Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[le_sean]

Theres another side to the coin being overlooked.

Those were also times of players having zero autonomy, and no options. It’s ironic the Habs have mightly struggled post 1994 lockout once player autonomy started ramping up & they had more say & control over where they wished to play

This market is different. You need players that want it. Like Subban and Price. Look at the Leafs, they drafted based on talent but those guys happen to be mental midgets. We are in a unique situation with it being the only sports team in a massive sports market.

 

[JoelWarlord]

I'm a big believer in his upside so very happy to end up with him. It's not the sexiest pick and I definitely understand the desire for an elite scoring talent but I think Reinbacher will win people over.

Just a really tantalizing profile, if you're familiar with baseball scouting terminology he's basically just a guy with 60 grades everywhere and on a steep upward trajectory.

 

[Kaladin]

https://twitter.com/ArponBasu

Hughes now pedalling back on his comments.....after Basu pointed out that his comments made him look onlyl like a need...

They drafted for need lol. It's obvious. RIP BPA. Not a concept for this management.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Seems like they wanted a D no matter what. They were rumoured to be very interested in Reinbacher so they took the next one on their list I guess.

I don't think so. In guess Arz was not on Mihkov's list so they took another player instead and coincidence he's russian and coincidence he's a defenseman. They could have drafted Michkov and trade him after if he didn't want to come to Arz. But why Arz would go into such trouble? They dratfed another player that's all.

 

[Belial]

Hughes said it wasn’t for need, pushing back at Arpon.

It probably still had some influence on the final decision IMO.

 

[Xirik]

When is he projected to be ready for NHL duty and for that matter play top pair minutes?

He's at the "perhaps to good for the AHL but the NHL might be a difficult jump stage" like Slafkovsky. If he is in the AHL he probably see's 2nd pairing minutes with PP1 time at the start

If he goes straight to the NHL its probably 3rd pairing and perhaps PP2 minutes at the start.


After that who knows.

 

[Garo]

You take what is offered. Don't understand to pick Reinbacher for need NOW when there's plenty of D's that will be available next year. It's not like Reinbacher comes in in September.

I will never understand treating a draft as if it's the UFA period...

Last year we were fine picking a winger because we could just get one of the high value centres in 2023. Now we're mad we didn't pick a winger this year and a defender in the next and our centres look mostly fine.

I get that needs can obviously change, though I would say there's a difference between "needs now" and "needs for a successful team". What I do not get though is why it's not a good strategy to project your needs but a good one to project your draft strategy so far in advance.

 

[Hinterland]

I agree they are very different. Seider is taller, rangier (incredible wingspan), more dynamic skater, more creative, and handles the puck like a forward.

Reinbacher is better defensively and has good offensive tools, but Seiders tools are special.

Reinbacher is by far the better skater. Seider may have decent foot speed but Reinbacher is way more mobile. It's that mobility that allows him to make those quick quality passes when there's no time and space.

Seider is better than Reinbacher defensively though. Reinbacher himself says he needs to work on his game against the puck. He knows he's got elite passing and skating but said he needs to hit the gym and work on positioning against the puck. He's over aggressive far too often. Seider used to have a similar problem but I think it was more of a desire to go for big hits or a lack of consistency/concentration than faulty positioning in general.

I think people need to understand that Reinbacher is an offensive defenseman with elite tools and (if anything) defensive flaws and not the other way around. This may not be clear at first sight because he doesn't like to carry the puck or do fancy stuff with it and his preference for making fast plays. However, those passes require skill as well and they lead to offense. He's also very adventureous without the puck, both with his team and the opposition in possession. He's not a defensive defenseman. A defensive minded coach is gonna prefer Seider over Reinbacher, I can tell you that

 

[Frank Drebin]

They drafted for need lol. It's obvious. RIP BPA. Not a concept for this management.

Did Anaheim, cbj, San Jose and Arizona also all draft for need? Or did they actually feel that their choices were better talents than michkov?

 

[JT3]

What teams out there have a deeper pool of young D than us?

Maybe Anaheim. Possibly none.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

What teams out there have a deeper pool of young D than us?

Guhle, Reinbacher, Hutson and Mailloux certainly form a potentially elite top 4.

