Devils 2020-21 team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part XIV

[Nubmer6]

A majority of his mistakes are blown coverages. Doesn’t matter if he has the puck on his stick or not.

Ya, but there were a ton of blown coverages under Hynes. I think either the system was flawed, too complicated for our D to understand, or didn't suit the kind of defensemen we had.

I've always blamed Nas for this, but after seeing us play the last couple games with Nas still behind the bench, maybe it was Hynes dictating the D? I dunno.

 

[Devil X]

Ya, but there were a ton of blown coverages under Hynes. I think either the system was flawed, too complicated for our D to understand, or didn't suit the kind of defensemen we had.

I've always blamed Nas for this, but after seeing us play the last couple games with Nas still behind the bench, maybe it was Hynes dictating the D? I dunno.

Head coach picks and dictates the scheme. D coach has to coach to it. Also keep in mind that Nas always worked with Hynes so beside his time in the NHL as a player he only had one frame of reference for coaching. Im guessing when Ruff came into the building it probably opened up some new coaching ideas for him.

 

[Hisch13r]

Severson reminds me a lot of Gardiner. They're both very very good for the vast majority of the time but their mistakes are costly

 

[Emperoreddy]

That's essentially what Subban is right now as well.

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

He was out of position and puck watching on the Boston no goal right?

But I agree, he was very solid in both games. I meant to say "in the past, he hasn't passed the eye test"...

He was out of position for both boston goals in 1st game. He was a lot better in 2nd game though.

 

[The 29th Pick]

That's essentially what Subban is right now as well.

yeah but PK lost his offense touch, wheres Sevs still puts up the points

 

[njdevils1982]

ive been on record about early starts before…just looking up the schedule and thought this was worth it

games per day of week:

sun

mon

tues

wed no games aka NHLNBC

thr

fri

sat

…..at least in can plan my days accordingly

 

[MadDevil]

It's always easier to spot a mistake than the less obvious positive things a player does. For every defensive mistake Severson makes, how many times does he help exit the zone or help the transition game by making a good pass? One is easy to point to and say "What an idiot", while the other can almost be taken for granted.

Severson's boneheaded plays are frustrating and annoying, but I don't think they're really any different than most defensemen like him. Defensemen who have the puck a lot and are more offensive minded are probably going to turn the puck over or make a poorly timed pinch or lose a coverage more often than a more defensive minded and "safe" defenseman.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

One thing I respected about Kovy was his willingness to get down and dirty with the opposing players.

Have to give a lot of credit to both Jacques Lemaire and Pete DeBoer for the player Kovalchuk became with the Devils.

When he arrived he was offense only and was indifferent in his own end. His last two seasons in New Jersey he was a complete player.

 

[Offseason Champs]

It's always easier to spot a mistake than the less obvious positive things a player does. For every defensive mistake Severson makes, how many times does he help exit the zone or help the transition game by making a good pass? One is easy to point to and say "What an idiot", while the other can almost be taken for granted.

Severson's boneheaded plays are frustrating and annoying, but I don't think they're really any different than most defensemen like him. Defensemen who have the puck a lot and are more offensive minded are probably going to turn the puck over or make a poorly timed pinch or lose a coverage more often than a more defensive minded and "safe" defenseman.

I don't think this fits the narrative of Severson bad, though.

 

[HBK27]

I would claim Dell and waive both Wedgewood and Comrie.

If they both pass, Comrie to AHL to play with Senn. Wedgewood to taxi squad.

If we lose them, no big deal as I think Dell is an upgrade at backup.

I'd claim Dell and waive Comrie, but I wouldn't waive Wedgewood. There's absolutely no need to try to sneak Wedgewood through waivers to get him onto the taxi squad when the Devils can easily just carry 3 goalies this season. Losing Wedgewood would mean that either Senn or Cormier would have to be promoted to the taxi squad, wiping out a season of AHL development for each, and the Devils would still have to scramble to sign a goalie such as Zane McIntyre to play in the AHL or sit on the taxi squad. COVID or COVID protocols could easily wipe out a week or two of Wedgewood's season as could injury. I just don't see the upside in waiving Wedgewood this season even if they do pick up Dell.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

As posted on twitter, this is how I want to see the PP once full healthy.

Work the triangle to the right which should open up the shot or vice versa. Either way Smith gets shots through that can be tipped or screened, Subban tries to beat the goaltender clean (which never works).

 

[Nubmer6]

As posted on twitter, this is how I want to see the PP once full healthy.

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Work the triangle to the right which should open up the shot or vice versa. Either way Smith gets shots through that can be tipped or screened, Subban tries to beat the goaltender clean (which never works).

Ya. I'd consider playing PK as a shooting wing on PP2 if they insist on him on the PP.

 

[OmNomNom]

As posted on twitter, this is how I want to see the PP once full healthy.

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Work the triangle to the right which should open up the shot or vice versa. Either way Smith gets shots through that can be tipped or screened, Subban tries to beat the goaltender clean (which never works).

I'd rather more puck movement w the system, shots from the point are really low percentage working w a static 1-3-1 format

Having Hughes and bratt in their positions does make that easier though, and it does improve odds of low pct passing plays

 

[HischierSeDgewOrk]

I think I'm most excited that when Vatanen comes back we will have 6 NHL caliber D-men for the first time in ages.

Murray Severson
Smith Vatanen
Kulikov Subban

In no particular order.

 

[The 29th Pick]

I think I'm most excited that when Vatanen comes back we will have 6 NHL caliber D-men for the first time in ages.

Murray Severson
Smith Vatanen
Kulikov Subban

In no particular order.

gotta trade Butcher away

 

[HenriquesJawLine]

gotta trade Butcher away

Why in the world would you trade away depth just for the hell of it

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

gotta trade Butcher away

I expect a trade to happen once Vatanen is back up to speed. Maybe for a prospect, it won't be much.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Why in the world would you trade away depth just for the hell of it

It's one thing to have young depth, it's another to have a veteran like Butcher as the #8/#9.

 

[Nubmer6]

I think I'm most excited that when Vatanen comes back we will have 6 NHL caliber D-men for the first time in ages.

Murray Severson
Smith Vatanen
Kulikov Subban

In no particular order.

Honestly, I think Butcher is NHL quality too. He just doesn't fit our style.

 

[Tao Jersey Jones]

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

As posted on twitter, this is how I want to see the PP once full healthy.

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Work the triangle to the right which should open up the shot or vice versa. Either way Smith gets shots through that can be tipped or screened, Subban tries to beat the goaltender clean (which never works).

I like the idea of Bastian’s big body on one of the PP units. He’s a load and has had a couple of nifty passes in tight so far. Should’ve had an assist last game.

 

[The 29th Pick]

Why in the world would you trade away depth just for the hell of it

well lets see, are you gonna pay a slug 3.7 mil a year to watch games from the press box?

 

[Nubmer6]

Shocking.

 

[Blender]

Who didn't see that one coming?