Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[BJCOLLINS]

If Reinbacher can match Roman Josi game then Hugo nailed it & I’ll apologize for suggesting BPA was Michkov he can rise or fall, no matter. I do remember watching Reinbacher at the WJC and he was Austria’s best & most physical player. Sam Pollock always preached a team must choose BPA, in the order of #1 C,#1 RHD, #1 LHD & very seldom #1 G, We got #1 RHD in this draft, IMHO.

we are a better team now and moving forward….make no mistake Newhook has the ability to rack up 25g-25a seasons in his sleep & he and this kid will be an important pieces moving forward, championship teams need players of their makeup. Reinbacher 2-3 years away with Hutson & Mailloux. We have a beast of a D-Core soon to emerge. Thanks, cheers.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I want to remind people the last time everyone here was this enamored with a forward, we actually drafted him: Alex Galchenyuk

What's he doing nowadays? Oh, he's being shipped around to half the league and may not even get a contract. Meanwhile, the defenseman a lot of people turned their nose up at has curved out a very successful career in Toronto.

None of this is to say history will repeat itself. This could quite easily blow up in Hughes face. We simply won't know until both players crack the NHL—if they even do.

The point I'm making is it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too early to be blowing a gasket and declaring Hughes the dumbest GM in Habs history.

True but Galchenyuk is still Top 5 in points within his draft class, and only behind Morgan Rielly from those picked inside the Top 5.

THAT draft, was beyond mediocre.

Even Filip Forsberg, the leading scorer, is very up and down. He never took that next step consistently.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I did have Reinbacher ahead of Leonard but not drafting Michkov hurts. They better be f***ing right that Michkov won't translate/come over here and that Reinbacher becomes a Heiskanen/Seider. A #4 dman would be a disaster of a pick for #5.

I wonder if there is something else at work here with Michkov. If Arizona was ok with drafting a Russian, how in the world did they go for a D and not Michkov???

 

[Bombshell11]

That's the definition of a damn stud!

Solid all-around minute munching? ...Who do you think we drafted? Roman Josi?

Have you seen him play? He's got a long way to get there

 

[jrom]

A top 4 D.
Plus Slaf.

The leafs got matthews and marner in their tank years.

not sure where this argument is heading because so far they don’t have much to show in their contending years

 

[Bombshell11]

So funny looking back on this. Pierre hates the pick “they have so many other needs…”

Bobby M chimes in - they could’ve drafted Mark Staal or Brule… he does mention Kopitar but damn, it’s funny listening to this. McGuire hates it because it’s not what they NEED. Totally overlooks the talent and BPA factor.

And now they did the exact opposite

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

This dude is Phillip Danault's clone, he was made to play for us. What a cutie.

Lol, Danault is this kid with the beard of Plume Latraverse.
Phil doesn't have a beard. He just eat a beaver and didn't washed his face.

 

[Rapala]

This is the pick guys, I’m disappointed as well but it’s a little early to call this pick a bad one. Let the kid show what he has.

Let's get him to camp at the very least and see how he reacts to the pace. I remember some people were harping on Ghule and his first camp showed what he could become.

 

[OnTheRun]

For me it’s not so much about Reinbacher the player, it’s about where he was taken who he was drafted over.

It’s a high floor, low ceiling “safe” selection, a guy who certainly fits the bill as a #3 or #4 all-around D.

But the feeling of drafting a player like this is COMPLETELY different when we’re talking say the 20th overall pick vs the 5th overall pick.

Not saying this player in this draft is making it there, but it’s the kind of player that is just plain “meh” as it stands right now as a 5th overall pick in a deep forward draft. Remember, this is a team that is lacking in high end offensive skill.

Another year of bullshit hockey to end up with a 2nd pairing defenseman as your top 5 pick. No knock on the kid, but how on earth is that not viewed as underwhelming?

He's not a low ceiling "safe selection", you can argue that his ceiling is lower than Michkov, fine. But that doesn't make him a low ceiling safe pick and calling him so is asinine.

 

[Habz4]

This pick boils down to whether you prefer Hedman or Kucherov if you had to choose, assuming both have the chance to get there.

