Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Belial]

RHD with talent is a precious commodity.

Yes Petry was amazing for us

 

[Hinterland]

Pump the brakes with the hyperbolic hot takes. Generational........really? Why litter the boards with this stuff?.

As a player? No. In those areas? Yes. I don't think there are many defensemen currently in the NHL with better combo of mobility/passing/vision. And Reinbacher (hopefully) isn't a finished product just yet. He only just got drafted.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Reinbacher actually reminds me a of Eric Desjardins, almost identical skill sets.

 

[Kaladin]

Powder keg in here.

The Intel at the combine lines up with what Hughes said. Teams were calling but for Reinbacher at 5. They see Reinbacher as a future top pair defenseman.

They said if they had players in the same tier, their position would come into play. Feel that's clear from his comments that Reinbacher was in the tier after 4 and his positional value and projection put him to the top. Leonard being a winger probably busted that part of the evaluation.

Coyotes taking a Russian over Michkov shows that maybe some scouts aren't so sure Michkov is Kucherov rather a Tarasenko. Which was something many scouts were posing.

Pretty sure Hughes said he believed "some" of the teams that were calling for the pick at 5 wanted Reinbacher. Not all. Clearly Philly for one wanted Michkov and were rumored to have offered to move up to 5.

Continue building that narrative in your head though. Coyotes took a defensemen because they clearly had decided to take a defensemen and thought the russian stuff was BS so just picked the next best D on their list. A refreshing take from a NHL group at just valuing talent as opposed to nationality.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I came into this draft thinking with our connections through Bobrov to SKA that if we pass on Michkov there are reasons beyond the geopolitical take.
For me he doesn't exude the same aura of dedication work ethic and desire Connor Bedard puts forth. Maybe that will change down the road but talent is not enough on it's own to reach the height's of greatness you claim to see in him. It's not like he'd be the first exceptional U 18 player to drop.
So if he wasn't BPA on our list I'm not in a position to argue it. I wanted Leonard if we passed on him but this pick is completely logical to me if we work back from what parts would be required to build a Stanley Cup contender. Unfortunately we have to do that one piece at a time and Matvei obviously didn't make the grade.

I just don't believe a word that Kent Hugues said about Reinbacher being the most talented prospect on their list available at 5th. The narrative even cracked when he hazarded himself in the right-handed vs. left-handed discussion.

I don't believe him.

I think Molson didn't want to draft the Russian.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my conviction.

 

[dinodebino]

Yes Petry was amazing for us

I mean talent with a brain.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I think Arizona is pretty mad at us for taking Reinbacher. I don’t think that was part of their script.

Thanks ! At least we scr*w up another team. Not just the fans who were mad at this management, but another team. Little consolation. We are strong with little in general here, lol.

 

[MasterMatt25]

I just don't believe a word that Kent Hugues said about Reinbacher being the most talented prospect on their list available at 5th.

I don't believe him.

I think Molson didn't want to draft the Russian.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my conviction.

I agree I don't think he wanted Michkov. Because of that, him and the scouts started focusing more on everyone else

 

[dinodebino]

Reinbacher actually reminds me a of Eric Desjardins, almost identical skill sets.

Interesting.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Reinbacher-Barron is a solid RD base. Maybe Mailloux can complete that if he grows and the league lets him in

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

Popcorn's doppelganger.

 

[Whitesnake]

Last year we were fine picking a winger because we could just get one of the high value centres in 2023. Now we're mad we didn't pick a winger this year and a defender in the next and our centres look mostly fine.

I get that needs can obviously change, though I would say there's a difference between "needs now" and "needs for a successful team". What I do not get though is why it's not a good strategy to project your needs but a good one to project your draft strategy so far in advance.

Actually, maybe some say that....but it's never what I'm saying. Pick the BPA. No matter the position. Then if you need to fill a position, trade. Pick the best player. Eventually...chances are the BPA will not ALWAYS be players of the same position.

