Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[PlainGretzky]

 

[Paddyjack]

Best Player Available is a thing people love to say, but there's an element of "need" in every draft pick, no matter the round.

The Ducks, Blue Jackets and Sharks wanted a center...that was an organizational need for all of them.

BPA can also have a large meaning. Is BPA seen as pure talent skills, or is it large enough to include other things such as personality traits, etc...? Because this here is important in the context that some fans are accusing HuGo of lying. If a guy has great skills but is well known as a locker room cancer, is he still a BPA? If Mitchov was perceived as a problem because of some unknown issues, is he still BPA? A lot of people were dissing on Leonard, and others before the draft, so then that D could have been the BPA at that moment in the Habs list.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Not me, I never wanted Michkov, mainly because it's too big a gamble to draft a Russian at this time, for obvious reasons.

Lets see how this ages.

 

[Bombshell11]

You think this draft is that deep?

Who are the top quality players you’re referring to at 15 and 24, as well as 31 and 37?

We’ve got too many prospects at this point and there is a 50 player limit. Eventually you have to trade some picks you can’t keep stacking them.

Why not trade some of the prospects then?

This draft year is full of exciting players and it is considered to be super deep

 

[Adriatic]

We should have some kind of virtual cookie jar for every time someone types in generational. That word should be banned for the next two weeks.

 

[MasterD]

And Mailloux will have a lot to show and prove before we start gluing him next to Guhle (who I can't say enough about as a 2way D)

You want him with Matheson? Harris? Xhekaj? Guhle is actually probably our best partner for him.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Why not trade some of the prospects then?

This draft year is full of exciting players and it is considered to be super deep

It’s deep in the top 15 or 20 but I don’t believe it’s deep in the later first round or early second. I’m happy to be proven wrong.

To answer your question though, you don’t trade your shiny new toys for slightly newer shiny new toys because eventually you need guys who will play in the NHL.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

Good thing there are some solid posters on here because the vast majority of you are so toxic, my goodness.

For one the Newhook trade was heavily criticized when from an asset standpoint, 16th overall in a pretty solid draft is better than these picks. For the people who were complaining about not waiting till the draft was ongoing for that trade, don't you think there is a reason why these so called studs drop all the way to those spots? In today's age with the information available, if a prospect drops (except for cases of group think like players being small or from Russia), it's best to start questioning yourself. I still remember when people were calling us the winner of the 2012 draft.

Now as for the topic at hand, the Habs didn't trade down because a) Arizona was clearly going to select Reinbacher and b) they clearly valued what Reinbacher would add to this team as a RHD and his skillset. The dude's resume is definitely legit and was a riser similarly to Seider. I think management is shrewd enough to be able to do what Yzerman did when he picked a player playing in a pro league who doesn't come from your standard NHL background (German/Austria and Swiss league vs DEL). Quit your bitching about Michkov when you haven't watched any actual games from these players. You're gonna drive away the actual draft junkies from this board while you're gonna remain quiet if ultimately you're proven wrong.

Management definitely has the right pieces in place as far as development to test out the theory on whether development truly matters. I think the right way to approach this would be for Reinbacher to play one more year in NLA, gain that experience as Top PP dude to develop offensive skills. Come over next year, start year in AHL and then come Xmas time, get called up .

Anyway sorry for the montée de lait but you guys are too much with this circle jerk of bashing players when you have an uneducated opinion especially if the idea behind who we picked as merit to build an actual legitimate contender, superstar at offense be damned.

 

[Deebs]

We should have some kind of virtual cookie jar for every time someone types in generational. That word should be banned for the next two weeks.

Should be banned every draft

Every year there’s a generational kid lol

 

[Bombshell11]

It’s deep in the top 15 or 20 but I don’t believe it’s deep in the later first round or early second. I’m happy to be proven wrong.

To answer your question though, you don’t trade your shiny new toys for slightly newer shiny new toys because eventually you need guys who will play in the NHL.

the guy at sportnet said the depth reached all the way up to the 50th pick (im paraphrasing) Im not going to pretend i know all the players but taking a quick glance, i have to agree.

 

[Redux91]

You want him with Matheson? Harris? Xhekaj? Guhle is actually probably our best partner for him.

Yeah they'll figure it out

 

[Habs Halifax]

Why not trade some of the prospects then?

This draft year is full of exciting players and it is considered to be super deep

Do you have any context or links indicating the super deep draft and how far it extends?

 

[Captain97]

since austria got relegated can he get loaned to germany for the world juniors? Basically the same country anyway.

I know this was a meme, but for half a second I was upset by this.

 

[Bombshell11]

Do you have any context or links indicating the super deep draft and how far it extends?

