Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Doublechin]

HFhabs: I had Nemec/Jiricek at 1st in 2022 and we picked this f***ing goof!.

HFhabs in 2023 : How the f*** do we pick a dman in a loaded draft at forward, and a second pairing dman.

Reality : Reinbacher is better than both Nemec and Jiricek and he is also looking better, in my humble opinion, than Levshunov and Dickinskon who are the top Ds in 2023.



Watch him play. @montreal makes it very easy.

You wont need to look at hockeydb to be reassured.

Top pair RD upside in spade.

Ouf

That's quite the take

It's ok to be a Habs fan and br realistic. The kid looks abysmal so far this year, will he recover, maybe, will he not? Maybe

One thing for sure, I'd take Nemec, Jiricek and Levshunov ahead of him, the sad thing is we could have landed Nemec or Jiricek and that might have spared us this pick.

If I had the 10th pick in the 2023 draft I'd pass on Reinbacher personally. At 5 it was brutal. Can I be wrong? Hopefully but I'd place my money on him never attaining top 5 value

 

[Jaynki]

Ouf

That's quite the take

It's ok to be a Habs fan and br realistic. The kid looks abysmal so far this year, will he recover, maybe, will he not? Maybe

One thing for sure, I'd take Nemec, Jiricek and Levshunov ahead of him, the sad thing is we could have landed Nemec or Jiricek and that might have spared us this pick.

If I had the 10th pick in the 2023 draft I'd pass on Reinbacher personally. At 5 it was brutal. Can I be wrong? Hopefully but I'd place my money on him never attaining top 5 value

Thats quite the take too

 

[nhlfan9191]

Hey, i watched him play plenty and plenty of times. I had Reinbacher right after the big 3, above Smith.

Not because we don't share the same hockey opinions i don't watch him.

I don't deduce he is better than Jiricke, Nemac. I think its pretty easily seen. But okay.

Levshunov is another debate.

No GM would take Reinbacher over either one of Nemec/Jiricek right now. You’re wearing rose coloured glasses making that statement. That said, I’m still super high on Reinbacher.

 

[DAChampion]

No GM would take Reinbacher over either one of Nemec/Jiricek right now.

How would you know that?

 

[nhlfan9191]

How would you know that?

He’s a pretty clear tier below them right now in my opinion. And I put emphasis on the “right now” part of my post because we’re talking about teenaged defenseman.

 

[Jaynki]

No GM would take Reinbacher over either one of Nemec/Jiricek right now.

I would not bet on that.

 

[Andrei79]

Ouf

That's quite the take

It's ok to be a Habs fan and br realistic. The kid looks abysmal so far this year, will he recover, maybe, will he not? Maybe

One thing for sure, I'd take Nemec, Jiricek and Levshunov ahead of him, the sad thing is we could have landed Nemec or Jiricek and that might have spared us this pick.

If I had the 10th pick in the 2023 draft I'd pass on Reinbacher personally. At 5 it was brutal. Can I be wrong? Hopefully but I'd place my money on him never attaining top 5 value

Hasn't he played 9 games this year ? You're asking if he'll recover after that small a stretch ?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Ouf

That's quite the take

It's ok to be a Habs fan and br realistic. The kid looks abysmal so far this year, will he recover, maybe, will he not? Maybe

One thing for sure, I'd take Nemec, Jiricek and Levshunov ahead of him, the sad thing is we could have landed Nemec or Jiricek and that might have spared us this pick.

If I had the 10th pick in the 2023 draft I'd pass on Reinbacher personally. At 5 it was brutal. Can I be wrong? Hopefully but I'd place my money on him never attaining top 5 value

Have you watched his games?

 

[Mrb1p]

If Reinbacher was picked at 25OA and playing top pairing, 20mins+ a night in the NL, and at .37 PPG without PP time on a bad team we'd be talking about him like the next Roman Josi.

In terms of our "options":

Leonard's D+1 production is solid but not impressive in the NCAA. Simashev has done very little to change his projection. Danielson is below PPG in the WHL. Dvorsky looks solid in the OHL but hasn't really addressed the skating issue. Willander has been okay but uninspiring at BU from what I've seen. Benson scored a nice first NHL goal but hasn't really changed his projection as a smart but small/slow, two-way winger. Yager looks the same as last year. Wood is currently at a lower PPG than in his draft year.

