Confirmed with Link: Devils Acquire John Marino for Ty Smith & a 2023 3rd Round Pick

[Emperoreddy]

Love the trade. But in retrospect if you look at Fitz's Defense moves since he's been brought in they all have been very good.

They all have addressed obvious gaps and seem to have a level of cohesion with the overall D core.

Fitz has done a spectacular job with the defense since he's taken the helm....

I sort of feel sorry for him with goaltending situation because he's tried his damnedest to address the issue but they all keep going the way of Spinal Tap drummers.

It seems obvious to me he say major gaps in how Shero addressed (or more likely not addressed) the blueline and made it a priority to correct it.

 

[Emperoreddy]

hopefully he hits a home run on vanecek and even then all he needs is a double.

Vanecek will be good enough. The gamble where you hop for a home run is Blackwood bouncing back. If not we will still be goalie shopping next offseason.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Love the trade. But in retrospect if you look at Fitz's Defense moves since he's been brought in they all have been very good.

They all have addressed obvious gaps and seem to have a level of cohesion with the overall D core.

Fitz has done a spectacular job with the defense since he's taken the helm....

I sort of feel sorry for him with goaltending situation because he's tried his damnedest to address the issue but they all keep going the way of Spinal Tap drummers.

D group changes under Fitzy so far

In:
Hamilton
Siegenthaler
Graves
Marino
L.Hughes
Nemec
B. Smtih
Mukhammadullin
Casey

Out:
Subban
Greene
Vatanen
Butcher
Ty Smith
Tennyson
Mermis
Claesson
Jacobs
White
Carrick
Mueller


Holy shit

 

[The Wumpus]

Pens fans scratching their heads over all the pre-draft scouting reports agreeing that Smith is an excellent skater. I'm beginning to suspect a lot of them don't even watch the players and just copy each other. One guy called Smith an excellent skater and it makes it's way in to everyone's reports.

Usually when we trade a player I get a little pang of regret that we're moving one of our guys. Haven't felt that yet this summer.

 

[JimEIV]

D group changes under so far Fitzy

In:
Hamilton
Siegenthaler
Graves
Marino
L.Hughes
Nemec
B. Smtih
Mukhammadullin
Casey

Out:
Subban
Greene
Vatanen
Butcher
Ty Smith
Tennyson
Mermis
Claesson
Jacobs
White
Carrick
Mueller


Holy shit

It has been night and day.

 

[Japam]

I was hoping the Devils wouldn't have a good off-season because I didn't want to get my hopes up for the upcoming season like I have the last few years only to be disappointed, but gosh darnit they are having a good off-season.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Not reading the whole thread so if someone beat me to it oh well lol but Ty is gonna need to buy a car or find someone else to bum a ride off of now lol...

 

[njdevil26]

Can I just dream that we send Severson+ to Toronto for Nylander haha

 

[Forge]

Can I just dream that we send Severson+ to Toronto for Nylander haha

I would if only because Toronto fans on hf absolutely hate severson. So I'd be amused

 

[njdevil26]

Pens replaced Marino with Petry

 

[Satans Hockey]

Guess she jinxed it lol...

 

[goonybird]

Ty Smith was so much worse last year than his rookie year I assumed he became an alcoholic

 

[Triumph]

Pens fans scratching their heads over all the pre-draft scouting reports agreeing that Smith is an excellent skater. I'm beginning to suspect a lot of them don't even watch the players and just copy each other. One guy called Smith an excellent skater and it makes it's way in to everyone's reports.

Usually when we trade a player I get a little pang of regret that we're moving one of our guys. Haven't felt that yet this summer.

Smith was an excellent skater, he did not have top-end speed but he was great on his edges and in tight spaces, we saw it in his rookie year. I do not know what happened to him in Year 2 that he lost his mobility, but he never had it to start the season and he didn't finish the season with any.

 

[JimEIV]

Pens fans scratching their heads over all the pre-draft scouting reports agreeing that Smith is an excellent skater. I'm beginning to suspect a lot of them don't even watch the players and just copy each other. One guy called Smith an excellent skater and it makes it's way in to everyone's reports.