I see it more of a Josi or Kaprizov

 

[Belial]

Solid all-around minute munching? ...Who do you think we drafted? Roman Josi?

Have you seen him play? He's got a long way to get there

He was drafted 5th overall in a heavy forward draft! I f***ing hope they damn project him to be the next Josi type....

 

[admiralcadillac]

Is it really possible neither FLyers nor Caps offered any asset to trade up and switch with us?

Reinbacher better be much, much better than Barron and Mailloux to use a 5OA on him.

I think he will be, but I wanted a Russian dynamo. More exciting.

If you told me Seider or Kaprizov I’d choose Kaprizov but Seider is ultimately who you’d win with.

 

[MasterD]

My pessimism is rooted in one simple statistic: you win cups with elite players. The Habs haven't had an elite F or a true 1C in my lifetime, so to witness a rebuild for the first time and see them squander those opportunities is heart wrenching.

Amen.

I don't know this kid too much. What is it that you don't like about him.

I like your openness and curiosity. Ask questions before you bitch. Sorely missed on these boards, kudos!

 

[jrom]

Ok, give me more ammo here. Sell him to me. Because telling me that he can get the puck out of his zone and to the other zone quickly is not saying much. Harris can do that. And he's a 6th.

Doing the same as you (reading up on him), this David St-Louis video was worth watching.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

And now they did the exact opposite

Yep it would seem so.

Hopefully they know what they’re doing. Maybe they know his work ethic sucks, or he was an idiot in the interview… we probably won’t ever know.

Last year it seemed that Wright was a shot at an elite scorer but maybe not. And we could see it again. We won’t know for a while.

 

[NotProkofievian]

He was drafted 5th overall in a heavy forward draft! I f***ing hope they damn project him to be the next Josi type....

What he did this year is comparable to what Josi did in his D+1 year. Reinbacher has the best D year ever for a defenseman in the NL.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Maybe we should of drafted Michkov just to see a few dandy goals to make most fans happy.. sure let's just load up our forward group and be like the Leafs..all flash up front and nothing on the back end.
That obviously works so well for them.
Once we get rid of our putred contracts we'll be able to trade for a star forward or two and by that time our young D core and young forwards will be a little more seasoned.
Some people seem to think if we got michkov we'll only be 1 or 2 more players away from cup contention.
We all need to take a breath. I wanted Michkov as well but perhaps this was actually the right pick.

I wanted to draft Michkov to trade him later, or we could have traded down right away with a team that wanted Michkov like Philly or Washington. Is it really possible they offered almost nothing to move up?

Maybe the thinking was this - we don't need another second or third line forward, and we don't need to waste 7OA or 8OA on a goalie. Hughes decided he did not want to draft Michkov himself - too risky. He also decided that Reinbacher was his best D by a significant margin and was fairly sure Arizona wanted a D and would have taken Reinbacher if we did not.

 

[Garbageyuk]

This pick means that management thinks that a center line up of Suzuki, Dach, Newhook, and Evans is enough to contend when the time comes. We the fans may disagree, but it’s obvious that’s what management is thinking. It also means they think Reinbacher can become a #1 D in the NHL; they wouldn’t have picked him if they thought he was anything less.

After thinking it over, and coming to this conclusion, I don’t hate the pick as much as I thought. A lot hinges on the potential of the players mentioned above though, and that’s a lot of ifs:

•If Suzuki continues developing and becomes a legit 1C

•If Dach develops into a 2C or better

•If Newhook can add some defense, grit, or utility (faceoffs) to his game to become a solid 3C (his production is borderline 3C level already)

•If Reinbacher becomes a legit two-way #1D

Those are the big ones. Will every one of those happen? Probably not, but if two or three of those are realized, we are in very good shape because the team has been stockpiling depth at all positions and some of the other prospects and young players not mentioned here will pan out.

One thing is for sure though; the prospect pool is extremely deep at the D and W positions. And maybe we add an elite C prospect next year.

The rebuild is going well, imo. No need to freak out over one pick.