Finally... there's nothing surprising about what Michkov is doing in the KHL. Same team, same usage, same issues, slightly better production. Still couldn't make the big team, still don't know whether he would have wanted to play here, still a small one-way winger. Wish we could have had both but that's not how it works.

Those are outrights lies, lol. You don't have to put down other teams prospect just because ours is having a terrible start to the season. He's a legitimate prospect, they are too. He looks the worst of the top 10 right now, it is fact. Does it mean something in the grand scheme ? No, its been 9 games.

So all the stat heads who went on and on about his production last year, where ya at?

He is terrible right now, there's no way around it. He's nowhere near as good as he was last year, I have no idea what is up. Heck, even in the camp this summer he didn't look this bad.

However, he does do good things, and the points will start coming, it's just, jesus what the hell is happening with his reads.

 

[red devil]

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Wow, this is brutal, hopefully it's a confidence issue and not low on ice awareness...

He’s been mixed-baggy but if you want to believe wholesale a poster named CAVE TROLL be my guest.

I saw extensive highlights from a game a few days ago and he put on a defensive clinic.

Last highlights I saw he made a LOT of bad giveaways.

All in all, he should be better but with the injury and his team (from what I heard) is utter garbage and has an interim coach at the helm right now; I’m not too worried. The sky is not falling. His production could be bettwr but hardly concerning

 

[Scriptor]

I'm certainly not above making the odd mistake.

Fixed it for you

 

[Scriptor]

We are so far from the panic button people, relax.

I'm excited for Guhle and Reinbacher to eat minutes and secure some important wins for us in the future. Reinbacher won't be flashy but he'll be very impactful.

I See Reinbacher as an eventual Hamrlik from his last season in Edmonton and hisIslander days, before he signed with Montreal.

I'd be happy with that as a 5th OA pick.I'd also be happy with Reinbacher to shield Hutson on a regular even strength pairing and to hook up with Guhle to close out games as a shutdown pairing.

A pillar on D is always a good pick.

 

[montreal]

If this is true, we are in big trouble...

it's not.

 

[1909]

The kid has lived a rocky last 6 months. The hate towards him (and his family) because he was drafted 5th overall ahead of Michkov did not help him at all. His injury at the beginning of his Swiss league season did not help at all. He will rebound. The kid cannot lose his hockey sense and poise overnite for no good reasons.

 

[Draft]

Those are outrights lies, lol. You don't have to put down other teams prospect just because ours is having a terrible start to the season. He's a legitimate prospect, they are too. He looks the worst of the top 10 right now, it is fact. Does it mean something in the grand scheme ? No, its been 9 games.

He is terrible right now, there's no way around it. He's nowhere near as good as he was last year, I have no idea what is up. Heck, even in the camp this summer he didn't look this bad.

However, he does do good things, and the points will start coming, it's just, jesus what the hell is happening with his reads.

No need to get dramatic. The prospects taken after him are either struggling or on track for their draft day projections - no big standouts IMO. Saying as much is not putting down other prospects. If you’re genuinely surprised that Benson can transition pretty smoothly to the NHL or that Michkov can produce at a similar rate as his draft year… I’m not sure what to say. The conversation is hardly different than when Reinbacher was drafted. At this point in time, dumping on him after a handful of games post-injury while glorifying the others is embarrassing.

Speaking of lying… it’s a fact that he’s the worst of the top-10? Did you miss Nate Danielson or Dimitri Simashev?

 

[admiralcadillac]

Ouf

That's quite the take

It's ok to be a Habs fan and br realistic. The kid looks abysmal so far this year, will he recover, maybe, will he not? Maybe

One thing for sure, I'd take Nemec, Jiricek and Levshunov ahead of him, the sad thing is we could have landed Nemec or Jiricek and that might have spared us this pick.

If I had the 10th pick in the 2023 draft I'd pass on Reinbacher personally. At 5 it was brutal. Can I be wrong? Hopefully but I'd place my money on him never attaining top 5 value

Lol okay

 

[Mrb1p]

No need to get dramatic. The prospects taken after him are either struggling or on track for their draft day projections - no big standouts IMO. Saying as much is not putting down other prospects. If you’re genuinely surprised that Benson can transition pretty smoothly to the NHL or that Michkov can produce at a similar rate as his draft year… I’m not sure what to say. The conversation is hardly different than when Reinbacher was drafted. At this point in time, dumping on him after a handful of games post-injury while glorifying the others is embarrassing.

