - St Louis
Belesky - Henrique - Palmieri
Zacha - Josefson - Elias
Ruutu - Matteau - Tootoo

that would be cool with me for this season. (did I forget anyone?)

This wouldnt happen. Elias doesnt play the right side and they wouldnt ask him to. Something would have to give here. You don't ask a 39 year old lifer of the franchise to switch positions on a whim. If anything, Cammalleri would go to the right side as he has experience playing it. Matteau also isnt a center. You forgot Zubrus (who's going nowhere), the potential of Boucher making the team, and other potential wildcards like Kalinin. not to mention the return of Gomez or Bernier (less likely) and even other UFAs. Shero is not done yet.

It's way too early to even begin to guess line combinations. It's a pointless endeavor.

I dont think Zacha makes the team. I'm perfectly cool with him being here, but its just a lot to ask of the kid at this point. If he comes to training camp and shows he deserves it, great. I'd expect him back in Sarnia next season though. Give him another year of seasoning in North America.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

He has some decent skills and much needed speed. 2nd line on this team for sure.

I think he'll be slotted in as a top six RW to start the season here.

 

[Emperoreddy]

This wouldnt happen. Elias doesnt play the right side and they wouldnt ask him to. Something would have to give here. You don't ask a 39 year old lifer of the franchise to switch positions on a whim. If anything, Cammalleri would go to the right side as he has experience playing it.

You also forgot Zubrus (whose going nowhere), the potential of Boucher making the team, and other potential wildcards like Kalinin not to mention the return of Gomez or Bernier (less likely) and even other UFAs. Shero is not done yet.

It's way too early to even begin to guess line combinations. It's a pointless endeavor.

More likely to be Frolik then St. Louis. I don't know why some are so obsessed with him.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

More likely to be Frolik then St. Louis. I don't know why some are so obsessed with him.

I'd much rather Frolik than St. Louis. Signed to a reasonable deal, Frolik could contribute to the team for years, while St. Louis is a question mark of how much he has in the tank (and I'm not a fan of St. Louis' character, either).

 

[ghdi]

More likely to be Frolik then St. Louis. I don't know why some are so obsessed with him.

Its hardly an obsession. You're looking at it that way because you're so against it for some reason. It's a very realistic move that there's "rumors" about, so naturally people are going to run with it. He lives in Connecticut and if he signed here he would get more ice time than he would elsewhere which would allow him to be shopped at the deadline for a pick. It would be a one year deal at most. If Pittsburgh is interested I think he goes there to Cup chase, but coming here would not be a surprise if staying close to home is important to him. St. Louis would be filling a hole and can be jettisoned at the deadline for an asset. Worst case scenario he blows and is gone next year. I'm not pushing for it, but Im not against him coming in either.

It's far less likely to be Frolik than St. Louis. Frolik is going to get his last longer term big money deal and contenders will chase him. Beleskey at least makes a bit of sense since hes 5 years younger.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I'd much rather Frolik than St. Louis. Signed to a reasonable deal, Frolik could contribute to the team for years, while St. Louis is a question mark of how much he has in the tank (and I'm not a fan of St. Louis' character, either).

With Kyle added. Honestly if Shero can somehow get Frolik and a vet LHD I would call it an offseason and be satisfied depending on how the rest of the draft goes and be satisfied.

Got better at RW, kept all the kids on defense and drafted some high quality talent. Wins in my book.

 

[njdevil26]

Interestingly enough, the Devils have lowered their median age pretty drastically.
Just for craps and slaps, let's say Zacha is a phenom and makes the team. Let's also say that Gomez is re-signed.

Cammalleri (33) - Zajac (30) - Palmieri (24)
Henrique (25) - Zacha (18) - Boucher (21)
Elias (39) - Gomez (35) - Kalinin (24)
Matteau (21) - Josefson (24) - Ruutu (32)

Boucher (21)
Tootoo (32)
Quennville (19)
Blandisi (20)

Greene (32) - Larsson (22)
Merrill (23) - Severson (20)
Helgeson (24) - Gelinas (24)

Hrabarenka (22)
Mozik (22)
Santini (20)
Jacobs (19)

Schneider (29)
Kinkaid (25)

We've been hearing rumors of Frolik, Beleskey, St Louis, and Oshie (to a lesser extent)
I think Shero trades a young D to acquire another offensive weapon. I also think a vet D (Oduya, Martin, Green, Meszaros, Erhoff, Schultz, Franson) Gets signed.

I am all of a sudden happy with the direction this team is headed.