 

[Guy Larose]

Hoping Michkov becomes Yakupov 2.0

That could very well happen as well. The KHL is not what it used to be, so how strong is it really? And he's the same height as Bedard but 30lbs lighter? I'd be afraid he'd get demolished out there. The boys in the NHL play rough.

 

[SlafySZN]

Didn’t want a defenseman in this draft. Everyone knows Smith or Leonard were my choices.

But, i’m sure Reinbacher will be a great player for us. Seems like a bright, mature kid. I’m happy he’s gonna stay in switzerland for at least another year.

 

[Koivu11]

I don't think so. In guess Arz was not on Mihkov's list so they took another player instead and coincidence he's russian and coincidence he's a defenseman. They could have drafted Michkov and trade him after if he didn't want to come to Arz. But why Arz would go into such trouble? They dratfed another player that's all.

Not sure what you’re talking about.

 

[dinodebino]

What teams out there have a deeper pool of young D than us?

Good point. In two years from now, that pool will prove its value..in trading for offensive assets?

 

[nhlfan9191]

I don't think so. In guess Arz was not on Mihkov's list so they took another player instead and coincidence he's russian and coincidence he's a defenseman. They could have drafted Michkov and trade him after if he didn't want to come to Arz. But why Arz would go into such trouble? They dratfed another player that's all.

I think Arizona is pretty mad at us for taking Reinbacher. I don’t think that was part of their script.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Whether you preferred Michkov, Leonard or not, we have him now. Let's hope he can develop and then some. Welcome to Montreal David

 

[Rapala]

Absolutely unbelievable.

We might have missed on Matvei Michkov because Reinbacher is right-handed.

BPA my ass.

I came into this draft thinking with our connections through Bobrov to SKA that if we pass on Michkov there are reasons beyond the geopolitical take.
For me he doesn't exude the same aura of dedication work ethic and desire Connor Bedard puts forth. Maybe that will change down the road but talent is not enough on it's own to reach the height's of greatness you claim to see in him. It's not like he'd be the first exceptional U 18 player to drop.
So if he wasn't BPA on our list I'm not in a position to argue it. I wanted Leonard if we passed on him but this pick is completely logical to me if we work back from what parts would be required to build a Stanley Cup contender. Unfortunately we have to do that one piece at a time and Matvei obviously didn't make the grade.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

He fills a huge need no question we need a 1 RHD since pk and Weber are no longer here. The only part that stings is we clearly drafted based on need rather than on BPA and potential. We will have other kicks at the can next year and the year following though. Hopefully the coming years aren’t influenced by needs or size and exclusively best player available. Same story different year unfortunately.

I don't buy we drafted for need. We are full loaded with Ds. Maybe not as good as Rein but we are full. On the other side, we still are poor in center and offensive in general. And the goalies too. To me, if they drafted a D it's because they saw him as BPA.

 

[dinodebino]

It probably still had some influence on the final decision IMO.

RHD with talent is a precious commodity.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Theres another side to the coin being overlooked.

Those were also times of players having zero autonomy, and no options. It’s ironic the Habs have mightly struggled post 1994 lockout once player autonomy started ramping up & they had more say & control over where they wished to play

They had some autonomy in the 1970's. Montreal had no real advantage in that era over the other teams. We were just smarter, better at development and talent evaluation, and the shrewdest GM in the league.

Regardless, you play for ~10 years. They still made great salaries. That they were poor is a myth, even in Maurice Richard's days. And even before Maurice Richard.

 

[WeThreeKings]

This is the other piece of the picture people are missing. We have great young forwards who are just scratching the surface.

 

[Xirik]

Hoping Michkov becomes Yakupov 2.0

10 years from now Hughes is going to tell the story of "how Mithkov's interview was so bad that the scouts wanted to fight him"

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I know they say Reinbacher is 6'2. But standing next to Price Reinbacher was taller and Pricey is 6'3

That’s because Price was slumped down in shame.

It’s okay Carey, happens to everyone.

 

[Vachon23]

Can't see it, 5 or 6 teams wanted him

Executive and coach values way more those type of players then fans who want to see nice deke and Lacrosse goal