Post-Game Talk: Devil I

[Machinehead]

Maybe move Mikkola up with Trouba? Not sure if that would help or not. Don’t want them to break up the Lindgren - Fox pairing that pairing has been money right now.

I tend to think Trouba is the problem in that pair but who's making it any better? And even if you put Fox with Miller then Trouba is playing with Lindgren which I can't see being better.

There's no coaching your way out of it. We have bad players in too big a role.

 

[McRanger92]

I missed playoff Mas.

Everytime the Rangers win they don't deserve it. When they lose, it's "I told you so."

At least he admitted it was crazy to say lol. Points for self awareness.

 

[Leonardo87]

I tend to think Trouba is the problem in that pair but who's making it any better? And even if you put Fox with Miller then Trouba is playing with Lindgren which I can't see being better.

There's no coaching your way out of it. We have bad players in too big a role.

I know there was a small sample that Miller - Fox was very good, but I just like the Lindgren - Fox pairing. But if it helps balance out our Top 4, then you do it. Depth is part of the key to success, especially in the playoffs.

 

[egelband]

1A, 2SOG, 1BLK, 1TKA

The guy I wanted more from, offensively, was Mika.

I feel like Mika was focused 100% on playing defense. And he was brilliant. I think it’s a smart plan. Focus on the basics and the rest will come naturally.
I actually picked Mika as one of my three stars simply because of his amazing defense. He was skating hard everywhere, throwing the body, getting in passing lanes, good stick. I was impressed. Though of course some offense would be great but I think it’ll come.

 

[Raspewtin]

It is crazy to say this after a 5-1 win but I think they have to be MUCH better to win this series.

I think that win was mostly Igor beating Vanicek, which should continue but maybe not to the same degree, which means other areas will need to pick up the slack.

The team went far too long generating no offense at all. You won’t get two power play goals every night. They got caved at 5v5, which I know is kind of their thing, but it can’t be THAT bad going forward or they are going to get caved on the scoreboard.



Well the offense appeared to die on his stick a number of times even if it was not official turnovers. And you’d like to see him creating some offense more than just passing around the edges on the power play.

they were certainly outplayed at 5 on 5 but i would heavily dispute that they were “caved”. the high ranger chances favored the rangers when adjusted for score, XGF% was very close too. I think expecting the Rangers to consistently outplay the Devils is a bit foolish, they’re a better team than we are and we need to exploit the few legs up we do have, and we did.

for a team that should’ve absolutely been flying high the Devils took a long time to get going, and even then generated very little. The Rangers were top notch in their own zone which is good since they were in it quite a bit. Their game got away from them in the second period but it’s bound to happen.

 

[egelband]

Patrick Kane is going to make some big big plays during this run. Zero doubt in my mind.

Not his best night but thought he got better in the second half of it.

Chytil by the way quietly had a great night.

Again only weakness really is Schneider. They have to probably cut down on his ice time. 17 mins way to much but that was indicative of the score more than anything. Everyone should be pretty fresh for game 2. Nobody played heavy mins or got touched by the devils. That was as easy a win as we’ve had all year.

Yes. I thought he was good in the third. I’m hoping it was him getting his sea legs back after whatever treatment he received.

 

[Machinehead]

I know there was a small sample that Miller - Fox was very good, but I just like the Lindgren - Fox pairing. But if it helps balance out our Top 4, then you do it. Depth is part of the key to success, especially in the playoffs.

At some point, you have to try something else if it continues. I just don't think we'll have enough pairs to do all the hiding we need.

As much as I bag on Schneider, you can hide Schneider, and put him with the reliable Mikkola.

Where are you putting Trouba? And if you hide Trouba in Schneider's spot, where are you putting Schneider?

Trouba has had years where he was a lot better than this, and it would be ideal if he found that.

Maybe he and Miller just aren't any good and they could each carry a different pair.

 

[will1066]

Watched a great movie last night. It was called

The Devils Were Nada

*rimshot*

 

[McRanger92]

I tend to think Trouba is the problem in that pair but who's making it any better? And even if you put Fox with Miller then Trouba is playing with Lindgren which I can't see being better.

