Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Garo]

Actually, maybe some say that....but it's never what I'm saying. Pick the BPA. No matter the position. Then if you need to fill a position, trade. Pick the best player. Eventually...chances are the BPA will not ALWAYS be players of the same position.

But see I think that argument is a bit... lazy, because it never requires to define what exactly BPA is, and hockey is the only major sport where you see that stance for enough people without consideration of the positional value you get from it. If it's just "most skilled", well, clearly that's not true, because at some point someone very skilled will not be BPA to someone who plays a great allrounder game. Like, Owen Beck on skills was not worth drafting there, but people thought it was a strong pick very soon. So clearly to be BPA means you... need to have some tools over the competition.

I do get that trades can fill needs, but like, I think you discount how annoying relying on them can be. Obviously, there's what you are fine to give, then there's the team you deal with and what they want, and of course, there's contracts and cap space. Or you can just look at the draft and be like yo this guy projects as a really good right D and we can get him for free we probably should take a serious look at that. That's a lot easier than expecting other teams to play ball, and if they do in the future for a good deal, still great! You now have more prized value to work around.

For this draft... I'm not sure who has more value than Reinbacher at this spot. Michkov, obviously, but we're not coming out weeks before the draft saying "we haven't seen him all year lolol" if you plan to take him. I held out some hope, but realistically I wanted Reinbacher because I'm not sure what value was there that was so clearly better than him.

 

[Hinterland]

You may as well get upset now then. A great #2 is likely his ceiling. He has no real outstanding quality. Just above average to average all around.

You can't play the best draft season in Europe in the history of hockey (together with Dahlin) without outstanding qualities.

 

[SOLR]

Could be the next seider.

Could be the next Juolevi...

Juolevi was a pro call-of-duty player....not a hockey player.

That would be underwhelming for a 5th overall, wouldn't it?

Desjardins at 5? any day of the week. Desjardins was a 1-2D for more than 12 seasons.

 

[Bombshell11]

We shouldn’t put timeline on players, no one have the same progressions curve

lul

 

[OnTheRun]

You're playing with semantics when I was paraphrasing.

He also said this:

And it fall in line with what I just said.
IF he was blocked by ownership... then the guy doesn't exist as a potential pick.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Reinbacher actually reminds me a of Eric Desjardins, almost identical skill sets.

Reinbacher ready.... Guhle ready..... Reinbacher no shot.... on the outside... Reinbacher shot.. SCOOORRREE! THEY HAVE TIED IT!

 

[sampollock]

Kent is getting defensive

 

[badfish]

Not sure if it's been posted yet but I went to go pull scouts quotes from the Black Book about Reinbacher and there are not many positive ones. Many calling him overrated and not worthy of a top pick, many critical of his skills too. Then there is this gem:

"It's amazing to me how much it sounds like he is going to Montreal at five. It's not even Kent Hughes... it's guys above him" - NHL Scout, June 2023

Isn't there only Gorton and Molson above Hughes?

 

[MasterMatt25]

Maybe they can trade Mailloux now for offensive talent this organization lacks.

And who would we actually get with that? I am fairly confident Mailloux is not widely regarded around the league

 

[BenchBrawl]

And it fall in line with what I just said.
IF he was blocked by ownership... then the guy doesn't exist as a potential pick.

But he does exist. And then our wrath goes towards the owner. Which is exactly who I've questioned in this thread.

 

[Johnny31]

I feel like if both hit their potential Michkov being a 100 pts guy and Reinbacher being a 50 pts all around D . It will be really frustrating. I guess Reinbacher floor is a bit higher though.

Anyway… I think the saddest thing is I never saw a 100 pts fwd with the habs and now we know that we are not going to have one for a long time. It was maybe our chance to get it.

Maybe Reinbacher will equals more wins but I dont care to be honest. I wanted the exciting forward…. Lets see in the next few years.

While I do not agree with all the Hughes moves.I could always understand the logic. This one is hard to take in though.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I vividly remember Molson doing the "I'm sorry" PR dance, in panic, after the sponsors called him out publicly (led by St-Hubert) after the Mailloux pick. The whole thing was very humiliating.