Speaking of lying… it’s a fact that he’s the worst of the top-10? Did you miss Nate Danielson or Dimitri Simashev?

Struggling or on track, sure lol. Michkov and Benson are surpassing their projections pretty strongly right now.

 

[Whitesnake]

It's still young.....but both statements can be true at the same time. Reinbacher should be a safe player in the NHL. But we could have done so much better at that rank.

That,s like 2003. Kosty wasn't a bad player. But you could have picked a game changing player instead of him.

And Montreal's problems is never about being able to get players that can play. But great players that can change a team.

We draft, we trade average. We play average. Not rocket science.

 

[Whitesnake]

No need to get dramatic. The prospects taken after him are either struggling or on track for their draft day projections - no big standouts IMO. Saying as much is not putting down other prospects. If you’re genuinely surprised that Benson can transition pretty smoothly to the NHL or that Michkov can produce at a similar rate as his draft year… I’m not sure what to say. The conversation is hardly different than when Reinbacher was drafted. At this point in time, dumping on him after a handful of games post-injury while glorifying the others is embarrassing.

Speaking of lying… it’s a fact that he’s the worst of the top-10? Did you miss Nate Danielson or Dimitri Simashev?

If it would have been known that Benson could transition that fast in the NHL, he woud not have been picked as high as he was.

As far as the worst of the top 10....yeah Danielson is a problem at that pick right now. Strange how that works when you pick A NEED AND A POSITION instead of the BPA.....As far as Simachev....him too. Big D. Yet, just go back to the draft...and tell me that both Danielson and Simachev were pencilled to go that soon? Neither were. And STRANGELY, the both do not have the best year......Mind you.....it still does not mean that they'll have awful careers. I know.

But when teams seem to think that they are wiser than most listings....they rarely are.

 

[DAChampion]

That,s like 2003. Kosty wasn't a bad player. But you could have picked a game changing player instead of him.

Kostitsyn was a good player, but he failed due to injuries and poor physical maintenance. Hard to blame scouts for.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

The kid has lived a rocky last 6 months. The hate towards him (and his family) because he was drafted 5th overall ahead of Michkov did not help him at all. His injury at the beginning of his Swiss league season did not help at all. He will rebound. The kid cannot lose his hockey sense and poise overnite for no good reasons.

WTF is this loser narrative??

The hate towards Reinbacher's family is causing him to underperform? What does this even mean lol

 

[Draft]

If it would have been known that Benson could transition that fast in the NHL, he woud not have been picked as high as he was.

As far as the worst of the top 10....yeah Danielson is a problem at that pick right now. Strange how that works when you pick A NEED AND A POSITION instead of the BPA.....As far as Simachev....him too. Big D. Yet, just go back to the draft...and tell me that both Danielson and Simachev were pencilled to go that soon? Neither were. And STRANGELY, the both do not have the best year......Mind you.....it still does not mean that they'll have awful careers. I know.

But when teams seem to think that they are wiser than most listings....they rarely are.

Over Danielson? Probably. IMO Benson fell because of the role/position he plays and his physical limitations, not because he wasn't already a great prospect with a pro-ready game. Defensive and off puck play have been stellar since the end of his D-1. The pro details and high IQ was why he was talked about as a potential top-5 pick. Nothing has changed there.

I'll be shocked if Reinbacher doesn't clean up his game as he gets back to being comfortable after his injury and adjusts to another new coach.

 

[Draft]

Struggling or on track, sure lol. Michkov and Benson are surpassing their projections pretty strongly right now.

So... Simashev or Danielson? You're taking both over Reinbacher, but which one specifically?

 

[montreal]

I just finished watching his last game, it was likely his worst of the season as paid homage to his D partner Beaulieu by throwing a puck up the middle right onto the stick of the opposing team and into the back of the net it went.

I am surprised at how much he's struggled with the puck, but I have been saying I felt his defensive game was overrated and his offensive game underrated.

He did get almost 5 mins on the PP which is by far the most i've seen him get in any game (I think i've seen about 18 games between this year and last, only missed 1 game this year, his first where he scored the empty netter)