There's no coaching your way out of it. We have bad players in too big a role.

Pretty sure Trouba was playing with a broken stick all game honestly. He couldnt handle a puck until the 3rd when he tried a dump in and his stick exploded.

Miller has not had his head in the game since the spitting incident. He's been getting by on talent because he's still an eraser in transition D, but his decisions with the puck have been bad for a pretty good stretch.

 

[turcotte8]

Watched a great movie last night. It was called

The Devils Were Nada

*rimshot*

reported

 

[blue425]

they were certainly outplayed at 5 on 5 but i would heavily dispute that they were “caved”. the high ranger chances favored the rangers when adjusted for score, XGF% was very close too. I think expecting the Rangers to consistently outplay the Devils is a bit foolish, they’re a better team than we are and we need to exploit the few legs up we do have, and we did.

for a team that should’ve absolutely been flying high the Devils took a long time to get going, and even then generated very little. The Rangers were top notch in their own zone which is good since they were in it quite a bit. Their game got away from them in the second period but it’s bound to happen.

Agree. That was a really good road game. A little undisciplined, but the PK covered for that. Got an early lead, weathered the storm, and took advantage of their opportunities.

Devils will come out flying tomorrow, their playoff lives depend on it. If they go down 2-0 I don't see them winning four out of five, not against this Ranger team.

 

[Mac n Gs]

they were certainly outplayed at 5 on 5 but i would heavily dispute that they were “caved”. the high ranger chances favored the rangers when adjusted for score, XGF% was very close too. I think expecting the Rangers to consistently outplay the Devils is a bit foolish, they’re a better team than we are and we need to exploit the few legs up we do have, and we did.

for a team that should’ve absolutely been flying high the Devils took a long time to get going, and even then generated very little. The Rangers were top notch in their own zone which is good since they were in it quite a bit. Their game got away from them in the second period but it’s bound to happen.

They made some really smart tactical adjustments to negate the Devils ability to generate speed from their d zone and attack off the rush, and the stark differences between the first and second period showed when it was working vs. not.

When they were able to get the puck down low below the goal line and keep their third guy high, it helped them keep more sustained pressure and maintain possession on longer shifts. When that third F crept lower a bit, it was easier for Jersey to keep one of their guys higher in the zone to get 3-on-2s off the rush. The third and fourth lines were the best at maintaining this style of play, and the Vesey pass to Motte that Vanecek made the great save on was the perfect execution of what they needed to do. If they just stay above the Devils on the puck, I trust their size and speed to win out in those puck battles down low. Tarasenko was low-key great yesterday at that too

 

[Leonardo87]

Watched a great movie last night. It was called

The Devils Were Nada

*rimshot*

 

[Anthony5967]

Anybody remember the play, I wish I remembered the period, where Hughes came in towards the left circle and had the angle and Trouba came across and Hughes peeled off a bit, allowing Panarin to pick his pocket?

 

[Larrybiv]

OK. Looks like I'll be drinking 8 Miller High Lifes every other night for the next little whiel.

LGR

better make it 7. while is nspelled w....h....i....l....e

 

[The Gloaming]

Do people expect the Rangers to skate circles around every team in the league for 60 straight minutes? Because no team ever in the history of pro hockey does that. They mostly kept the Devils to the outside whenever they had the puck, clogged the NZ and the slot...that was a very good defensive performance.

 

[Larrybiv]

Kane with a decayed hip still collected an assist lol

For my eyes, he was easily the slowest player out there, and literally just a body with a reputation. Reminds me of Hodge and Esposito in their last year.

 

[will1066]

Chytil 2 points
Kakko an assist
Laf had a goal*

*goal was waved off

 

[MrAlmost]

Well that answers the questions I had. They are just a low energy team. Low energy teams win sometimes, but would rather have more pep in the step. I guess it ain't gonna happen. I just don't know how long this will last.

Kane is bad. If he really wanted to help the team going forward he would take himself off PP1 and get Tank in that spot.

Devils are going to keep pushing. Probably even harder than in the second. I still think the Rangers just don't play the right way. They are far too arrogant and refuse to get the puck behind their opponent.