 

[Garo]

So funny looking back on this. Pierre hates the pick “they have so many other needs…”

Bobby M chimes in - they could’ve drafted Mark Staal or Brule… he does mention Kopitar but damn, it’s funny listening to this. McGuire hates it because it’s not what they NEED. Totally overlooks the talent and BPA factor.

To be honest, you can easily make the argument Price wasn't the BPA there. Not one had him that high, he was close with Rask for a lot of people, you can't really find an objective definition of BPA that works for picking Price.

What you find though, is how the Habs projected Price. And this is why McGuire looks so dumb here, because he defines "needs" as "they have players in that position I can name" but for the Habs, they never had a goalie like Price. Hence why Gainey bent over backwards multiple times to get Price to be successful, why Gauthier immediately traded Halak, because in their mind they needed Price to compete. And it wasn't wrong, despite failing to build a team around him during his prime.

So the Habs picked Price because they thought you needed a goalie like him. And that made him the BPA. I remember people here comparing him and Crosby to Lemieux and Roy lol, saying that hey, if you have a goalie that can steal you a cup, that's pretty much as valuable. That's also seeing it as a need.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I don't see Hedman when I watch him play though...

He’s not Hedman, not even close. He’s more of an Ekholm type.

 

[Gravity]

Am I happy with Reinbacher? Yes. Am I happy with Reinbac

This pick means that management thinks that a center line up of Suzuki, Dach, Newhook, and Evans is enough to contend when the time comes. We the fans may disagree, but it’s obvious that’s what management is thinking. It also means they think Reinbacher can become a #1 D in the NHL; they wouldn’t have picked him if they thought he was anything less.

After thinking it over, and coming to this conclusion, I don’t hate the pick as much as I thought. A lot hinges on the potential of the players mentioned above though, and that’s a lot of ifs:

•If Suzuki continues developing and becomes a legit 1C

•If Dach develops into a 2C or better

•If Newhook can add some defense, grit, or utility (faceoffs) to his game to become a solid 3C (his production is borderline 3C level already)

•If Reinbacher becomes a legit two-way #1D

Those are the big ones. Will every one of those happen? Probably not, but if two or three of those are realized, we are in very good shape because the team has been stockpiling depth at all positions and some of the other prospects and young players not mentioned here will pan out.

One thing is for sure though; the prospect pool is extremely deep at the D and W positions. And maybe we add an elite C prospect next year.

The rebuild is going well, imo. No need to freak out over one pick.

Imo, Suzuki is Hischier and Dach is Ryan Johansen. Neither are cup winning 1Cs.

 

[MasterD]

Doesn't sounds like this guy has a mean bone in his body. You'd think a guy like this would at least have a mean streak.

Being tall/big has NOTHING to do with having a mean streak.

You have guys like Bouillon hitting everything that moves and guys like Hall Gill that focus on being positionally sound.

This pick means that management thinks that a center line up of Suzuki, Dach, Newhook, and Evans is enough to contend when the time comes. We the fans may disagree, but it’s obvious that’s what management is thinking. It also means they think Reinbacher can become a #1 D in the NHL; they wouldn’t have picked him if they thought he was anything less.

That, or maybe they really think Monahan can be healthy. He was great in the games he played last year.

 

[Kaladin]

Solid all-around minute munching? ...Who do you think we drafted? Roman Josi?

Have you seen him play? He's got a long way to get there

I love it, People who are hyping him up to be worthy of a 5th overall pick in this draft are asking those who feel he doesn't have #1 upside if they've seen him play and vice versa. Clearly people are coming to some very different conclusions watching the same games.

Honestly wish we could go back in time and grab Jiricek last year and Michkov this year. Would be much happier with that collective haul then what we've ended up with.

 

[Whitesnake]

First meeting on the way....

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Doing the same as you (reading up on him), this David St-Louis video was worth watching.

This is a great video, but I think it’s responsible for the constant Seider comps. If you watch until the end he clearly states Reinbacher doesn’t have Seiders insane toolkit.

It must feel like I’m harping on Reinbacher, but it’s just this one point. I do think he is a very advanced RD who is comparable to Nemec/Jiricek last year. Hopefully he comes over and is able to put up a similar AHL season to what those two did.