LeBrun: DeBrincat will most likely be traded, agent has submitted list of preferred destinations

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ZDH

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Ottawa has no leverage here. They aren't getting a mid first or a comparable player. Temper expectations sens fans.
 

DaveMatthew

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The teams trading for DeBrincat aren’t going to send an 8 million dollar value player back to Ottawa though. Those guys are either legit top pair D or legit top line forwards or cap dumps.

No, but 90% of the teams in this league is cap strapped. Ottawa being able to take salary back will increase the value they get, even though the salary they get back will not be "as good" as DBC.

For example, if Washington is interested, Ottawa can take Mantha back. If Dallas is interested, Ottawa can take Marchment back.
 

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No, but 90% of the teams in this league is cap strapped. Ottawa being able to take salary back will increase the value they get, even though the salary they get back will not be "as good" as DBC.

For example, if Washington is interested, Ottawa can take Mantha back. If Dallas is interested, Ottawa can take Marchment back.

I understand, though I don’t think that type of trade works well for Ottawa. (The examples you used, anyway)

It might be easier to flip DBC for futures then trade the futures for a replacement.
 

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I understand, though I don’t think that type of trade works well for Ottawa. (The examples you used, anyway)

It might be easier to flip DBC for futures then trade the futures for a replacement.

Taking a contract like Mantha or Marchment (just as examples) back will increase the value of the futures they get, so they could do both.
 

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Not ideal, but might work out in the end.

Sens should try and get a feel for if someone like Bertuzzi would be interested as a UFA.

Flip Debrincat for whatever you can get, whether that’s solid depth players, or picks and prospects and slot Bertuzzi in his place.

Easier said than done, but the 8th year is an incentive for Debrincat to help facilitate a sign and trade vs just walking to free agency.
 

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There's a sizable hole in our top six if he goes with a replacement coming back. I don't have a lot of faith in our ability to attract free agents and I'm not really a big fan of the upcoming UFA pool anyway. I hope he's interested in playing with Jack Hughes and Bratt comes the other way. That's absolutely ideal to me provided contracts get worked out for all parties. If something like that isn't available, I'd take some good, NHL quantity instead. No futures-based deals unless it's a big overpay please for me please.
 

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What if Carolina moved teravaiven back plus picks? Gives Ottawa a top 6 guy to fill the void and doesn’t cost as much.
 

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Ottawa has no leverage here. They aren't getting a mid first or a comparable player. Temper expectations sens fans.

They will get a 1st or decent prospect/player back

If they don't find a trade, they like they can qualify him and then consider moving him at TDL. Its risky but if they are offered crap, it is better to risk losing him as UFA then give him away now.
 

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Ottawa has no leverage here. They aren't getting a mid first or a comparable player. Temper expectations sens fans.
They do have leverage... They can easily just keep him at $7.65M, watch him get back to his 40 goal form, and get more time to try to extend him. If he still isn't sold by February, you need to commit to dealing him as a rental. He'll easily get a 1st++ at the deadline, with one of the pluses being pick conditional on him re-signing with that team.

I think they're going to try to do this in a respectable way. Dorion respects DeBrincat's decision and will offer to trade ADB this summer if he is willing to sign before to help Ottawa recoup assets. If he doesn't want to do that, then I would just keep him for the 1 year and commit to dealing him at the deadline, especially if they don't get a key piece back (mid 1st or Top 6 replacement).
 

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They do have leverage... They can easily just keep him at $7.65M, watch him get back to his 40 goal form, and get more time to try to extend him. If he still isn't sold by February, you need to commit to dealing him as a rental. He'll easily get a 1st++ at the deadline, with one of the pluses being pick conditional on him re-signing with that team.

I think they're going to try to do this in a respectable way. Dorion respects DeBrincat's decision and will offer to trade ADB this summer if he is willing to sign before to help Ottawa recoup assets. If he doesn't want to do that, then I would just keep him for the 1 year and commit to dealing him at the deadline, especially if they don't get a key piece back (mid 1st or Top 6 replacement).
How? His Qualifying Offer is $9 million. My guess is that he takes the QO and hopes to have a better year going into UFA.
 

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Any idea where his next contract projects to be cap wise?

I'd say he has more value than Caulfield, so thats a good barometer. 8 is likely minimum, but can easily push 9 especially with the cap shooting up.
 

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Team elected arbitration. Can lower the QO by 15%.

In saying that, there’s 0% chance an arbiter would lower the salary by that much, he’d get 8+ in arbitration without a doubt.

You know if Ottawa goes through arbitration they lose the minuscule leverage you're pretending they have? He becomes a UFA in a year.
 
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Ottawa has no leverage here. They aren't getting a mid first or a comparable player. Temper expectations sens fans.

No way this is true, as we are for sure trading him back to Chicago For Bedard.

Why you ask? Well that's a great question. Thing is, the Hawks aren't high on him, just ask Bedard!

It was written in the good book! The rebuild with the golden boy has long been foretold in Chicago, and the time is nigh the prophecy to bear fruition.

I mean, how else you think the Senators are going to be worth 1.2 billion without Bedard?!?
 

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Not sure if it’s been mentioned, but how about a swap for Kyrou with some small adds on each side to even it out?

We don’t really need anymore wingers, but it’s been speculated that we may be interested, so I’m trying to think of something that would make sense. I love Kyrou, but it’s starting to seem like he may not be a fit in St. Louis’ system, which is an absolute bummer imo.

DeBrincat I believe is better defensively, and we desperately could use his one-timer on our first PP unit.
Why? He ain’t gonna want to sign for less than we are paying Kyrou. is he better? I am dubious.
 

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You know if Ottawa goes through arbitration they lose the minuscule leverage you're pretending they have?

You cannot trade a player for a year after an arbitration ruling. In a year, DeBrincat will be a UFA.

This is not true. A player can be traded in the season after an arbitration award.

Ottawa could take him to arbitration, get his salary down, and then trade him during the season with additional retention, if they so choose.

Now, I don’t think that’s the route they’ll take. But they could.
 
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