Usually when we trade a player I get a little pang of regret that we're moving one of our guys. Haven't felt that yet this summer.

I think that seriously happens...not only that..guys can look very good in Junior when there is a whole lot of space and a lower tear of competition.

I think you don't really see the deficiencies until the player is having to play at max speed and agility every single night....

and then the scout sits down in the bleachers on Wednesday night to watch a Spokane game and every shift Ty skates the puck up the ice virtually unopposed and makes a play...he sees a smaller stature guy carrying the puck up the ice curling just inside the blue line and walking the line...writes down "good speed uses his edge well"... doesn't matter he was unopposed, doesn't matter he never had to face anymore with true NHL speed ..he looked good lugging the puck up ice, his hair even fluttered in the wind

 

[Richer's Ghost]

Ty was hurt and had his sophomore slump. I don't see the need to kick a guy on his way out the door when he leaves such nice things for us in exchange. I think he'll be a good player in a few years.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Ty was hurt and had his sophomore slump. I don't see the need to kick a guy on his way out the door when he leaves such nice things for us in exchange. I think he'll be a good player in a few years.

I like the kid and still think the upside is there.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Player cards

 

[JimEIV]

Smith was an excellent skater, he did not have top-end speed but he was great on his edges and in tight spaces, we saw it in his rookie year. I do not know what happened to him in Year 2 that he lost his mobility, but he never had it to start the season and he didn't finish the season with any.

Nope. Watch him switch directions...his edges suck. He looks like the Titanic turning... especially to his outside. He looks like Frankenstein. That's all edge work not speed

 

[severian]

I think I said the other day I wouldn't be surprised to see Smith traded before the season started, didn't think it'd be so soon though lol. He's just a bit redudnant on our team and his skating being Butcher-esque doesn't help.

I've heard good things about Marino. I remember maybe like a year ago I saw some clips on Twitter showing the subtle plays Marino made throughout a game that were really slick defensively. Excited to see what he can do and gotta wonder what'll happen with Severson now.

Nothing. You start the season and you have him qb one of the pp units. If we stink early, you deal him earlier to maximize his return. If we’re hanging around, you make a decision closer to the deadline.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Nope. Watch him switch directions...his edges suck. He looks like the Titanic turning... especially to his outside. He looks like Frankenstein. That's all edge work not speed

No it’s his quickness and explosiveness. He’s a very technically good skater who turns and hold’s his edges well and has some really nice footwork. He’s just doesn’t have quick enough feet or much explosiveness.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Marino's also the perfect partner for Luke Hughes too, he'll be the RHD version of Siegs.

No it’s his quickness and explosiveness. He’s a very technically good skater who turns and hold’s his edges well and has some really nice footwork. He’s just doesn’t have quick enough feet or much explosiveness.

He's basically Adam Fox without a brain, which is a pretty bad hockey player considering Fox is the most cerebral players in the whole sport.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Marino's also the perfect partner for Luke Hughes too, he'll be the RHD version of Siegs.



He's basically Adam Fox without a brain, which is a pretty bad hockey player considering Fox is the most cerebral players in the whole sport.

Fox has quicker feet

 

[Comparison Ford]

love this move so much. not really wanting to give up on severson yet, but if we do a Severson + Bratt for Tkachuk trade…

in all seriousness, this may be the best our Right side has looked / will look in the last decade at least.

 

[Camille the Eel]

I like the kid and still think the upside is there.

Yeah but Marino is a fine player and much further along in realizing his development.

This deal is a steal. It’s a great deal, the best Fitz has ever made.

Why would the Penguins do this? It’s an insanely poor move by them and they are usually very shrewd.

 

[OmNomNom]

This is a hockey trade. Pens clear cap and get a gamble in a slumped dman, sweetened w a 3rd rd pick. Devils (who have cap) get a solid dman for a few yrs to shore up play. There's no loser here (yet)