Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[nhlfan9191]

ok there morality police lol.

i'm sure i have made a few posts of pure reactive emotional hyperbole, though not so sure i haven't owned it as such when challenged. It's one thing to have a critical take that is grounded in a coherent argument, it's another just to complain for the sake of complaining. By all means, if you catch me doing the later, call me out. Otherwise, keep the generalizations and moral equivalencies to a partisan political message board

not all opinions are equal. having an opinion doesn't mean having a good take. If you can't identify a distinction, I've got a great piece of land to sell you, dm me

I’m not being the “morality police.” I’m just calling out a hypocrisy. A lot of the times people feel the way you do is because they aren’t used to having the unpopular opinion. It was easy as a Habs fan to have the popular opinion during the Bergevin era. It’s not as black and white now and people are split on a lot of things. The reason you’re viewing things that way is because more people then normal are saying things you don’t like to hear and anyone who disagrees with your opinion is toxic. Tell me I’m wrong..

 

[Miller Time]

I’m not being the “morality police.” I’m just calling out a hypocrisy. A lot of the times people feel the way you do is because they aren’t used to having the unpopular opinion. It was easy as a Habs fan to have the popular opinion during the Bergevin era. It’s not as black and white now and people are split on a lot of things. The reason you’re viewing things that way is because more people then normal are saying things you don’t like to hear and anyone who disagrees with your opinion is toxic. Tell me I’m wrong..

You're wrong. I see 6 you see 9 is a weak argument. Some takes are bad (ie. incoherent, disingenuous, ungrounded et.), some aren't, whether one agrees with the take or not is a completely different thing. Lots of posters have takes I disagree with, that doesn't mean it's a bad take. You are conflating those two things perhaps because that's how you view the world

about that piece of land...

 

[nhlfan9191]

You're wrong. I see 6 you see 9 is a weak argument. Some takes are bad (ie. incoherent, disingenuous, ungrounded et.), some aren't, whether one agrees with the take or not is a completely different thing. Lots of posters have takes I disagree with, that doesn't mean it's a bad take. You are conflating those two things perhaps because that's how you view the world

about that piece of land...

You just proved my point by saying “about that piece of land.” I could sit here and whine that everyone’s toxic just like you do now. You aren’t above anyone and you certainly aren’t the one that judges which opinions are good and aren’t. If you don’t like what’s being said, debate the person. Don’t cry that you can’t go a page without seeing something that hurts your feelings.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

Kostitsyn was a good player, but he failed due to injuries and poor physical maintenance. Hard to blame scouts for.

Respectfully…..compared to the players available to us in that draft Kostitsyn was a bum….i thought it was he worst pick ever!! Until of course KK was selected over Brady Tkachuk.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Looks fine to me in that video. I mean it remains a 9 minute video on a player that played 20 minutes. The turnover that led to a goal was unfortunate, but the puck likely hits that stick 1 out of 10 tries. He got unlucky there. I’m just curious as to why he went that direction as opposed to what he usually does in skating the puck out himself or turning back and buying time. Maybe he saw a player open on the other side hoping his D partner would move it up. Hard to see.

Either way, I’m not sure what the freaking out is about. But it’s typical from this fanbase.

Hey, this is the Habs' forum. It's never too early to panic.

 

[Redux91]

Unfortunately toxic, bad takes that perpetuate a dystopian future of the franchise are the ones that get amplified and carried away with.

It's definitely gotten to the point where people are more concerned with being right, so they'll hang their hat on the faintest piece of confirmation bias and get other angered fans in their corner to perpetuate it to the point it looks like fact to those trying to form an opinion on the outside.

It's such a shame that good work by Montreal and other posters gets buried under this toxicity.

The most insane thing I heard last summer, and I still truly can't believe they tried to make this a thing
"You guys and your Toxic positivity"

I had to stare at it for a couple minutes everytime like.. there is no answering this? There is no reasoning with this..?
We've just simply.. Lost , we have lost as human beings with reason if people will be so miserable and obtuse to the point where they see a side of humanity TRYING to help them get out of their mind gutters as a poison and a bad thing..
It's just, how do you muster the strength to continue the 'good fight' when people try to bring the term "toxic positiveness" into existence lmao

I get there's 'being naive' and we totally can be when you deal with soooo many individual cases

But damn its been f***ing hard these passed couple years to deal with the doom and gloom boy i tell ya lmao

 

[WeThreeKings]

The most insane thing I heard last summer, and I still truly can't believe they tried to make this a thing
"You guys and your Toxic positivity"

I had to stare at it for a couple minutes everytime like.. there is no answering this? There is no reasoning with this..?
We've just simply.. Lost , we have lost as human beings with reason if people will be so miserable and obtuse to the point where they see a side of humanity TRYING to help them get out of their mind gutters as a poison and a bad thing..
It's just, how do you muster the strength to continue the 'good fight' when people try to bring the term "toxic positiveness" into existence lmao

I get there's 'being naive' and we totally can be when you deal with soooo many individual cases

But damn its been f***ing hard these passed couple years to deal with the doom and gloom boy i tell ya lmao

I don't even know why it's toxic positivity to simply want to wait and see how things play out...

