LeBrun: DeBrincat will most likely be traded, agent has submitted list of preferred destinations

[bert]

That depends entirely on the AAV of said extension.

Kasper has played a game. He was a top 10 pick last summer and if anything has improved his position since then. He's only a handful of months older than Leo Carlsson and only scored a couple less points over in Sweden this past year.

Well what do you think he will get paid? I am assuming its probably an 8 X 8. Which with the cap going up for a 25 year old multi 40 goal scorer thats a valuable commodity.

Anyway I agree that deal wont happen.

 

[ottawah]

Sens are going to set their team back for years based on this deal.

I think that pushing it a bit. 7th overall has been a mixed bag through the years. For every Quinn Hughes there is a Lias Andersson. You do not often get a player at 7 that is a game changer. And of course we have no way of knowing whom Ottawa may have chosen.

It was a calculated risk.

Well what do you think he will get paid? I am assuming its probably an 8 X 8. Which with the cap going up for a 25 year old multi 40 goal scorer thats a valuable commodity.

Anyway I agree that deal wont happen.

I thinks thats a minimum unless he takes less to be where he really wants to be. I'd expect closer to 9+ if he goes UFA and the cap goes up by 10M as expected next summer.

 

[norrisnick]

Well what do you think he will get paid? I am assuming its probably an 8 X 8. Which with the cap going up for a 25 year old multi 40 goal scorer thats a valuable commodity.

Anyway I agree that deal wont happen.

At least that. Until the cap actually does go up, that's a very tricky deal. I'm not sure you win much in this league if DeBrincat is in your top 3-4 cap hits on your roster unless you have a ton of ELC/cost controlled contribution. And if $8Mx8 isn't in your top 4, you are top heavy as f*** and likely still won't win.

This situation is exactly why teams are starting to lock up kids coming out of their ELCs. It's a trap.

 

[bert]

I think that pushing it a bit. 7th overall has been a mixed bag through the years. For every Quinn Hughes there is a Lias Andersson. You do not often get a player at 7 that is a game changer. And of course we have no way of knowing whom Ottawa may have chosen.

It was a calculated risk.


I thinks thats a minimum unless he takes less to be where he really wants to be. I'd expect closer to 9+ if he goes UFA and the cap goes up by 10M as expected next summer.

Thats where I massively dissagree. Its only a calculated risk if you have an extension worked out. It was a horrible deal if not. Secondly they knew they were getting Giroux another Right handed forward that is one dimensional with an average motor is not what the team needed at all. The roster make up is incredibly flawed.

No one is paying a one dimensional undersized goal scoring winger that much money. He's never scored 80 points and doesnt drive a line. He had good linemates last year and they got folded in on 5 on 5. Great complimentary player on a team with size pace and good analystics not a good fit on the sens roster.

 

[Hammettf2b]

Detroit should be where is goes.

Marco Kasper + #43 ?

oof. Way off

 

[dekelikekocur]

Detroit should be where is goes.

Marco Kasper + #43 ?

Are you punch drunk or something? Detroit isn't Giving up Kasper for Alex, in a 1 for 1 and they sure as hell wouldn't be adding assets.

 

[Qward]

Ottawa can do a sign and trade and a deal will be based on that.

GM's are not like HFBoarders, they dont hate each other and try to screw each other over all the time.

 

[These Are The Days]

Zero chance of Philly. The Flyers are going through a rebuild, just traded Provorov for futures, and may trade Hart for the same. Last thing they're doing is trading for DeBrincat and paying him 9 mil per.

That feels like peak Flyers. They should have just started the rebuild last year

 

[Djp]

More likely we'd take him to arb to knock off 0.5-1m from his 9m QO than sign it as is to make him more tradable. We'd also be prioritizing the teams on his preferred list of destinations so an extension can be arranged as part of the trade which will return a better package. He needs to be traded this summer, waiting until the deadline would be a disaster for our team that will hurt our chances getting into the playoffs assuming we'd still be a bubble team trying to secure a wild spot. Making the post season is a priority now and trading him that late will would hurt our chances, would be really dumb if we wait until then.

Center are priority over wingers—yes or no?

next summer besides him hitting UFA you posdibly have Matthews, Aho, PLD, Schieffle, nylander, and a few others that will come first over him.

many of these players are going to subject to trade talks or roster planning for 24 summer off season. Debrincat will be a 3rd or later option .

I don’t see much of a market for him unless he signs something much lower than expects like around $6.5M per or something shorter like 3 yrs..

 

[Zrhutch]

Just wanted to post this because it’s funny from a Dallas perspective lol

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Detroit should be where is goes.

Marco Kasper + #43 ?

Just wanted to post this because it’s funny from a Dallas perspective lol

That makes no sense for Dallas.

Wyatt Johnston just had a terrific rookie year and is cost controlled. Marchment is a solid 2nd/3rd line tweener on a decent deal. DeBrincat had 3 more goals than Rookie Johnston. Not a good move.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

What a disaster that trade was.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Why won't the Sens just re-sign Cat? What was the point of trading for him?