 

[Guy Larose]

Speaking of Molson, I don't know all the owners, so is he the only fanboy owner that goes to all these events looking like he needs control of it all?

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

As a player? No. In those areas? Yes. I don't think there are many defensemen currently in the NHL with better combo of mobility/passing/vision. And Reinbacher (hopefully) isn't a finished product just yet. He only just got drafted.

Definitely not generational in any area.

He is currently good at everything but not necessarily great at anything, perhaps he will prove to be great in some areas but anointing him as generational in anything just doesn't make senses at this point in his development.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Well, if he's Desjardins, just trade him for Recchi and throw in LeClair just for the lolz.

 

[dinodebino]

I just don't believe a word that Kent Hugues said about Reinbacher being the most talented prospect on their list available at 5th. The narrative even cracked when he hazarded himself in the right-handed vs. left-handed discussion.

I don't believe him.

I think Molson didn't want to draft the Russian.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my conviction.

Well, they need his approval so it could be.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I agree I don't think he wanted Michkov. Because of that, him and the scouts started focusing more on everyone else

Well obviously they didn't want michkov. But it was because they didn't like the player, not his nationality.

 

[salbutera]

They had some autonomy in the 1970's. Montreal had no real advantage in that era over the other teams. We were just smarter, better at development and talent evaluation, and the shrewdest GM in the league.

Regardless, you play for ~10 years. They still made great salaries. That they were poor is a myth, even in Maurice Richard's days. And even before Maurice Richard.

From the 1950s onwards Habs paid their stars handsomely better than any other team. Le Gros Bill was making more than Howe… as a rookie which was the price to pay to sign him, on top of buying the Quebec Sr league itself.

The Habs were the first team to implement deferred compensation scheme.

 

[WentWughes]

I don't buy we drafted for need. We are full loaded with Ds. Maybe not as good as Rein but we are full. On the other side, we still are poor in center and offensive in general. And the goalies too. To me, if they drafted a D it's because they saw him as BPA.

We have need for a RHD that is a concrete fact, in fact on paper it is our biggest need.

 

[Kaladin]

Did Anaheim, cbj, San Jose and Arizona also all draft for need? Or did they actually feel that their choices were better talents than michkov?

Arizona definitely did. As did CBJ. The former wanted a D and CBJ wanted a C. Michkov falls into neither category. Which leaves SJ and Anaheim. They probably felt they were similar tiers of talent which no one has really disputed around here Frank. Fantilii and Carlsson will be excellent players in their own right. Stars even. Most of us and many scouts feel Michkov is just a bit better talent wise. The contract length probably gave the other two the leg up.

It's not rocket science. For the Habs on the other hand we drafted need and much lesser talent. A joke.

 

[Whitesnake]

Guhle, Reinbacher, Hutson and Mailloux certainly form a potentially elite top 4.

For that to happen, Mailloux and Hutson will need to correct their defensive deficiencies. We are not there yet. So yes, it's potentially there. But not a gimme.

 

[Le Tricolore]

Yes Petry was amazing for us

I mean, he was. He wasn't amazing in his own zone but Petry was pretty great for most of his time in Montreal

 

[dinodebino]

Speaking of Molson, I don't know all the owners, so is he the only fanboy owner that goes to all these events looking like he needs control of it all?

He’s the prez. Not many owners are prez.

 

[OnTheRun]

I just don't believe a word that Kent Hugues said about Reinbacher being the most talented prospect on their list available at 5th. The narrative even cracked when he hazarded himself in the right-handed vs. left-handed discussion.

I don't believe him.

I think Molson didn't want to draft the Russian.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my conviction.

If Molson didn't want to draft the Russian, then the Russian WASN'T on their list.
So at that point we are right back where they started with Reinbacher being the most talented prospect on their list.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Interesting.

Both mobile RHD's with good size who play a complete game but are not top tier offensive players and will use the body but rely more on positioning and anticipation than raw brute force.