Development, rebuilds, it all takes so much time that there's really no way to know how things end up until they end up.

Yelling at clouds and getting up in arms with the swing of every young players development is just insane.

 

[Hannibal]

Its still early guys. Was he my choice with our pick? Nope. But he was and i’m pulling for him.

 

[nhlfan9191]

The most insane thing I heard last summer, and I still truly can't believe they tried to make this a thing
"You guys and your Toxic positivity"

I had to stare at it for a couple minutes everytime like.. there is no answering this? There is no reasoning with this..?
We've just simply.. Lost , we have lost as human beings with reason if people will be so miserable and obtuse to the point where they see a side of humanity TRYING to help them get out of their mind gutters as a poison and a bad thing..
It's just, how do you muster the strength to continue the 'good fight' when people try to bring the term "toxic positiveness" into existence lmao

I get there's 'being naive' and we totally can be when you deal with soooo many individual cases

But damn its been f***ing hard these passed couple years to deal with the doom and gloom boy i tell ya lmao

Whoever made the post your referring too worded that poorly. There is such a thing as delusionally optimistic and it does come across as obnoxious.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Whoever made the post your referring too worded that poorly. There is such a thing as delusionally optimistic and it does come across as obnoxious.

Kevskillz and S Bah? Sure?

Telling people to chill because Owen Beck didn't "regress" in his first 4 games back with the Petes should not be viewed as delusionally optimistic.

 

[Miller Time]

You just proved my point by saying “about that piece of land.” I could sit here and whine that everyone’s toxic just like you do now. You aren’t above anyone and you certainly aren’t the one that judges which opinions are good and aren’t. If you don’t like what’s being said, debate the person. Don’t cry that you can’t go a page without seeing something that hurts your feelings.

i'm sorry you have trouble with humour. I did not mean to offend you. I'll try to remember not to attempt humour with you in the future to avoid triggering your sensitivity.

and if you are feeling inadequate or inferior due to my post, my sincere apologies. Did not mean to trigger your insecurity.

none of that changes the reality that some takes are just bad. No amount of triggered sensitivity changes that.

carry on, hope you can enjoy your day. Please feel free to add me to your ignore list if my words offend you.

 

[Heffyhoof]

The most insane thing I heard last summer, and I still truly can't believe they tried to make this a thing
"You guys and your Toxic positivity"

I had to stare at it for a couple minutes everytime like.. there is no answering this? There is no reasoning with this..?
We've just simply.. Lost , we have lost as human beings with reason if people will be so miserable and obtuse to the point where they see a side of humanity TRYING to help them get out of their mind gutters as a poison and a bad thing..
It's just, how do you muster the strength to continue the 'good fight' when people try to bring the term "toxic positiveness" into existence lmao

I get there's 'being naive' and we totally can be when you deal with soooo many individual cases

But damn its been f***ing hard these passed couple years to deal with the doom and gloom boy i tell ya lmao

The people who whine about 'toxic positivity' are usually the 4-5 posters who've whined about Slafkovsky and Reinbacher more times in the last year (in Slaf's case) than I've posted in total.

 

[Redux91]

I don't even know why it's toxic positivity to simply want to wait and see how things play out...

Development, rebuilds, it all takes so much time that there's really no way to know how things end up until they end up.

Yelling at clouds and getting up in arms with the swing of every young players development is just insane.

My point was more, toxic positivity isn't a thing lmao

I'm surprised the universe doesn't implode on itself everytime we type it tbh lol

 

[WeThreeKings]

My point was more, toxic positivity isn't a thing lmao

I'm surprised the universe doesn't implode on itself everytime we type it tbh lol

No it conceptually isn't a thing, I am agreeing with that.

It can be nauseating but there's nothing toxic about positivity.

 

[montreal]

Based on that video. Something is off with his skating. There’s no more long strides, He’s lumbering with short, choppy strides. Instead of looking lanky, he looks heavy.

I've heard it suggested that the Habs asked him to put on weight in the off-season and that he's still adjusting to it, but I never looked up what his weight was last year vs now.

He's coming off a long absence and a knee injury.. he will be fine.

Too much panic over small sample sizes.

From what he said, it was the wrist that gave him trouble not the knee.

"f*** Slaf is improving.. let's get MESAR!!"
"f***, Mesar is dominating.. let's get BECK!!"
"f***.. Beck is back and didn't actually regress.... REINBACHER!!!!!"

