Despite major challanges, Kyle Dubas has passed the tests

[Gabriel426]

Except he's never won a cup and actually had his C taken away from him in San Jose....he even stayed in San Jose after having it stripped. And ...he broke the record for most games played. Either he Bruce Willis from Unbreakable or he's not sacrificing enough. He actually finally left San Jose....but only when much more money came calling. Pretty sure he has all his teeth too.

This is a guy you want leading your crop of your players?

Marleau was a case of Saskatoon Babs pushing the Swift Current guy.

I think the team was set back by having him personally.

At that time, I really thought they were trading JVR after the Marleau signing. Although I still think Marleau was signed a year too long. But the fact that Lou didnt even bother trading one of Bozak, Leo and JVR that summer(with a year before they hit UFA) was a huge set back in the rebuild. Lou should had traded at least one if not two of the three and collect picks. Then again, looking at Hunter picks those years, I think those picks will be amount to nothing at the end.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I’m 100% certain that Dubas was one of those doubters. In fact the only doubter that mattered as he had the power to trade him. It was about Dubas.

I am 100% certain it was not about Dubas. In fact, If I were to speculate on any group, it would be the racists in St Louis this playoffs.

 

[Antropovsky]

Marleau had little effect on the team either way .

Handing 11m and the C to a loser like Tavares is what's killing our window .

Cost us Jarvis who had 40 in 68.

Marleau and Tavares are similar temperments and shouldn't have a captaincy. Two mistakes.

At that time, I really thought they were trading JVR after the Marleau signing. Although I still think Marleau was signed a year too long. But the fact that Lou didnt even bother trading one of Bozak, Leo and JVR that summer(with a year before they hit UFA) was a huge set back in the rebuild. Lou should had traded at least one if not two of the three and collect picks. Then again, looking at Hunter picks those years, I think those picks will be amount to nothing at the end.

Add Hyman to that list..... Leafs have just bled assets and have no series wins to show for it. So keeping the players paid no dividends.

 

[hotpaws]

Cost us Jarvis who had 40 in 68.

Marleau and Tavares are similar temperments and shouldn't have a captaincy. Two mistakes.

Dubas cost us Jarvis due to his incompetence . Teams know he's weak so they see how far they can push him and Dubie just caves . Lou wasn't perfect but there's no way he would have had to pay a 1st to dump Marleau or would have had Marleau dictate to him how he departed .

 

[Gabriel426]

Cost us Jarvis who had 40 in 68.

Marleau and Tavares are similar temperments and shouldn't have a captaincy. Two mistakes.


Add Hyman to that list..... Leafs have just bled assets and have no series wins to show for it. So keeping the players paid no dividends.

I would not add Hyman to that list since they were competing in the North Division and Leafs was always favor to win the division and advance to the ECF.

But at the time of the Marleau's signing, the Leafs was stacked on wingers.
Hyman-AM-Willie
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Leo-Kadri-Brown
Leivo-Goat-Kap
with AJ coming up.

Thats a lineup without JVR. Thats why I am still puzzled why JVR or Leo was not traded that summer after signing Marleau.

Dubas cost us Jarvis due to his incompetence . Teams know he's weak so they see how far they can push him and Dubie just caves . Lou wasn't perfect but there's no way he would have had to pay a 1st to dump Marleau or would have had Marleau dictate to him how he departed .

Lou would had just put Marleau on the Island.

 

[Antropovsky]

I would not add Hyman to that list since they were competing in the North Division and Leafs was always favor to win the division and advance to the ECF.

But at the time of the Marleau's signing, the Leafs was stacked on wingers.
Hyman-AM-Willie
Marleau-Bozak-Marner
Leo-Kadri-Brown
Leivo-Goat-Kap
with AJ coming up.

Thats a lineup without JVR. Thats why I am still puzzled why JVR or Leo was not traded that summer after signing Marleau.


Lou would had just put Marleau on the Island.

Lou loves players like Komarov.... he wasn't going anywhere no matter what.