The last person i heard it from was from SPortsnet last night, one of the guys on the panel said this draft was 1 round and half deep, something like that.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The last person i heard it from was from SPortsnet last night, one of the guys on the panel said this draft was 1 round and half deep, something like that.

I would say from 16-50 ish is above average from your usual draft. It's back to normal now at 70+

 

[KevSkillz4]

Everyone should be happy with that pick after seeing this video!

 

[Bombshell11]

I would say from 16-50 ish is above average from your usual draft. It's back to normal now at 70+

im not sure, considering Benson was taken 13th... thats complete madness, i think the Gms believe this draft is extremely deep, there's a ton of euro players we don't have alot of context on, its hard to tell.

 

[Habs Halifax]

im not sure, considering Benson was taken 13th... thats complete madness, i think the Gms believe this draft is extremely deep, there's a ton of euro players we don't have alot of context on, its hard to tell.

I've heard it before. Not saying it's not true this time but we have heard this before over and over again. Remember, it's an evaluation on kids from age 14/15 to 17/18 and trying to project that forward when most of the development gains are from 18+ in terms of being Pro quality. Even the top scouts have less accuracy rates than the weather man.

Not trying to be negative. Just trying to be neutral and with fair expectations. From 50+, it's probably anybody's guess.

 

[First Line]

Come on guys, leave some of the outrage for when they announce he’s playing in the NHL this year

 

[BJCOLLINS]

You know i was talking for another junior player who is projected to go in the second round who sucks at D and at skating but is super good on the offense?

We drafted 3 x good D in the last 20 years, 2 in the first round and 1 on the second round. Mcdonaugh, Sergachev and Subban (the best of them all)

The only need we had at the D prospect pool was for a Right handed RD, not necessarily a top pairing RD. Instead of gambling on freaking Newhook and David Reinbacher we could of traded the 5th for the 15th + 24th + no1 Goalie prospect, Get our selfs 3 freaking top quality prospects in the first, 1 C, 1 Winger, 1 RD and on the second round get another top quality player. Maybe gamble on another RD? why not....

I do not hate Reinbacher but he's not a guaranteed top pairing D, we been hearing alot that Reinbacher was projected as a top 3/4 D.

I absolutly hate the Newhook deal though, i think we got fleeced on that one, i wont be surprised if 31 and 37 end up becoming stars in the NHL.

Adding insult to the injury... Hughes is walking around with Boston T-Shirts ? LIke wtf is going on here man...

Hey hey hey... wow la... lniaisage .... la la la la la

tse

Yeah the two of the 3 D you mentioned were traded early in their careers and barely or didnt play for the Habs they were traded for an old Gomez, a disastrous Drouin & PK for an aging Weber. Those are unforgivable trades by any standard. Also their defensive talents transcended the organizational dysfunction that was prevalent at the time. If you’re stating that “d is easily taught” go back to #1 draft picks Fischer, Tinordi, Beaulieu, Juulsen and many, many other picks?????

Guhle in 2020 is the first (solidified) quality drafted d on our roster since….what… Eric Desjardins 1987 2nd round? Keep in mind PK was derailed by a half-wit coach & egomaniac GM.

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[Bombshell11]

I've heard it before. Not saying it's not true this time but we have heard this before over and over again. Remember, it's an evaluation on kids from age 14/15 to 17/18 and trying to project that forward when most of the development gains are from 18+ in terms of being Pro quality. Even the top scouts have less accuracy rates than the weather man.

Not trying to be negative. Just trying to be neutral and with fair expectations. From 50+, it's probably anybody's guess.

oh yeah absolutely,

i welcome the pleasant exchange, you probably are right, its hard to tell

 

[NORiculous]

At least 6 teams do not see Michkov as generational.

Who are the 6 teams? You mean the ones who drafted Bedard, Carlsson, Smith, Fantilli?

So 6 management groups/administrations of professional sports teams whove been doing this job for years and years should all be sacked

And let me GUESS, they should hire you instead? Right?

Who are the 6 managements? The teams that drafted Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli, Smith?

Good thing Bedard wasn't passed over then.

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[OldCraig71]

This Reinbacker kid is going to win the Calder and the Norris in his first season and everyone will say they knew he had the potential to be a great one, not generational but great.

 

[FF de Mars]

Why not trade some of the prospects then?

This draft year is full of exciting players and it is considered to be super deep

I've heard the 2024 draft is better; at some point you have to factor hype! It's like an echo chamber, I strongly suggest you look into it because you seem like a young man and it might save you tons of problems if you figure it out that soon.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Just reading the Hughes transcript after the Reinbacher selection, and his assessment isn’t far off base. Said he doesn’t think Reinbacher will ever run a PP1 and probably is more of a D2 than D1. I think that is a fair assessment and kinda tells me they didn’t really love anyone available. Probably was desperately hoping one of those top 4 guys would fall.