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Contract Termination: [DET] Red Wings terminate contract of F Filip Zadina

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It's official. I remember being shocked by these picks but Kotkaniemi, B.Tkachuk, and Hayton were all better picks than Zadina.

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Winners and losers of the 2018 NHL draft weekend

While 217 prospects found new homes, the weekend also had trades, free-agent decisions and lots of chatter. Here's who came out ahead -- and behind.
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Winner: Red Wings​

Filip Zadina might be the surest scorer in this draft, and somehow -- miraculously -- he fell in the Red Wings' lap at No. 6 overall. This is a winger who can play as soon as this season, even in a top-six role.

The Red Wings then capitalized on another draft faller, when center Joseph Veleno was available at No. 30.
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Forgot Veleno was also that class, another guy that dropped way further than expected, and didn't take off although he's roughly returned the value you expect with a 30th overall pick so far.
 
HogtownSabresfan said:
Apologies, 2019 would have been his first draft. He would still have some ownership for the kid's development, but if you're a dud, often you're just a dud. Zadina doesn't look overly rushed to the NHL. Maybe another AHL year helps.

I'm still mostly unimpressed with Yzerman, but this guy clearly shouldn't be a big part of any analysis since he did not pick him.

Of course, the incoming guy has to make some quick judgements of kids in the system and trade the bad picks. In 2019, clearly, Yzerman could have traded this guy and didn't. He owns that.
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... Do you think anybody knows within a year of drafting whether a top 10 pick is a bust or just had a bad year?

Top 10 picks rarely get traded within their first 3 years even if they're going downhill. Mainly because you're not going to get anywhere near Top 10 pick value back out of them, so you're farther ahead hoping they work out the kinks and are a late bloomer.

Same story is currently playing out with Lafreniere in NYR.
 
HogtownSabresfan said:
Apologies, 2019 would have been his first draft. He would still have some ownership for the kid's development, but if you're a dud, often you're just a dud. Zadina doesn't look overly rushed to the NHL. Maybe another AHL year helps.

I'm still mostly unimpressed with Yzerman, but this guy clearly shouldn't be a big part of any analysis since he did not pick him.

Of course, the incoming guy has to make some quick judgements of kids in the system and trade the bad picks. In 2019, clearly, Yzerman could have traded this guy and didn't. He owns that.
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Honestly, it's going to take longer than Pre Detroit return Yzerman fans expected. Barring his RW scouting staff finding a Kucherov, Point, Cirelli in the 2-3 rounds of the draft like they did for him in TB, he's basically starting from scratch in Detroit. Those 3 prior seasons where the Holland Wings missed the PO from 2017-2019 seasons, there's virtually nothing that will be on the Wing's roster when they finally do return to the PO. It's going to be Larkin and maybe 1 or 2 other guys at most.

At some point in 2024 or 2025 off-season, I do expect Yzerman has to pull off a big trade to get 1 or 2 higher end players. I doubt he can just sit and just wait and hope that all of the prospects develop. After 5/6 seasons at the helm and 6/7 drafts under his belt by then, that should be expected that the Wings get back into the PO under his watch.
 
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I don’t get the Yzerman hate. He walked into the Wings with little in the prospect Cupboard and less in the NHL. Now is first year of draft picks are just turning 22 and people are baffled that he hasnt won a Cup yet?

Did the Wings have maybe 5 useful assets in the last 10 years of Holland drafting when Yzerman started? Expansion teams get way more to work with than Yzerman did.
 
canuckster19 said:
Welcome to HF, now that Benning is no longer an NHL GM, someone has to become the new clown in town.
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Don't think there will ever be another Benning. Truly one of a kind.

TS Quint said:
I don’t get the Yzerman hate. He walked into the Wings with little in the prospect Cupboard and less in the NHL. Now is first year of draft picks are just turning 22 and people are baffled that he hasnt won a Cup yet?