 

[Leaf Fans]

yup but your odds of winning lotto max are higher than getting Dubies peeps to admit it , lol

Kadri could have said ''f*** you Kyle Dubas for not believing in me" and his followers would be on here saying it was directed at a different Kyle Dubas and not the Leaf GM .

No, they wouldn't.

 

[diceman934]

I am not exactly sure why anyone thinks this has anything to do with giving an FU to the Leafs or Dubas.

It took him until his contract year, and two years of doing things which were the direct reason for the Leafs moving him in the first place, to finally get it right.

If anything, our fans should stop trying to constantly trade our star players for non-star players, because Kadri was less of a star player than any of our current star players, and did a lot more things which warranted moving him than any of our current star players, and we got a strong return for him (something we would not have got based on his two prior seasons with Colorado), and people are still whining about it.

No coincidence that there there is a strong overlap between the whining and the impatience too.

As usual your wrong
Kadri was a star player
Every time he playes with skill players his points go up. He played with hot garbage many times in Toronto. He played behind Bozak on the Leafs which is a big joke. He out produced him despite of his line mates the man has proven himself to be a star.
He was mistreated by the Leafs from day one. Then rather getting some players to take the role as a defender of his team mates they left it on him.
The return was horrible a liability soft D man who was a free agent and a winger who was also soft for a 30 goal scorer who played for keeps.
He has been done dirty by the league with suspends for plays that others have been giving nothing.

Nylander has been a player who has had everything given to him despite not earning it and he is still here.
We trade away good players all the time, Brown we could have used the last two playoff years over Nylander and we likely would have won.
Dufus is an idiot. Stop defending the fake glasses man.

 

[notbias]

Dubas cost us Jarvis due to his incompetence . Teams know he's weak so they see how far they can push him and Dubie just caves . Lou wasn't perfect but there's no way he would have had to pay a 1st to dump Marleau or would have had Marleau dictate to him how he departed .

This whole thread is just people writing fan fiction and pretending it is fact, then the 5 other miserable people people come in, like a post, pretend it is fact too, and defend it.

 

[RoadWarrior]

I am 100% certain it was not about Dubas. In fact, If I were to speculate on any group, it would be the racists in St Louis this playoffs.

It was probably both. But you keep up that denial.

 

[diceman934]

Last thing it was directed at the Leafs organization period. He loved being a Leaf and did not want to be traded and they traded hom as they thought he was a liability. He was not a liability but a small player sticking up for his team mates

 

[Leaf Fans]

It was probably both. But you keep up that denial.

I don't intend to deny any facts. You can if you want to though.

 

[hotpaws]

This whole thread is just people writing fan fiction and pretending it is fact, then the 5 other miserable people people come in, like a post, pretend it is fact too, and defend it.

more like a small group of Dubas supporters are on here defending him like their life depends on it

 

[Antropovsky]

I like Dubas.... but he really hasn't passed the test. Hard not to make the playoffs with the core he inherited and he hasn't gotten any further in the postseason than anyone before him. The core players basically negotiated their own contracts even. We are all just excited about his draft picks... the rest has been bad and the picks can still turn out bad.

 

[notbias]

more like a small group of Dubas supporters are on here defending him like their life depends on it

You said this...

"Lou wasn't perfect but there's no way he would have had to pay a 1st to dump Marleau or would have had Marleau dictate to him how he departed."

Dubas had to let Marleau dictate how he departed cause Lou gave him a NMC.

Keep writing that fan fiction, your pals will be in soon to like your posts.

 

[hotpaws]

You said this...

"Lou wasn't perfect but there's no way he would have had to pay a 1st to dump Marleau or would have had Marleau dictate to him how he departed."

Dubas had to let Marleau dictate how he departed cause Lou gave him a NMC.

