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Despite major challanges, Kyle Dubas has passed the tests

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Stephen said:
His whole season has been an FU to Dubas. Good for him!
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I doubt it. His whole season has been focused on winning with Colorado. It had nothing to do with the Leafs or Dubas with the exception of a few on this board and on the main board.
 
Dekes For Days said:
None of those are current problems. They're past grievances based largely on hindsight, an improper understanding of contracts, and blaming our GM for a global pandemic.

Marner and Nylander weren't overpaid. Their contracts are consistent with the history of post-ELC contracts, and in the present, both provide considerably more value and impact to the team than their cap hits. Matthews was signed to the term he was to ensure that everybody could be fit in. 5 years is the most common post-ELC term for a player of that caliber. He's still locked up for 2 more years and seems likely to re-sign, so it's also not a current problem.

It's easy to say with hindsight that we shouldn't have traded for Foligno, since he got injured while he was here, and we didn't win the cup, but we were in a go-for-it situation, Foligno was exactly the type of player that everybody here was dying for, and we know for a fact from the Prime series that multiple teams were offering 1sts, so it's not like we paid beyond the established price. It sucks that we didn't end up getting a ton of value out of Foligno, and I probably would have preferred Hall at their respective costs, but teams in our position buy rentals.

Kadri had just been suspended for the 2nd consecutive playoffs after a history of discipline issues and had to go, and the trade was widely seen as a win at the time. We needed a middle-six forward who was good defensively and on the PK more than we needed a slightly more offensive but less defensive middle-six forward who was good on the PP and who would get suspended every playoffs, and it allowed us to add a defenseman who checked off a lot of boxes (cheap 20+ min right-handed puck mover with a big PP shot coming off an excellent playoffs) in our biggest cap crunch year.

Keeping Marleau wasn't an option. You don't significantly hinder yourself in a competitive year and sell off actual helpful players for under value in order to drag around 6+ million dead weight in an on-ice liability that doesn't even want to be there. Tavares isn't a problem. He is a big part of our team and adds a lot of value, and we added him for zero assets. If signing a PPG #1 center to a reasonable UFA deal is your biggest problem, you're doing pretty well.
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These are all lame excuses for what turned out at the end of the day to be poor cap and asset management.

Kadri was on a fantastically cheap contract and was only traded because he was playing too hard in the playoffs. I’m glad Naz called out Dubas after the win tonight. He deserved it.

The leafs are a country club team with close to zero accountability for failures. Nothing will change until Dubas and Keefe are gone.
 
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RoadWarrior said:
These are all lame excuses for what turned out at the end of the day to be poor cap and asset management.

Kadri was on a fantastically cheap contract and was only traded because he was playing too hard in the playoffs. I’m glad Naz called out Dubas after the win tonight. He deserved it.

The leafs are a country club team with close to zero accountability for failures. Nothing will change until Dubas and Keefe are gone.
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Ironically the biggest example of demonstrating accountability was trading Kadri after Naz got suspended for the second straight playoff series.
 
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BertCorbeau said:
Ironically the biggest example of demonstrating accountability was trading Kadri after Naz got suspended for the second straight playoff series.
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I honestly don't disagree with the trade. The return was weird but whatever at least we tried something. Rather us be creative then do nothing

I'm sure his kma was more to the media then and some fans then Kyle lol
 
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rocketman588 said:
I honestly don't disagree with the trade. The return was weird but whatever at least we tried something. Rather us be creative then do nothing

I'm sure his kma was more to the media then and some fans then Kyle lol
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What exactly does "Rather us be creative then do nothing" mean?
 
Leaf Fans said:
I doubt it. His whole season has been focused on winning with Colorado. It had nothing to do with the Leafs or Dubas with the exception of a few on this board and on the main board.
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Kadri just said in an interview for everyone who thought I was a liability "you can go kiss my ass"
 
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rocketman588 said:
I honestly don't disagree with the trade. The return was weird but whatever at least we tried something. Rather us be creative then do nothing

I'm sure his kma was more to the media then and some fans then Kyle lol
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Kadri was suspended last year, remember. So I'm sure heading into this post-season there was a lot of chatter out there since that was his 3rd playoff suspension in 4 years.

Proved those doubters wrong for sure.

Then again .. if he were a Leaf, I bet you he would have gotten some games for that contact with Binnington in round 2.
 
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All Mod Cons said:
What exactly does "Rather us be creative then do nothing" mean?
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It means I'd rather us at least try shit then sit on our hands and just keep running the same team back over and over again.

The return was not a good one but I'd rather us at least try to change stuff. It was a gamble that didn't pay off. I would have been at least relatively ok with it even now if it was for Barrie at the hit he was with us for a longer term or something if that nature.

It's like with willy this year we might not win the trade but at least we can see what we can get for him instead of just plugging the same shit over and over again "because odds say we'll have to win a round sometime"
 
BertCorbeau said:
Kadri was suspended last year, remember. So I'm sure heading into this post-season there was a lot of chatter out there since that was his 3rd playoff suspension in 4 years.

Proved those doubters wrong for sure.

Then again .. if he were a Leaf, I bet you he would have gotten some games for that contact with Binnington in round 2.
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I think he got pushed into the goalie right, so I would assume not but who knows
 
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