Did the Wings have maybe 5 useful assets in the last 10 years of Holland drafting when Yzerman started? Expansion teams get way more to work with than Yzerman did.
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Pretty terrible luck with the joke of a lottery too
 
StreetHawk said:
Honestly, it's going to take longer than Pre Detroit return Yzerman fans expected. Barring his RW scouting staff finding a Kucherov, Point, Cirelli in the 2-3 rounds of the draft like they did for him in TB, he's basically starting from scratch in Detroit. Those 3 prior seasons where the Holland Wings missed the PO from 2017-2019 seasons, there's virtually nothing that will be on the Wing's roster when they finally do return to the PO. It's going to be Larkin and maybe 1 or 2 other guys at most.

At some point in 2024 or 2025 off-season, I do expect Yzerman has to pull off a big trade to get 1 or 2 higher end players. I doubt he can just sit and just wait and hope that all of the prospects develop. After 5/6 seasons at the helm and 6/7 drafts under his belt by then, that should be expected that the Wings get back into the PO under his watch.
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People oddly expected that the shit show Holland left Detroit in could be worked out in a matter of three years.

Now the same people with those unrealistic expectations want us to make moves like trading for EK65 because that somehow helps us.
 
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WolvesAndWings said:
Ah, I get it now. You've never actually watched him play before. That explains everything.

As I'm starting to get the sense that you're a new hockey fan, let me educate you a bit. Zadina has actively gotten worse over the past 4 years. In fact "Zadina" and "potential" is loosely speaking, an oxymoron.

"Not like he's unplayable"

He actually kind of is unplayable for anyone who is even remotely trying to get better. Maybe Chicago has a spot for him because otherwise he's an AHLer.
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Play him at his natural position for 30-40-82 games with some linemates that aren't plumbers
 
NyQuil said:
There's a blow to the old ego. Maybe it will be motivational.
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Filip Zadina's ego:

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Canucks LB said:
I am floored at him clearing, wtf?
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My guess is it's a combination of the compressed cap (Teams with cap still have players they can sign and also want to capitalize on teams that don't have cap) and the backloaded structuring. (Still owed $4.5M despite a $1.8M cap hit)

... And the fact that he hasn't done shit offensively in at least two years.
 
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TS Quint said:
I don’t get the Yzerman hate. He walked into the Wings with little in the prospect Cupboard and less in the NHL. Now is first year of draft picks are just turning 22 and people are baffled that he hasnt won a Cup yet?

Did the Wings have maybe 5 useful assets in the last 10 years of Holland drafting when Yzerman started? Expansion teams get way more to work with than Yzerman did.
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He hasn't meaningfully changed the direction of the team. Part of it is bad lottery luck, but Yzerman's response to that was to sign a bunch of mid UFAs and basically lock-in a mediocre team for the medium-term.
 
Seider and Donuts said:
My guess is it's a combination of the compressed cap (Teams with cap still have players they can sign and also want to capitalize on teams that don't have cap) and the backloaded structuring. (Still owed $4.5M despite a $1.8M cap hit)

... And the fact that he hasn't done shit offensively in at least two years.
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Still, he is young with a high drafting pedigree, stunning
 
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I would have thought he'd be claimed just bc his buyout fee is so low, less than 400k this upcoming season and in years 3 and 4. With even the 2nd year being -525k.
 
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Another thing Zadina was a late B-day and had been in NAmerica 1 year before he got play in the AHL which are killers of Offensive talent...Defense and Goaltenders not so much. Zadina also ran into the new boss and wasn't a SYzerman pick. That and expecting him to contribute more on the 4th line where Defense is key!Shut Down or be the Energy guys running around. If you draft Offensively skills guy you work on that in the development stage of his career!And leave Zadina at his Natural position(RW),its hard being a Star at one position and then being asked to make the Switch and replicate your "Stardom"!
 
Flukeshot said:
I would have thought he'd be claimed just bc his buyout fee is so low, less than 400k this upcoming season and in years 3 and 4. With even the 2nd year being -525k.
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Yeah but if you claim him and want to see what he’s got and flops, wouldn’t the buyout window be closed? And you’d be stuck with him for a while?
 
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Oddbob said:
Was always hoping he would get on a hot streak to see if it boosted his confidence, but unfortunately didn't happen thus far.
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That is the problem, you always think he is on the cusp of doing it and it never ever comes.
 
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