By the way I'm not saying these are the lines... just a way to lay it all out.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

With Kyle added. Honestly if Shero can somehow get Frolik and a vet LHD I would call it an offseason and be satisfied depending on how the rest of the draft goes and be satisfied.

Got better at RW, kept all the kids on defense and drafted some high quality talent. Wins in my book.

That would be about all you could realistically ask of Shero. Hard not to be happy with that.

 

[blink]

I think Zacha can step in right away with his size and skating and physicality

Sign Belesky
Sign St Louis

Cammalleri - Zajac - St Louis
Belesky - Henrique - Palmieri
Zacha - Josefson - Elias
Ruutu - Matteau - Tootoo

that would be cool with me for this season. (did I forget anyone?)

No thanks. Beleskey wants too much money. Also don't want MSL. Aren't we trying to rebuild this team?

I see it like this....

Cammalleri - Zajac - Stafford
(whoever Gelly fetches us) - Henrique - Palmieri
Ruutu - Matthias - Elias
Coleman - Josefson - Tootoo

Boucher doesn't make team, starts year in Albany. Coleman is NHL ready I believe and I think he surprises in camp. Kalinin is another guy who is a late cut and starts in minors. Matteau starts in minors too.

Gelinas gets traded for a winger. We sign Matthias and Stafford. Stafford played with Zajac at UND and they had good chemistry. He's also only 29. Matthias is a decent third line centre.

Still an ugly forward corps but at least it's younger while we wait on our forward prospects to transition.

What LW can we get for Gelly?

 

[blink]

Somehow trade Gelly for Oshie and sign Stafford.

You'd have UND's top line when Oshie-Zajac-Stafford were all there lol

 

[njdevil26]

a big hell-no to Stafford. He has injury problems and has trouble scoring. The last thing the Devils need is another guy that fits those two categories.

 

[ghdi]

Also don't want MSL. Aren't we trying to rebuild this team??

I keep reading this as an excuse against MSL and its just not applicable. If he comes here it's 1 season. He's not going to get a 2 year deal from anyone and probably doesnt want it. We're not going to rebuild in one year and the team isn't going to fill every hole with prospects. Building a roster is a yearly job. I don't care if he's on the team or not, but he'd in no way shape or form slow down a rebuild. He may only be on the team for 6 months anyway.

If we were talking about Brad Richards or Horcoff or Ribeiro, then I can see the argument "aren't we rebuilding".

 

[blink]

a big hell-no to Stafford. He has injury problems and has trouble scoring. The last thing the Devils need is another guy that fits those two categories.

18 goals and 43 points last year isn't bad. Free agency forwards aren't strong this year at all.

Please no to MSL or Semin. I honestly think Stafford is one of the better options out there.

 

[njdevil26]

18 goals and 43 points last year isn't bad. Free agency forwards aren't strong this year at all.

Please no to MSL or Semin. I honestly think Stafford is one of the better options out there.

I would always take Semin if the Canes would retain salary.
I would be a fan of a Gelinas for Louis Eriksson trade.
The bad thing about free agency is that the quality is thin. The Devils will have to overpay for Beleskey and Frolik to compete with other teams that are more attractive and easier sells. A trade is the way to go.

 

[OCSportsfan]

The big question is. Is he just another 3rd liner?

He will be a top 6 player for you. he played top line with Getz and Perry and second line with Kelser and did well. problem was they liked the big body in Maroon on the top line and Silferberg improved so much and took Palmieri's job on the second line. He is not really a third line player, so just like Bobby Ryan there was not a set spot for him.

You will like his game, always a threat to score when he has the puck.

 

[blink]

I would always take Semin if the Canes would retain salary.
I would be a fan of a Gelinas for Louis Eriksson trade.
The bad thing about free agency is that the quality is thin. The Devils will have to overpay for Beleskey and Frolik to compete with other teams that are more attractive and easier sells. A trade is the way to go.

No to Eriksson. He has gotten worse since the Seguin deal.

I can't see Semin here either. Especially with Hynes, Ward and Nasreddine up here now. Semin floats better than the Canadian synchronized swim team.

 

[njdevil26]

No to Eriksson. He has gotten worse since the Seguin deal.

I can't see Semin here either. Especially with Hynes, Ward and Nasreddine up here now. Semin floats better than the Canadian synchronized swim team.

Semin's two way play is underrated. A third line of Elias-Gomez-Semin would be interesting for me. Eriksson still put away 22 goals last season and was responsible defensively.