Contract Termination: [DET] Red Wings terminate contract of F Filip Zadina

[madhi19]

VAN fans really the only ones who can laugh here.

MTL reached for KK. Then didn't match him. Then used that pick to take a guy with some personal issues who openly said don't draft me.

OTT didn't take Zadina, but still took a consensus Top 4 player at number 4, so nothing risked there.

AZ reached hard for Hayton because the OG Stat Boy (Chayka) loved his metrics.

DET was pegged to take Hughes and had what they perceived as a consensus Top 4 fall in their laps.

It's VAN that gets to laugh for Hughes suddenly being hot-potatoed to them.

You're thinking of two different draft for the Habs.

 

[Seider and Donuts]

They would send one or two plus draft pick the other way.

You can safely assume Larkin, Raymond, and any of the new signees aren't a part of that trade. Perron has little value in a trade like that and Ottawa really has no need for Copp.

That essentially leaves Fabbri, Rasmussen, Berggren, Kubalik, and Veleno. I seriously doubt OTT puts much value in Kubalik or Veleno. Fabbri, while useful, is made of glass, and IMO Detroit shouldn't be moving Rasmussen or Berggren.

So that's pretty much a no go.

Not to mention Detroit's 1st next year has a decent shot of being 8-12. Boston's is a total crapshoot, which is why I don't see Detroit trading it until there's a clear idea of where Boston falls in the standings.

Fortunately, Arizona wasn't all over Zadina when they passed up on him, and picked Hayton at #5, right before the Wings' #6 pick.

This is a weird brag considering Hayton was universally considered a reach and both teams passed on Hughes.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Sure we did.

I know. I didn’t need confirmation.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Surely will get lost in the shuffle. And could’ve been stated before but.

I truly believe Yzerman likes and didn’t want to waive Zadina. He asked for a trade couldn’t get a match. So was put on waivers to accommodate his request. He stated his best case scenario is he clears waivers. Goes to training camp and makes the teams and contributes.

Hell get alot of shit. understandably so because to this point has not been close to performing to his draft position

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[Seider and Donuts]

I know. I didn’t need confirmation.

Yes. Ignorant people generally don't divert from their ignorant opinions.

Just a heads up: You can acknowledge that the contracts signed were bad and still accept that they're additions that improve the team.

Considering Detroit is gonna be flooding the team with ELCs over the next 5 years, I couldn't give a shit that JT Compher will be making $5.1M over that time.

 

[ShelbyZ]

I don't even understand it then. Although I am not sure they buy out amount. But why spread the cost out for twice as long when you can bury well over half the cap in the AHL. There is no point buying out a player with that low of cap unless you are a budget team and want to save real cash. I don't think that's detroit.

Now that we know he actually asked to be traded, the Wings will probably want to clear him out and not have him sulking in front their young guys in GR for another season waiting for his contract to end. And that's if he doesn't make some kind of strides next year to either get himself moved or increase his value.

 

[Whaddagoal]

He's a very well rounded player, honestly.

The problem is he can't score for shit, so he's essentially just out there to play somewhat responsible hockey while the guys who actually can score get a breather.

Sounds a bit like Jacob Josefson from years ago on NJD. Pretty much exactly that.

 

[Seider and Donuts]

Maybe it's just personal reasons...

... But it's kinda funny that the team gave him the opportunity to play on the PP and play 5 on 5 with Larkin, he didn't do anything with it, and now wants to be traded somewhere else.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Sometimes all you need is a fresh start.

I remember reading through here though and a lot of people seemed to say he just doesn't have the IQ to be an effective offensive player.

 

[Tom Polakis]

You can safely assume Larkin, Raymond, and any of the new signees aren't a part of that trade. Perron has little value in a trade like that and Ottawa really has no need for Copp.

That essentially leaves Fabbri, Rasmussen, Berggren, Kubalik, and Veleno. I seriously doubt OTT puts much value in Kubalik or Veleno. Fabbri, while useful, is made of glass, and IMO Detroit shouldn't be moving Rasmussen or Berggren.

So that's pretty much a no go.

Not to mention Detroit's 1st next year has a decent shot of being 8-12. Boston's is a total crapshoot, which is why I don't see Detroit trading it until there's a clear idea of where Boston falls in the standings.

And then to my post:
This is a weird brag considering Hayton was universally considered a reach and both teams passed on Hughes.

I don't "brag" about my shitty team. I am relieved that we picked Hayton ahead of Zadina now (and I was pissed at the time). Hayton showed a lot of promise last season. You never know how things are going to work out.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Yes. Ignorant people generally don't divert from their ignorant opinions.

Just a heads up: You can acknowledge that the contracts signed were bad and still accept that they're additions that improve the team.

Considering Detroit is gonna be flooding the team with ELCs over the next 5 years, I couldn't give a shit that JT Compher will be making $5.1M over that time.

If you think Justin Holl improves your team. Might I suggest trading for Marc Staal? They’re pretty similar lmao. Don’t be so in your feelings. Teams rebuild. You might have another one on your hands without even getting out of the first one but I’m a florida fan. I understand.

 

[StreetHawk]

This Van fan isn’t laughing. I’m considering us incredibly lucky Det took him instead of Hughes because we def would have Zadina otherwise. The Benning years were dark enough, Detroit saved us on this one.

I think the Canucks were eying one of the other Dmen. Be it Bouchard, Boqvist, or Dobson. I had hoped for Dobson because his skating was a lot better than Bouchard and for a guy that you hope to play 25 minutes a game, being a better skating will allow them to play more minutes as it's not as much effort to get around the ice and thus they last longer.
But, Benning being Benning probably picks the wrong guy.