I have to say I am legit concerned with what they have in the group of Slaf, Mesar, Reinbacher as this team has struggled to find success drafting in the 1st round and developing said talent. We can't continue to make mistakes or this rebuild will be going on for a long time.

That said it's so early that we'll need a few years to really start to see what we may have in total.

 

[Naslundforever]

I believe Reinbacher is so divinely good when he makes mistakes he is in fact testing HF member faith.

 

[Redux91]

Whoever made the post your referring too worded that poorly. There is such a thing as delusionally optimistic and it does come across as obnoxious.

Yes I'm sure he will crawl out of his mud-filled hole eventually lol
And I will have sunshine and vitamin D to offer!
For you see, We're deluuuuuuuuusionallllllll! But optimistic!

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

My point was more, toxic positivity isn't a thing lmao

I'm surprised the universe doesn't implode on itself everytime we type it tbh lol

I agree that the negativity has been a little unbalanced recently, but while toxic positivity is a term that can be misapplied, it is essentially another way to describe coping and is real and can be damaging when accurately assessed as such.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I've heard it suggested that the Habs asked him to put on weight in the off-season and that he's still adjusting to it, but I never looked up what his weight was last year vs now.



From what he said, it was the wrist that gave him trouble not the knee.



I have to say I am legit concerned with what they have in the group of Slaf, Mesar, Reinbacher as this team has struggled to find success drafting in the 1st round and developing said talent. We can't continue to make mistakes or this rebuild will be going on for a long time.

That said it's so early that we'll need a few years to really start to see what we may have in total.

Ah I didn't know about the wrist, but that makes sense too.

I am not concerned right now, it's far too early. Did I agree with the Slaf pick? No, he wasn't my guy. Did I agree with putting him in the NHL right away? No, that isn't my philosophy.

But I'm also not going to put the sins of the Bergevin empire on this group. We are in year 2 of having Adam Nicholas and the new development group in place and there's plenty of development runway to go with so many guys that we have to be patient and see how things turn out.

Is it fair to have reservations? Question what they are doing? Absolutely.. but I think too many (not you) go so far in the opposite direction that everything is a catastrophic moment and the rebuild itself is already doomed, over, unfixable and we've brought in the wrong group of people again. That's just too panicked for me.

I had some concerns on Slaf this year and thought Laval was time but since then, the improvements are coming and you see the growth. You see it slowing down a bit more and it's encouraging. Meanwhile Cooley is getting killed by writers in Arizona for being an absolute liability at 5 on 5, as he would if he were our pick here, but people don't want to see the other side of things when it comes to grass is greener that always happens here.

I don't have concerns on Reinbacher because I watched him a lot and his progression curve last year was insane, his poise, his athletic tools, all of that tells me this guy has a very high floor and a ceiling that could be just as high. It isn't sexy, it isn't exciting but I know why they made the pick and with how good Guhle has looked.. getting defensive pillars locked in early on a rebuild is very important.

That doesn't mean he can't stagnate, regress, or anything, but a few games after an injury isn't time to make that call.

 

[Miller Time]

Whoever made the post your referring too worded that poorly. There is such a thing as delusionally optimistic and it does come across as obnoxious.

 

[Svart]

I don't even know why it's toxic positivity to simply want to wait and see how things play out...

Development, rebuilds, it all takes so much time that there's really no way to know how things end up until they end up.

Yelling at clouds and getting up in arms with the swing of every young players development is just insane.

WE WANT RESULTS AND WE FKN WANT IT NOW!

 

[nhlfan9191]

Yes I'm sure he will crawl out of his mud-filled hole eventually lol
And I will have sunshine and vitamin D to offer!
For you see, We're deluuuuuuuuusionallllllll! But optimistic!

I never called you delusional. But there are people in here who are delusional optimists. There were people still defending Bergevin until the day he was fired. It was delusional thinking a GM like that was going to pull a 180. Those are the posters I was referring too.

 

[overlords]

I've heard it suggested that the Habs asked him to put on weight in the off-season and that he's still adjusting to it, but I never looked up what his weight was last year vs now.

I thought it was pretty obvious he over did the weight gain just by seeing his interviews around training camp. He looks as if Sam Montembeault has been acting as his nutritionist.

 

[Gravity]

Y'all chewing me out for that Juolevi comment, I'm just asking. Joulevi in his draft year was highly touted as well as a two way dman with exceptional breakout abilities. No saying Rein will be a bust like Ollie. Yes I 100% wanted Michkov but I'm still going to cheer for Reinbacher to succeed.

I don't understand the hater agenda either. We all root for the same team and want our players and prospects to succeed. Check my posts, even though I want a loss every game I still cheer for Slaf to get a hat trick.

 

[NORiculous]

OT but was Juolevi confirmed to be the guy that was rhumored to be playing video games at and all night?