I think at this point, since he's probably marked by the experience, he has become a liability for this organization from his PR risk-aversion. Like a boxer who had been knocked out too brutally, and is hesitant to go for it in the ring after that.

I saw you were very upset but I'm happy you can come with a very lucid explanation of the situation. That is a very clever post and I thank you for not being overlly emotional after such a deceptional draft (for you).

So yes, it's very possible Molson was emotionally marked by the Mailloux experience and he's maybe obsessed by the marketting of his nhl product. The management was maybe forced to take no risks at all and that explains that pick.

 

[Rapala]

I think Arizona is pretty mad at us for taking Reinbacher. I don’t think that was part of their script.

LOLOL I think selecting Skwirmashev shows just how rattled they were.

 

[Kaladin]

You can't play the best draft season in Europe in the history of hockey (together with Dahlin) without outstanding qualities.

Go ahead then list them out for me because everything I've seen nothing really stands out. A elevated steady eddie if I've ever seen one.

 

[Belial]

Kent is getting defensive

The honeymoon starting to wear out

 

[red devil]

They edited Price's introduction lol

 

[BenchBrawl]

I saw you were very upset but I'm happy you can come with a very lucid explanation of the sitaution. That is a very clever post and I thank you for not being overlly emotional after such a deceptional draft (for you).

So yes, it's very possible Molson was emotionally marked by the Mailloux experience and he's maybe obsessed by the marketting of his nhl product. The management was maybe forced to take no risks at all and that explains that pick.

I mean to this day their Twitter account has that ridiculous purple/pink color associated with it. A color which has nothing to do with the historical colors associated with this team, as the nickname itself says: Bleu-blanc-rouge.

It's obvious they panicked hardcore.

I thank you for the kind words.

 

[blarneylad]

You may as well get upset now then. A great #2 is likely his ceiling. He has no real outstanding quality. Just above average to average all around.

Seems like a guarantee top four. But I mean Brisebois was too so not sure about this one

 

[Jee]

Anyone with a link from his interview? I was watching SN and they did not talk to him.

 

[Rapala]

RHD with talent is a precious commodity.

Most important after center according to many. Fletcher mentioned it immediately after the pick.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Not sure if it's been posted yet but I went to go pull scouts quotes from the Black Book about Reinbacher and there are not many positive ones. Many calling him overrated and not worthy of a top pick, many critical of his skills too. Then there is this gem:

"It's amazing to me how much it sounds like he is going to Montreal at five. It's not even Kent Hughes... it's guys above him" - NHL Scout, June 2023

Isn't there only Gorton and Molson above Hughes?

This is the work of a charlatan, let's not give this garbage any more exposure.

The "Black Book" lol

Not meant to be a shot at you, sorry if it comes across as that, I just hate these fake scouting publications.

 

[Hinterland]

Go ahead then list them out for me because everything I've seen nothing really stands out. A elevated steady eddie if I've ever seen one.

I already did in this thread and many others. Reinbacher is the exact opposite of steady Eddie. How many games of his did you watch?

 

[BenchBrawl]

Let's say they really, deeply believed Reinbacher was the best player available. They would respond aggressively in their conviction to the questions being asked. Is that what's happening now? What's happening, when you check the Twitter, is it looks like a Soviet propaganda journal. Like behind every tweet there's an elephant in the room that is not being spoken. This energy transpires through the screen.

You didn't want to risk the PR? Go ahead and admit it. Don't gaslight us.

You really believed Reinbacher was the best player? Be persuasive. Make us feel it in our bones when you speak. This is not happening now.

 

[Belial]

Hard to quantify the effect of a Desjardins clone as his overall contribution is greater than the stat sheet would suggest. I have previously compared him to Hanifin as well which would be underwhelming at 5 OA in a stacked draft.

This pick may not age well in the court of public opinion but dmen are notoriously difficult to project. If he ends up as a decent 2nd pair RHD it will not be a good look but if he becomes a legit #1 RHD then it will be more than fine....I suspect he ends up somewhere in between and will be the center of much consternation on this board for years to come.

He isn't the pick that I wanted but I can live with it and move on as he is a great fit.

If he develops into a 25 minutes all-around solid minute-munching D I don't think anyone will be complaining.

 

[Deam78]

Where is Hughes' interview