To not be all negative, cause we did just win, this team reminds me of the Ducks Cup team. Calm, opportunistic and difficult to get quality chances on. That Ducks team would let teams punch themselves out, look like they were losing the game, but would be winning 4 to 1. Haha

 

[chosen]

It is crazy to say this after a 5-1 win but I think they have to be MUCH better to win this series.

I think that win was mostly Igor beating Vanicek, which should continue but maybe not to the same degree, which means other areas will need to pick up the slack.

The team went far too long generating no offense at all. You won’t get two power play goals every night. They got caved at 5v5, which I know is kind of their thing, but it can’t be THAT bad going forward or they are going to get caved on the scoreboard.



Well the offense appeared to die on his stick a number of times even if it was not official turnovers. And you’d like to see him creating some offense more than just passing around the edges on the power play.

You are correct.

It is crazy.

Tough timrs for Bloody Nines Of Alburquerque.

 

[Machinehead]

Stepped away for a bit to go make dosa batter. Coming back with a little bit more space and having reflected on the game some more, it's just unreal how much Adam Fox dominated that game.

He had 4 assists, which is amazing and stupid on a bad day, but it's not like he just had 4 assists.

He had 4 assists while being a massive plus defensively. He contained Hughes, and Hischier attempted like 2 shots all night with Fox on the ice.

That's what people who don't watch the Rangers don't quite grasp about Fox. He's the only player in the world that has the defensive role he does and scores at the level he does at the same time.

I've said it many times before, it's under-the-radar how little most stars actually care about defense, especially in this day and age.

Zibanejad, to his credit, plays a lot of defense. Mika is a massive matchup center. Gallant uses him to do everything hard. But if you look at the defensive metrics, Zibanejad survives his matchups (and there's something to be said for that); Fox dominates his matchups.

I don't know if Fox is the 2nd best player in the league, and frankly, I'm not interested, but I definitely think he's the 2nd most unique player in the league (McDavid on both counts).

 

[McRanger92]

Random thought watching some of the highlights. Severson is such a loser. Throwing cheapshots when Goodrow is down on the ice then skates away after he gets challenged. Longest tenured Devil didnt want to break a nail firing his team up when they are down 3-0 getting worked over by their biggest rival. Losing player, always has been. If I were a Debbies fan I'd be pissed.

 

[The Gloaming]

He had 4 assists, which is amazing and stupid on a bad day, but it's not like he just had 4 assists.

He had 4 assists while being a massive plus defensively. He contained Hughes, and Hischier attempted like 2 shots all night with Fox on the ice.

That's what people who don't watch the Rangers don't quite grasp about Fox. He's the only player in the world that has the defensive role he does and scores at the level he does at the same time.

I've said it many times before, it's under-the-radar how little most stars actually care about defense, especially in this day and age.

Zibanejad, to his credit, plays a lot of defense. Mika is a massive matchup center. Gallant uses him to do everything hard. But if you look at the defensive metrics, Zibanejad survives his matchups (and there's something to be said for that); Fox dominates his matchups.

I don't know if Fox is the 2nd best player in the league, and frankly, I'm not interested, but I definitely think he's the 2nd most unique player in the league (McDavid on both counts).

Is it unique in how the Rangers deploy their #1D and #1C vs how other teams do it? I feel like there are very few players getting top ES time against the best competition, #1PP AND #1PK unit. We really lean on those 2 to do everything for us.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

The Rangers tonight looked like a team that was tired of the constant knob swallowing of the Devils by some media and fans. They looked focused and determined. The Rangers are very good. I still think this series is going at least 6 but I don't see the Devils beating the Rangers 4 times. Just don't see it. People forget how resilient and mentally tough the Rangers are when the games really matter, not to mention the obvious talent and skill. They are going to be a tough out for any team.

Coming into the playoffs, the one team that scared me for sure and still do are the Bruins.

 

[The Gloaming]

Coming into the playoffs, the one team that scared me for sure and still do are the Bruins.

That team is f***ing stacked. Legitimately stacked. By far the scariest team in the playoffs.