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SA16
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How will Georgiev be giving his best during a playoff run? As a cheerleader on the bench?
PuckLuck3043
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Hindsight is 20/20. No organization makes every right decision. They made a decision to sign Kreider because he was a known quantity and a solid player. It wasn't a bad one either as he is having his best season and may score 50. I don't care if he's 30 as he can play another 5 years at a high level. There is no bleeding to stop quite frankly. The team is good, young, has elite talent, a good coach, and headed to the playoffs. The prospect pool is still top 3rd in the league and Kravs is still part of it and if in the off season he is traded then we will receive value in return. So much more good than bad with this team it's not even funny. You want to focus on the negative be my guest.
bleedblue94
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Doesn't really change the point. They still either did or tried to move dadanov by paying someone to take him instead of giving Smith away as many claimed they would have to do
TheBloodyNine
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Except they couldn't trade him where they wanted to....because of his no trade clause, which was said would affect that. So, yeah, it does change the point.
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TheBloodyNine
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bleedblue94
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Right, but they didn't. So again as I said Vegas was never giving Smith away and went to pay to move dadanov. If it gets nixed bc of an NHL nhlpa thing than that doesn't changes the fact that Vegas made absolutely no move to give Smith away as you and other claimed they would. I know you like to argue but this is actually not arguable, as you said Vegas could have traded Smith anywhere IF they wanted to. They didn't. They were never giving him away like you claimed they would. No point to trying to create an argument here. They made no effort to move Smith, none...
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
Drury did a great job. The team has 85 points and is battling for home ice. So they may be early in the process. He sent a message to the team to go make a run. Added 4 NHL bodies, including a middle sixer who can play center. And he did without giving up their 1st in ‘22 (barring a run that would make it not a big deal) or ‘23, Kravtsov, Lundkvist, Robertson, Jones, Chytil, Lafreniere, Schneider, Kakko. Kept every single one.
On top of that, there are a ton of excess pieces which can be moved near the draft to recoup those picks. Gauthier. Hajek. Georgiev. Guys with no future here.
I mean, he gave up 2 2nds (or a first and a second if we go deep), 1 3rd, 2 4ths, 1 5th and Barron for Copp, Vatrano, Motte, and Braun. None of whom are signed beyond this season when the cap gets tight giving him flexibility with $ decisions going into the offseason, as to whom to sign first and when (Kakko). If they don’t resign Copp they’ll trade his rights for a 4th or 5th. Maybe Georgiev gets a 2nd. Maybe Gauthier and Hajek get a 5th or 6th.
After the debacle Buch trade and a few other questionable moves, I’m ecstatic with his job here. I feared worse. He was smart and targeted good players/fits at reasonable prices.
Edit: also kept Othmann, Berard, Cuylle. Even Tarmo.
On top of that, there are a ton of excess pieces which can be moved near the draft to recoup those picks. Gauthier. Hajek. Georgiev. Guys with no future here.
I mean, he gave up 2 2nds (or a first and a second if we go deep), 1 3rd, 2 4ths, 1 5th and Barron for Copp, Vatrano, Motte, and Braun. None of whom are signed beyond this season when the cap gets tight giving him flexibility with $ decisions going into the offseason, as to whom to sign first and when (Kakko). If they don’t resign Copp they’ll trade his rights for a 4th or 5th. Maybe Georgiev gets a 2nd. Maybe Gauthier and Hajek get a 5th or 6th.
After the debacle Buch trade and a few other questionable moves, I’m ecstatic with his job here. I feared worse. He was smart and targeted good players/fits at reasonable prices.
Edit: also kept Othmann, Berard, Cuylle. Even Tarmo.
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Is it still TheBloodyNine or whatever his name is? I feel like he wasn't this insufferable prior to this season. I've never seen someone be so miserable. Not even during our shit seasons.
TheBloodyNine
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Guess there should have been an effort to move him though huh, seeing as how it wasn't so easy to trade Dadanov?
You said they would just pay someone to take Dadanov, well from what we know the only team willing to do that was a team he literally could not be traded to, because of his trade clause, which we all said would get in the way of trading him.
Vegas made another dumb move in a long line of them - We were right that they should have moved him because then they wouldn't be in this situation now would they?
Just take the L on this one. That Golden Knights tweet about a problem with the trade popped up almost immediately after you posted that attempted dunk.
TheBloodyNine
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I love how obsessed with me this guy is. I also love how he bitches more than I do in GDTs
bleedblue94
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Where is the Smith trade?
Without a Smith trade there is no "L" here on my side. You're the one that said for months they would have to give Smith away for free. They didn't. Just stop.
TheBloodyNine
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They didn't....because they tried to do something they couldn't, which you said they would be able to do easily. Guess it wasn't so easy. Ya think, maybe they should have tried to trade him instead of a guy they couldn't?Where the Smith trade?
