Blackhawkswincup
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Sounds a bit like a certain bust traded yesterday for a 2nd round pick
Ignore that god awful D and horrid hockey IQ of Mr Rundblad
Confirmed with Link: David Rundblad and Mathieu Brisebois to the Hawks for a 2nd (2014)
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Sounds a bit like a certain bust traded yesterday for a 2nd round pick
Ignore that god awful D and horrid hockey IQ of Mr Rundblad
I don't get why you're saying he'll be a reserve guy. Our #6 is far from set in stone. We use Brookbank all the time. Rozsival was "the guy" that needed maintenance days last season, but he's played poorly this season. Kostka is gone. He'll get playing time.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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Maybe, maybe not. Maybe he wins a spot in camp next year. Its hard to say. If anything it creates competition at the back end of the roster. Sharp is a decent example because at age 24 he had played just over 60 games for the Flyers over 3 seasons, accumulating 15 points and was dumped for a 3rd round pick.
Blackhawkswincup
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Rozy has been fine after poor start
I mean if Rozy has played poorly what does it say about Rundblad that he has been healthy scratch for 2 years now
Cant even beat out David Schlemko for playing time in Pho
Nobody has. Because Phoenix didn't give him a chance. Logjam on defense. That's hardly "giving up" on a player. It's simply not giving him an opportunity.
Blue Liner
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AmericanDream
Thank you Elon!
absolutely. plus this move helps out Rockford big time as he seems to be taking a serious approach with getting our kids some serious meaningful playoff games in the A for once. Now you don't trade a 2nd away for that, but if you feel this guy can help out next year and help lead a younger group of kids in Rockford, not really going to argue that as playoff experience at any age is invaluable. Plus this draft is mediocre, if we are talking about 2015 different story.
You watch a lot of Coyotes games? I don't see how you could seeing how you also apparently watch every other team because you always have a strong opinion on players. You also apparently watched a ton of Jets games before Oduya came over and you watched a ton of Senators games before Campoli came over....I just wonder, where do you find the time?
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
This is hockey equivalent of when Bears traded 2nd for DE Gaines Adams
Bust who had little to no value or future yet team threw away quality asset for him for no reason.
Bust who had little to no value or future yet team threw away quality asset for him for no reason.
What it really comes down to is do you think Rundblad is better than what we'd get with a late 2nd round pick in what is thought to be a weak draft. If that answer is yes, then there's no reason to not make the move.
Thats not equivalent at all because in the NFL, 2nd round picks are very valuable. In the NHL, the vast majority of players never play 200 NHL games. It would have been like if the Bears got Adams for a 5th or 6th round pick.
If Rundblad plays just as much as Sheldon Brookbank, is it really that big a deal? It's not like Brookbank plays lights out for us. He's serviceable. Kinda.
Chelios
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You really are unbelievable sometimes. It is mind-boggling how you make these snap evaluations on players and then refuse to budge. Admit it, you have never seen Rundblad play nearly enough to determine how good his D is or how his hockey IQ is, much less state as fact that he is a "train wreck".
Blue Liner
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I also like the notion that if you happen to be ok with a deal or just give it a chance and be open to it and not outright hate that you're of the "Bowman can do no wrong" crowd and painted with that broad brush. It's amazing how little middle ground there is with stuff. It's extreme one way or the other.
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
Did the Hawks trade a 2nd rounder for Brookbank?
Run of the mill 7th dmen can be had via FA for free
Hawks 2nd is like a 3rd, and this isn't a deep draft coming up. As I already pointed out, it's a risk I'm willing to take, because a prospect like Rundblad is safer than a mystery box draft pick. His potential isn't "run-of-the-mill 7th defenseman."
Blue Liner
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The organization's pro scouts obviously saw/see something they like. Not the same situation as far as the players involved, but a lot of people pissed and moaned about Oduya coming over and that has turned out rather well, and that was based on this pro scouting staff seeing a guy who could fit with what this team wants to do. The staff has earned the benefit of the doubt from me, so if the staff saw something in this guy they feel can fit within the dynamics of this club when given a chance, I'll give them that benefit. Time will tell. For what will likely be a late second round pick in this largely average-mediocre draft, I'm okay with that.
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The inability for some of you to trust bowman with draft picks, and his management thereof, is astonishing at this point. Our GM CLEARLY knows what he's doing.
I'm very curious to see how the next 2 hours, as well as this offseason unfolds for our D core and D prospects
I'm very curious to see how the next 2 hours, as well as this offseason unfolds for our D core and D prospects
Hawkaholic
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Yup, he sucks, he's a bust. No Dman has ever got better after the old age of 23. The 55th pick in this years draft will definitely have more value than Rundblad.
Give me a break BWC. Stan knows more about Rundblad and every other prospect than you do, so why don't you let it play out before coming to stupid conclusions?
I remember when you said Stalberg wasn't an NHL player either and never would be.
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
Chris Campoli move comes to mind as a disaster like this potentially
Some of the same people praising Rundblad deal also tried to tell me that Campoli move wasn't a disaster at time
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
Being carried by talent of Hawks is not some positive. We see exactly what Stalberg is without his teammates in Chicago carrying him
Preds found out hard way that Stalberg was below average NHL player at best.
Hawkaholic
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No, they basically traded 1 underwhelming prospect with not much of a future for another prospect in the same exact situation.
Hawkaholic
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And yet he is still an NHLer...something you said he would never become.