This also emphasizes that the Wings will take longer to turn it around as Yzerman isn't keeping any of Holland's draft picks. Be lucky to have anyone not named Larkin on the roster by the time the Wings make the playoffs again.

 

[Stringer Bell]

Does anyone have a list of all Yzermans first round pics since being a Tampa Detroit GM? I feel like most have been busts or let downs.

 

[Seider and Donuts]

If you think Justin Holl improves your team. Might I suggest trading for Marc Staal? They’re pretty similar lmao. Don’t be so in your feelings. Teams rebuild. You might have another one on your hands without even getting out of the first one but I’m a florida fan. I understand.

I think Justin Holl is a hell of a lot better than Gustav Lindstrom and then random AHLer X when Lindstrom gets hurt sooooo, would you like to try that again?

Does anyone have a list of all Yzermans first round pics since being a Tampa Detroit GM? I feel like most have been busts or let downs.

When you realize Filip Zadina was not an Yzerman pick.

... I feel like this post was a bust and a let down.

 

[Tom Polakis]

I think Justin Holl is a hell of a lot better than Gustav Lindstrom and then random AHLer X when Lindstrom gets hurt sooooo, would you like to try that again?


When you realize Filip Zadina was not an Yzerman pick.

... I feel like this post was a bust and a let down.

Jesus, dude. Settle the f*** down. It's just a sport we like watching. Is every one of your 170 odd posts this angry?

 

[Brent Burns]

Come on SJ

 

[Seider and Donuts]

Jesus, dude. Settle the f*** down. It's just a sport we like watching. Is every one of your 170 odd posts this angry?

There's not really any anger about it, you're the one cussing bud.

 

[Hostile Offer]

VAN fans really the only ones who can laugh here.

MTL reached for KK. Then didn't match him. Then used that pick to take a guy with some personal issues who openly said don't draft me.

OTT didn't take Zadina, but still took a consensus Top 4 player at number 4, so nothing risked there.

AZ reached hard for Hayton because the OG Stat Boy (Chayka) loved his metrics.

DET was pegged to take Hughes and had what they perceived as a consensus Top 4 fall in their laps.

It's VAN that gets to laugh for Hughes suddenly being hot-potatoed to them.

I recall HF losing their minds when the Sens took Tkachuk instead of Zadina. I don't know what made Zadina suddenly drop but he was a clear cut favourite for 3rd overall for most of that year and boy did he bust hard. KK and Hayton weren't slam dunks either but both are at least impactful NHL players. I don't know what Zadina has to do with Logan Mailloux, though.

 

[Seider and Donuts]

I recall HF losing their minds when the Sens took Tkachuk instead of Zadina. I don't know what made Zadina suddenly drop but he was a clear cut favourite for 3rd overall for most of that year and boy did he bust hard. KK and Hayton weren't slam dunks either but both are at least impactful NHL players. I don't know what Zadina has to do with Logan Mailloux, though.

I mean there's always a handful of people chirping, but I highly doubt the Tkachuk pick was scrutinized over Zadina nearly as much as KK or Hayton.

I can't "blame" OTT at all for that one. Brady is a rare breed that every team wants and few have, same as his brother.

My bad on the Mailloux reference. I thought that was the pick they got from Carolina.

 

[Stringer Bell]

I think Justin Holl is a hell of a lot better than Gustav Lindstrom and then random AHLer X when Lindstrom gets hurt sooooo, would you like to try that again?


When you realize Filip Zadina was not an Yzerman pick.

... I feel like this post was a bust and a let down.

Yeah my post was definitely a bust. I won’t deny it.

 

[StreetHawk]

I recall HF losing their minds when the Sens took Tkachuk instead of Zadina. I don't know what made Zadina suddenly drop but he was a clear cut favourite for 3rd overall for most of that year and boy did he bust hard. KK and Hayton weren't slam dunks either but both are at least impactful NHL players. I don't know what Zadina has to do with Logan Mailloux, though.

Montreal dealt that first from Carolina to Arizona as part of the Dvorak trade. So, that poster got it mixed up what became of the Carolina first rounder.

That was supposed to be a draft similar to the 2012 which was Dman heavy in the top 10. Dahlin went #1 as expected, but then Montreal, AZ and Det passed on Q. Hughes. Dobson went after Kravstov as well.

 

[Seider and Donuts]

Yeah my post was definitely a bust. I won’t deny it.

Fair enough haha. His early years in Tampa were pretty rough for drafting, but he hasn't been bad outside that.

Little early to judge Kasper, who I think is doing well. Way too early to judge Danielson and ASP. But Seider is obviously Seider. Raymond is currently 2nd in 2020 draftee production. Edvinsson looks like a stud and Cossa is developing well, too. (But with goalies, who really knows?)

 

[mr4tno]

Probably not nearly as many as his name and draft position would suggest.

This would require 31 pro scouting groups and GMs to think Zadina is even worth the time let alone contract and roster spot. There’s little actual evidence to suggest he is. If his name were Phil Brown and he was a 4th rounder back in the day, would anybody care?

As a fourth round plug - the Flyers say absolutely!

 

[Reality Check]

Colorado should sign him to hang out with Jonathan Drouin.

Every team in the league gonna put in a claim lol

Went from "this guy is a bum" to "every team in the league will want this guy".

Vintage HFBoards.