Keep writing that fan fiction, your pals will be in soon to like your posts.

i know what i said and it's fact that he's made multiple deals disappear painlessly and even the one where he had to pay like Ladd which was a much worse deal than Marleau's he still didn't give up a 1st to trade him

but hey , who am i to stop you from worshiping Dubas , especially since this will most likely be the last season you'll be able too do it

 

[notbias]

i know what i said and it's fact that he's made multiple deals disappear painlessly and even the one where he had to pay like Ladd which was a much worse deal than Marleau's he still didn't give up a 1st to trade him

but hey , who am i to stop you from worshiping Dubas , especially since this will most likely be the last season you'll be able too do it

they might give up 2x2nd and a 3rd, not sure it's better.

he also only had a M-NTC

we had to find a team willing to buy out Marleau

but keep thinking that Ladd's contract is harder to move.

Arizona never takes on bad contracts like Carolina does.

Also, Ladd's salary is less than his cap hit, so that also helps.

 

[Jozay]

Kadri dunked on Dubas tonight lol

 

[hotpaws]

they might give up 2x2nd and a 3rd, not sure it's better.

he also only had a M-NTC

we had to find a team willing to buy out Marleau

but keep thinking that Ladd's contract is harder to move.

Arizona never takes on bad contracts like Carolina does.

Also, Ladd's salary is less than his cap hit, so that also helps.

if it turn into 2 seconds and a third that's still is less than what Dubas gave up , Ladd also had m-ntc and his contract had 2 years left as opposed to only 1 yr for Marleau so yea Ladds was much worse

we didn't have to trade him to a team that would buy him out , there were more ways to move that deal if we had to other than to do exactly what Marleau wanted

but hey like i said i'm not here to ruin your last season worshipping Dubas , so you enjoy the time you have left with him because it goes quickly

 

[Leaf Fans]

more like a small group of Dubas supporters are on here defending him like their life depends on it

No, it is not. It is the same people who just go in every thread to trash Dubas.

 

[Maplebeasts]

As usual your wrong
Kadri was a star player
Every time he playes with skill players his points go up. He played with hot garbage many times in Toronto. He played behind Bozak on the Leafs which is a big joke. He out produced him despite of his line mates the man has proven himself to be a star.
He was mistreated by the Leafs from day one. Then rather getting some players to take the role as a defender of his team mates they left it on him.
The return was horrible a liability soft D man who was a free agent and a winger who was also soft for a 30 goal scorer who played for keeps.
He has been done dirty by the league with suspends for plays that others have been giving nothing.

Nylander has been a player who has had everything given to him despite not earning it and he is still here.
We trade away good players all the time, Brown we could have used the last two playoff years over Nylander and we likely would have won.
Dufus is an idiot. Stop defending the fake glasses man.

I just can't take you seriously when you suggest Brown over Nylander makes this team win a series in the last 2 playoffs. That's just indefensible lunacy.

 

[ACC1224]

if it turn into 2 seconds and a third that's still is less than what Dubas gave up , Ladd also had m-ntc and his contract had 2 years left as opposed to only 1 yr for Marleau so yea Ladds was much worse

we didn't have to trade him to a team that would buy him out , there were more ways to move that deal if we had to other than to do exactly what Marleau wanted

but hey like i said i'm not here to ruin your last season worshipping Dubas , so you enjoy the time you have left with him because it goes quickly

Only people that would deny the Marleau debacle isn’t in the top 3 Dubas bad moves are those that don’t believe he’s made at least 3 bad moves.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Soft teams he traded the leaf with the most Jam for a D man and another soft center

yeah well he kept getting suspended and Ive already been over this countless times I wish they never traded him. I was okay with the return but I wanted another year to see how Matthews, Tavares, Kadri would do down the middle
to be honest I dont think I need to discus this anymore
Happy he won

 

[Leaf Fans]

Only people that would deny the Marleau debacle isn’t in the top 3 Dubas bad moves are those that don’t believe he’s made at least 3 bad moves.

No, there are the people who put the Marleau debacle on Lou.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Kyle's tenure has been a complete and utter debacle. It's astonishing to see how someone f***ed this up so much. My bet is Mikheyev will be the next guy playing for the Cup.