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[Sensung]

the thing about signing guys at EK's age to 7 or 8 year deals is history shows they don't work out too well for the team. this team could have all the money in the world and I'd still wonder in a cap world if a "market" value deal is the right move. And I'd definitely explore what a trade might look like because it is part of due diligence

Dealing Karlsson is stupid.

Dealing Karlsson with Ryan attached is indefensible.

Sorry, but no player tilts the ice more than EK and he does it for 30 min a night.

 

[pzeeman]

Sorry, but no player tilts the ice more than EK and he does it for 30 min a night.

Sure, but will he be doing that in the 2025-2026 season when you're paying him $12.5M? Or will he be the next Phaneuf/Ryan anchor contract? It's a fair question and one that this team needs to be worried about with its slim margin of error.

For the record (again, I hate having to do this to prevent the ad hominem attacks) I would like to see Karlsson re-signed on July 1, 2018 for a reasonable number (10x8?), not a blank cheque.

 

[JD1]

Dealing Karlsson is stupid.

Dealing Karlsson with Ryan attached is indefensible.

Sorry, but no player tilts the ice more than EK and he does it for 30 min a night.

thing is I agree with you on the tilting the ice comment.

but signing versus trading is an issue of cost versus what you can get

now if they package Ryan in there that' going to piss a lot of people off...me included

 

[Sensung]

Sure, but will he be doing that in the 2025-2026 season when you're paying him $12.5M? Or will he be the next Phaneuf/Ryan anchor contract? It's a fair question and one that this team needs to be worried about with its slim margin of error.

For the record (again, I hate having to do this to prevent the ad hominem attacks) I would like to see Karlsson re-signed on July 1, 2018 for a reasonable number (10x8?), not a blank cheque.

If his contract is a problem at the end he makes up for it in ticket sales.

Hopefully the new owner in Lebreton arena opens up the purse strings and EK's percentage of budget drops accordingly.

The financial picture for the Sens SHOULD look mighty different in the final year of EK's new deal.

 

[pzeeman]

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now if they package Ryan in there that' going to piss a lot of people off...me included

If it affects the return, even I may join the pointless boycotts. Cheer for SEA or QC until they get rid of the front office.

 

[JD1]

Sure, but will he be doing that in the 2025-2026 season when you're paying him $12.5M? Or will he be the next Phaneuf/Ryan anchor contract? It's a fair question and one that this team needs to be worried about with its slim margin of error.

For the record (again, I hate having to do this to prevent the ad hominem attacks) I would like to see Karlsson re-signed on July 1, 2018 for a reasonable number (10x8?), not a blank cheque.

and that's the dilemma and highlights my comment on what history shows. it's a tough call. flip side is that if we do trade EK then we should have a lot of talent / assets coming in.

 

[Sensung]

and that's the dilemma and highlights my comment on what history shows. it's a tough call. flip side is that if we do trade EK then we should have a lot of talent / assets coming in.

And very few fans to watch those new assets...

 

[JD1]

And very few fans to watch those new assets...

I think you underestimate how much people like watching hockey

 

[Spartachat]

If we have to trade Karlsson. We could always try and sign the next best thing. Carlson from the Caps who will be a free agent.

 

[Sensung]

I think you underestimate how much people like watching hockey

Lots of hockey to be watched that doesn't include an owner unwilling to pay for generational talent.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Since the rangers are rebuilding ill be rooting for the flyers or caps when/if Karlsson leaves. What team you guys gonna go for?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Since the rangers are rebuilding ill be rooting for the flyers or caps when/if Karlsson leaves. What team you guys gonna go for?

Ottawa.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Since the rangers are rebuilding ill be rooting for the flyers or caps when/if Karlsson leaves. What team you guys gonna go for?

Are the Ottawa Lynx still around?

 

[Sensung]

Since the rangers are rebuilding ill be rooting for the flyers or caps when/if Karlsson leaves. What team you guys gonna go for?

Same two other teams I always cheer for...whoever is playing the Leafs and Habs.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Those two massive contracts, along with a couple of big ones have killed Chicago and they have more money to play with. 12.5 is a massive amount of the years budget for a cap team, let alone a budget team.

Over an 8 year period that's a lot of player dollars. I mean two super stars at 8 million is almost EK at max and Smith.

Caution needs to be exhibited here, one more leg injury and EK could be the biggest anchor in the league. I want him signed, but never at the expense of crippling the team going forward, or preventing us from affording a championship team.

I'm looking forward to seeing what happens

 

[Sensung]

Those two massive contracts, along with a couple of big ones have killed Chicago and they have more money to play with. 12.5 is a massive amount of the years budget for a cap team, let alone a budget team.

Over an 8 year period that's a lot of player dollars. I mean two super stars at 8 million is almost EK at max and Smith.

Caution needs to be exhibited here, one more leg injury and EK could be the biggest anchor in the league. I want him signed, but never at the expense of crippling the team going forward, or preventing us from affording a championship team.

I'm looking forward to seeing what happens

The budget is unnecessary, EK is not.

 

[Ice-Tray]

The budget is unnecessary, EK is not.

Honestly, I really don't think the Sens make cap team revenues. I don't think anyone thinks that, so we have a budget to work within whether we like the owner or not, and he doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

EK is good, but he's not bigger than the team.

 

[Sensung]

Honestly, I really don't think the Sens make cap team revenues. I don't think anyone thinks that, so we have a budget to work within whether we like the owner or not, and he doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

EK is good, but he's not bigger than the team.

Any owner who can't afford ONE max contract to a generational player has no business owning an NHL franchise.

 

[Ray Kinsella]

Since the rangers are rebuilding ill be rooting for the flyers or caps when/if Karlsson leaves. What team you guys gonna go for?

Ottawa

 

[Ice-Tray]

Any owner who can't afford ONE max contract to a generational player has no business owning an NHL franchise.

I don't think "can afford" is the issue, as much as you'd like it to be. It's more like should we lock that much money up for that long on one player.

It's very debatable one way or another. The last 3-4 years of that deal at 12.5 million could be brutal.

 

[Sensung]

I don't think "can afford" is the issue, as much as you'd like it to be. It's more like should we lock that much money up for that long on one player.

It's very debatable one way or another. The last 3-4 years of that deal at 12.5 million could be brutal.

There is no debate.

The budget is unnecessary.

Melnyk needs to sign EK or GTFO.

 

[Sensung]

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[Nac Mac Feegle]

I don't think "can afford" is the issue, as much as you'd like it to be. It's more like should we lock that much money up for that long on one player.

It's very debatable one way or another. The last 3-4 years of that deal at 12.5 million could be brutal.

I don't think we'll have to worry that much. Traditionally, defensemen tend to be paid less than centers. I don't see Erik getting 12 mil from anyone, really. I think the contracts for defensemen (him and Due Doughty) will likely max out around 10.5.

 

[Sun God Nika]

There is no debate.

The budget is unnecessary.

Melnyk needs to sign EK or GTFO.

Budget is 100% necessary how else will Melnyk stay in the top 1% without maximizing his only real revenue source.

 

[Bileur]

Where are we going to get two superstars for 8 million each? I’m particularly curious given that I’d argue Karlsson is the only legit superstar this franchise has ever had.