Without a Smith trade there is no "L" here on my side. You're the one that said for months they would have to give Smith away for free. They didn't. Just stop.
They made the wrong choice and now they're f***ed. Also, if you look at what they were trying to do in order to get rid of Dadanov, it's clear that nobody was throwing the Knights a life raft.
This has honestly been one of the funniest things I've seen on my time here on the board. How quickly the whole thing unraveled after you posted that.
bleedblue94
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Where is the Smith trade you proclamated?
No Smith trade = you were wrong. Move on...
TheBloodyNine
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Where's the Dadanov trade? About to be void because they tried to move him to a place where his NTC wouldn't allow them to.
Which we said would happen. We said it would not be easy to just "trade Dadanov" as you so proudly proclaimed.
So, I guess, at the end of the day, it wasn't so easy to just trade him, huh? Guess it was harder than you thought? Huh?
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bleedblue94
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They actually did trade or try to trade dadanov. They made no effort to trade Smith. How is this even a debate ha. Try as you may you literally said they could've traded Smith anywhere if they wanted yet they still didn't do that. I'm fact there isn't a single credible report anywhere that Smith was discussed in deals that I've seen. They did in fact agree to a deal to trade dadanov. It's going to be up to an arbitrator of some sort but Vegas literally made an effort to do one thing and not the other yet somehow you're arguing that they still needed to give Smith away for free, or do you even know what you're arguing at this point?
Also I never said it would be easy to deal dadanov, I said he would be the guy they would try to trade if it came down to it, not Smith. Stop trying to manipulate things.
TheBloodyNine
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Right, they tried and failed, because, like we all said, it wasn't going to be easy. The easy thing to do would have been to trade Riley Smith. Literally would have solved a good load of their problems even though they wouldn't have gotten a lot for him.
So for a team that desperately needs cap space, after they realized they couldn't trade him, what do you think would have happened next? What follows logically? And do you think any team in the NHL would be willing to do them any favors at that point? It's ok, you can say it.
You're original post was sum and substance that you "said for weeks" that they were gonna solve their problems by trading Dadanov, when literally they only created more problems, so I don't think you really read that situation correctly.
bleedblue94
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Did they trade Smith? Did they even try to trade Smith as you claimed they would have to? No
You twist things worse than my ex.
Good night.
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Matt Rentfree
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JFC! How many 8 balls did Kouleas shove up his nose before this podcast?
Who does he think he is, Dick Vitale?
Chefrah54
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first time posting in a long long time ... JD and Gorts had a plan and that was excacty what Drury executed since the Buch trade . Their last draft , they drafted chippy kids, schneids , cuylle, berard, even vierling... then the beating by the Islanders in the home and home ,then the Tom Wilson bullying .... now in drurys defense he now , buch trade sucked but the player we got back is what we covet , he signs Goodrow , which I thought we overpaid for but as we watch him play this season, to me he is worth every penny...then he gets the BIG GUY out of Vegas a big deterrent from guys taking liberties out on players and yes , as you watch other teams know this, no more running MIKA with out repercussions , oh i forgot he locked up 2 of our main core guys for very good costs and got Turk on top...now he also has to deal with 5 1st rd picks , none of his, , all fowards , which as of now 1 is gone, the other took his ball and went home, Chytil went too early imo and he looks like it, then the 2 big guys are a combined 268 gp, 49g, 47 assists , ik their young BUT ? then he takes Othman which is a looking better then the other previous i mentioned ... Now the dealine moves , love the chemistry with conections with frankie v , motte , copp to troubs, as far as the picks and barron, could Barron be better then Copp, thats what we were hoping for buts not ready to contribute to this teams core guys and the window to win a cup... Drury got blais, hunt , goodrow , reaves, frankie V , Copp, and motte, all guys that fit the coveted motif that started with the 2020 draft and he gave up barron , Buch and picks, think about that? If drury is a real miracle worker , can he sign 2 0f the 3 or all 3 with copp, frankie v and motte, guys that are exactly what the doctor ordered for us to merge the rebuild without giving up any A prospects and have a full deck if we make a run at a bigtime player , id rather have the good quantity of depth which Drury just pulled off , we amped up for a run this year without giving up that much , now next year with these trades and all of our A prospects , he really couldn't have done it much better... Kudos Dury , now ranger fans , believe in him , he deserves it
Black Tank
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Even the Buch trade is not ready for review - we all know what Buch brings and what it would have cost to keep him but we still don't know what Blais brings to the team. Ultimately it doesn't matter because Drury has done a phenomenal job of keeping all the assets other than late 2d and 3d and 4th round picks where it's pure rolling of the dice whether or not you're going to get an NHL player much less an impact player. We got better for the POs this year while keeping everyone. That's f***ing amazing.