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Over his 6 seasons he has averaged 34.1 goals.

Someone is going to want him. I think this year hurt his chances at 9.5 million.

I am really curious what he will get and who will get him. Do the Wild have anything that could work / cap space available?

 

[NYRFANMANI]

You traded a 2nd and a 1 st last year to get the guy.

Did his stock fall badly? OTT should definitely go for that package again.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

Over his 6 seasons he has averaged 34.1 goals.

Someone is going to want him. I think this year hurt his chances at 9.5 million.

I am really curious what he will get and who will get him. Do the Wild have anything that could work / cap space available?

Wild have lots of trade assets... But they have 9 million in cap space and need to sign eight players in order to have a roster next season.

 

[BKarchitect]

Lol. Of course some Sens account wants Saros, Askarov or Wyatt Johnston for Cat.

Keep dreaming.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Wild have lots of trade assets... But they have 9 million in cap space and need to sign eight players in order to have a roster next season.

I didn't look and I know they are tight. I just think of someone that could add goal scoring with Kaprisov.

Realistically though

4 forwards 2 defensemen that gives 1 spare forward and defensemen in the press box.

I really get/understand the buyouts but damn. 2 more years before they drop to a respectable number.

I don't see Debrincat chasing now that I look.

 

[BondraTime]

Just wanted to post this because it’s funny from a Dallas perspective lol

It makes no sense from any of the teams. It’s just a homer Twitter account.

 

[SENStastic]

Center are priority over wingers—yes or no?

next summer besides him hitting UFA you posdibly have Matthews, Aho, PLD, Schieffle, nylander, and a few others that will come first over him.

many of these players are going to subject to trade talks or roster planning for 24 summer off season. Debrincat will be a 3rd or later option .

I don’t see much of a market for him unless he signs something much lower than expects like around $6.5M per or something shorter like 3 yrs..

Centers are more valuable yes, but no they are not the priority for any team, it all depends on what their needs are. Some might be in the market for a centre, others for scoring wingers.

Also, from the players you had listed there, only Nylander is comparable, the rest arent, and he's most likely back in TO next year from the comments their GM has made so far. So if he becomes available, it wont be surprising that it will happen next offseason when the cap is gonna shoot up and the players asking price will get inflated significantly. Nylander could easily fetch 10m in that case.

Matthews- a center commanding 14.5+ most likely. Not a good comparison and prob not a fit for teams looking for winger anyhow.
Scheifele- 5 years older, at the end of his prime, with rumoured locker room issues. Also a centre. Again, not a good comaprison, but he'll be looking for similar aav as DC, prob 9+
PLD- almost certainly going to mtrl. Center.
Aho- Again, center and I haven't heard anything about him wanting out of Carolina? I'm assuming he's most likely not going to be available and is resigned.

Nylander is prob the only one that makes sense. If you want to nab a young, high skilled scoring winger and lock him in long term, this is the best summer to do it, and those aren't readily available, he's a potential 40g scorer and legit first liner, but not on our current roster, no space. DC is a good candidate for that, he'll most likely want 9m avv with term, but cant get it here with us. Other clubs however would certainly covet him, especially if he's already coming with an extension, which is why we should prioritize teams on his preferred list and have an extension agreement in place as part of the trade to increase the return.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Why won't the Sens just re-sign Cat? What was the point of trading for him?

Disclaimer - I'm a Hawks fan and really like AD.

I think that AD is one of those guys who doesn't drive the play but is a great complimentary player. He's put up some really solid numbers which put him in a contract range that is going to make fans not like value.

The thought that he'd get a young, legit "blue-chip" cost controlled asset back like Johnston is an absolute travesty IMO.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If Nashville is on there how is getting Askaraov + when the sens need a goalie and would fit in nicely with the core not exciting ?

 

[Soundgarden]

Just wanted to post this because it’s funny from a Dallas perspective lol

Yeah, pretty dogshit from Nashville's perspective too, trading Saros/Askarov for a winger when we're absolutely flooded with wingers and winger prospects?

 

[Djp]

Disclaimer - I'm a Hawks fan and really like AD.

I think that AD is one of those guys who doesn't drive the play but is a great complimentary player. He's put up some really solid numbers which put him in a contract range that is going to make fans not like value.

The thought that he'd get a young, legit "blue-chip" cost controlled asset back like Johnston is an absolute travesty IMO.

this is what’s going to happen going forward.

the ones that get the money would be our top 2 C, top 3 D, and starting goalie.

wingers are going to get churned over likeRBs in the nfl where they need to be something high scoring like Ovie or power forward type in Tkachuk to get the high money above $8M on long contracts.

 

[WingsToPick4th]

wings will get him for 17OA and Cross Hanas/similar level FWD prospect/player or bostons 1st next year (could be lottery pick if they suck) and Ottawa will be happy to recoup assets and use the cap on other players (goalie/gritty winger - Varlomov + Killorn or Barbashev?)