Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Lafleurs Guy]

It’s easier to play big when guys around you are smaller. It won’t be the case in the NHL.

Guhle got injured a lot trying to do that…

It’s also easier to play big when your teammates are big. One thing I like about our D is that it’s a big strong group. Hutson’s the only Smurf.

 

[JT3]

KH: We picked Reinbacher 'cause we believe he's top 2 material and for us, he was just the best player out there

KH: We picked Reinbacher 'cause we wanted to add a RD to our lineup and he was the best player to do so.

Same player. Different strategy. Whether we agree or not, if Habs THINK that Reinbacher was the BPA....he was THEN the BEST PLAYER.

But Hughes does NOT sell him that way right now. It's that simple.

Hughes hasn't given me any indication to this point to think that's he stupid enough to disregard quality purely for need. Fact of the matter is that Reinbacher is good enough to go where he did AND he was a need. People can daydream about Michkov being a generational player all they want but generational players don't get picked at 7.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Well, star RHD are a rare commodity. I understand that. Championship teams have been built with that too.

It saddens me that we did not get the potential offensive star. Really does.

I don’t think I’m in left field when I write that HuGo want to build a foundation based on the same principles the Booins have carried over the last decades. David seems to fit the mold.

I agree, but for example Robinson, Savard and Lapointe were all left-handed. It's not a hard rule that you need one.

We had two great RHS defensemen in the last decade: Subban and Weber. How many forward superstars we had? Kovalev for a short time.

So who is really more difficult to come by?

 

[Garo]

NHL scouts love drafting for need. That’s what they do. We’ve been doing it for like ever.

Just tonight 8 D went and 3 in the top 11. Ludicrous. Simashev? Wallinder?

The answer is there; they draft by need.

And honestly, you need to do it to an extent. You can't always rely on trades to fill needs, especially those on high demands, and FAs are notoriously overpaid, worse in the cap era.

If you look at Reinbacher and you go:

- does a right D in his style fill an important need for a nhl team? yes
- do we have anything like him in the pipeline? no
- do we have another way we can reasonably fill that need in the near future? no

then it makes total sense to give him a higher priority. You can go wrong by going for a more need oriented approach (reaching for size or physicality is historically bad, despite being "needs"), but so can you with "BPA", whichever way you define that.

 

[red devil]

Because I think he is a good mixte of both

Bigger stronger then Nemec and better defensively and better skater then Jiricek

Thanks for the info David St. Louis with Eliteprospects sees Reinbacher's game similar as you vs Nemec and Jiricek.

 

[Whitesnake]

Simply put- they said they’d take the player with the most talent. They didn’t.

Well, that, I don't agree. Having the best talent is not the best player. Some say Cristall has insane talent. Yet, still not picked. Because he still needs to be a player. I do not equal talent as BPA. Not necessarily. It's another debate. It,s BPA vs Need that is the debate. Always.

Frankly, starting to think that some scouts in that team have more power than they should.....timmins and Cie aren't there and yet, mentality still is.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

KH: We picked Reinbacher 'cause we believe he's top 2 material and for us, he was just the best player out there

KH: We picked Reinbacher 'cause we wanted to add a RD to our lineup and he was the best player to do so.

Same player. Different strategy. Whether we agree or not, if Habs THINK that Reinbacher was the BPA....he was THEN the BEST PLAYER.

But Hughes does NOT sell him that way right now. It's that simple.

Where can I find Hughes comments? Have been looking online but can’t find anything post Reinbacher selection.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

I will say this. As disappointed as I am with the pick, the Coyotes made be feel a lot better immediately after.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Started looking at some clips on YouTube. He did look impressive, reading the play, controlling the gap (like Ghule), moving the puck. And seemed big on the ice.

I saw all this a month ago and commented here there's an interrestind D who's name is Reinbacher but nobody noticed or watched any videos. Seems like after watching Michkov or Smith, nobody watched any player.

 

[sampollock]

Can't see it, 5 or 6 teams wanted him

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

A top 4 D.
Plus Slaf.

The leafs got matthews and marner in their tank years.

Lucky leafs

 

[Et le But]

You think he has Seider/Heiskanen level tools?

Yes, he does, there's more exciting athletes for sure but he definitely has 1D upside. This is a guy who dominated play at 18.

I like the pick better than a 5'11" power forward in Leonard. He would have been my second choice at that spot, only problem is what we passed on.

 

[Tutu to]

 

[salbutera]

 

[InAG-P]

I know they say Reinbacher is 6'2. But standing next to Price Reinbacher was taller and Pricey is 6'3

 

[Adriatic]

So has everybody calmed down yet??

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Most of them won't remember the Big Three. We don't have that but no one would in a capped league.

They were special.

And hearing Danny Gallivan’s voice describe them was magical. “A Savardian Spinnerama, at the Blueline,” “Larry Robinson picks up speed behind his net, around one Bruin, dipsy doodles past another, and lets loose with a cannonading drive….” “Lapointe moves the puck rather gingerly behind the net”

Everyone (from that era) remembers when Robinson beat the shit out of Hammer Schultz, but few remember that Big Serge also got mad one night and beat Schultz rather handily as well. Pointu was a lot better with his gloves on than off but wouldn’t back down either.

 

[red devil]

Hughes goes more in depth on the potential they see in Reinbacher

 

[dinodebino]

I agree, but for example Robinson, Savard and Lapointe were all left-handed. It's not a hard rule that you need one.

We had two great RHS defensemen in the last decade: Subban and Weber. How many forward superstars we had? Kovalev for a short time.

So who is really more difficult to come by?

I think Tit-cul is a star. He’ll pounce in 40 goals next season.

 

[Whitesnake]

You take what is offered. Don't understand to pick Reinbacher for need NOW when there's plenty of D's that will be available next year. It's not like Reinbacher comes in in September.

I will never understand treating a draft as if it's the UFA period...

 

[BenchBrawl]

I wanted it too man. You’re young. I lived through the glory years. I lived with my idol (see avatar). I miss that period where winning with flair was everything. I do.

I'm old enough to remember when this team had dignity and a drive to win cups, a winning mentality. They were not glorious like from 1944-1979, but they were going for it.

I hear you though. I know you see my point, I just need to vent I guess.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Do we have a Kent Hughes discussion thread? I feel it's time

 

[BenchBrawl]

I think Tit-cul is a star. He’ll pounce in 40 goals next season.

Possibly. He needs to take another step but he's the closest since Kovy for sure.

 

[River Meadow]

Hughes goes more in depth on the potential they see in Reinbacher

Bustbacher is our future #1 Dman

Let's goOOoOoOoOoO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dinodebino]

I saw all this a month ago and commented here there's an interrestind D who's name is Reinbacher but nobody noticed or watched any videos. Seems like after watching Michkov or Smith, nobody watched any player.

As an infamous president said: it is what it is.