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Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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Ezpz said:
To be fair we lowered our expectations because Bergevin was a bad GM that consistently let us down, not because he told us to lower them.
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Bergevin was the jiu-jitsu master of lowering expectations and making the media and fans feel like they're inappropriately entitled to any success or skill they might want to enjoy.

Hughes is entitled to lower expectations and fans are entitled to see through it. The 5OA in a very hyped draft class should lead to a high upside prospect. If the prospect fails or busts, that's out of Hughes' control, but if he chose wrong and the prospect doesn't have a very high ceiling (and prospects picked after him succeed) it should be held against Hughes despite his attempts to lower expectations.

Reinbacher seems to be widely praised by the organization and we can infer that the Coyotes would've picked him up at 5 or 6 had they had the chance. I didn't think he was a reach the night of the draft and I still don't think he was a reach. I wish the Habs had a different strategy and conception for the growth of the team but that doesn't mean Reinbacher himself is an unworthy prospect.

This season will be so encouraging if he flies out of the gate and takes over whatever league it is he will find himself.
 
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Curious to see if all the people saying Europe was the right move will criticize Hughes for calling him over...
 
ReHabs said:
It all depends on how he performs through rookie camp and training camp.
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Hughes isn't "calling him over" it is training camp where every first rounder is invited to show up for every team. Sometimes players such as NCAA players can't make it but that has nothing to do with not being invited or the team feeling like they would prefer to not get a look at him. It is not possible for this turn of events to even be criticized lol.
 
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Estimated_Prophet said:
Hughes isn't "calling him over" it is training camp where every first rounder is invited to show up for every team. Sometimes players such as NCAA players can't make it but that has nothing to do with not being invited or the team feeling like they would prefer to not get a look at him. It is not possible for this turn of events to even be criticized lol.
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I fully agree. It's expected to see prospects at rookie camp -- there is nothing unusal or untoward about inviting him to the rookie camp and training camp.

If he looks sub-standard and they keep him on the NHL roster, like they did with Slafkovsky last year, then I think @Kaladin can feel justified to stick a finger up at the regime supporters who think Hughes can do no wrong... but until then, it's a tiny bit premature to do so.
 
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Estimated_Prophet said:
Hughes isn't "calling him over" it is training camp where every first rounder is invited to show up for every team. Sometimes players such as NCAA players can't make it but that has nothing to do with not being invited or the team feeling like they would prefer to not get a look at him. It is not possible for this turn of events to even be criticized lol.
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Not to mention the report that has him either as a Hab or back to the NL. Not a snowball's chance in hell he's a Hab this season.
 
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Rapala said:
Not to mention the report that has him either as a Hab or back to the NL. Not a snowball's chance in hell he's a Hab this season.
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In terms of when we might compete, it's probably best to delay his ELC/RFA years one year anyways. I wish this was Slaf's first season coming. I think our possible cap challenges come when Dach is nearing the end of that 4 year deal. 3 more years left so if Reinbacher starts his ELC next year, he overlaps Dach by one year. Could be a big deal with our cap at that point.

If Dach, Slaf, Guhle, Xhekaj, Newhook break out a bit, our gap growth goes to them in the next 3 years ish. Having guys like Hutson and Reinbacher still on ELC is good strategy. It's not like we are holding them back, we are just not in a hurry to rush them.
 
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ReHabs said:
I fully agree. It's expected to see prospects at rookie camp -- there is nothing unusal or untoward about inviting him to the rookie camp and training camp.

If he looks sub-standard and they keep him on the NHL roster, like they did with Slafkovsky last year, then I think @Kaladin can feel justified to stick a finger up at the regime supporters who think Hughes can do no wrong... but until then, it's a tiny bit premature to do so.
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Jumped the gun on my end I’ll admit. Wait and see for now.
 
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Guess he won't play in today's preseason game then, too bad as I was looking forward to seeing him again as his last preseason game had it's ups and downs.

 
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I'd be extremely surprised to see him start the year in the NHL. It's just so rare for 18 y/o defencemen and while Barron and Savard aren't exactly superstars, they're comparatively better at RD than the competition on the wing was last year vs. Slafkovsky where we still had a bunch of total slugs at forward.

Matheson, Savard, Guhle, Barron, Harris, Xhekaj is already 6 regulars and they probably want to give one (or both) of Kovacevic and Lindstrom a spot too. Guhle is locked in and otherwise I just don't really see them scratching/demoting one of Barron/Harris/Xhekaj to play 18 y/o Reinbacher in the NHL when they have a perfect situation to return him to in Switzerland which also helps allow for Mailloux to get big minutes in Laval.
 
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JoelWarlord said:
I'd be extremely surprised to see him start the year in the NHL. It's just so rare for 18 y/o defencemen and while Barron and Savard aren't exactly superstars, they're comparatively better at RD than the competition on the wing was last year vs. Slafkovsky where we still had a bunch of total slugs at forward.

Matheson, Savard, Guhle, Barron, Harris, Xhekaj is already 6 regulars and they probably want to give one (or both) of Kovacevic and Lindstrom a spot too. Guhle is locked in and otherwise I just don't really see them scratching/demoting one of Barron/Harris/Xhekaj to play 18 y/o Reinbacher in the NHL when they have a perfect situation to return him to in Switzerland which also helps allow for Mailloux to get big minutes in Laval.
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Not to mention that Montreal doesn't need to worry about how the team will use Reinbacher in Switzerland, the way they might with a Russian prospect in the KHL.

The Swiss league team Reinbacher played for -- and its coaching staff -- was also instrumental in properly developing the RHD in his draft year, evaluating what he was able to handle as responsibilities on the ice and determining when he was ready to handle more responsibility.

I like the way they groomed him and know he is expected to have an even bigger role with the team this upcoming season. It's a well-deserved nod to have them continue developing the kid this season.

I honestly don't see anything wrong with going forward this way and am not so concerned about the ice size question that always comes up.

I'm more focused on what Mailloux will be able to do this year, all with his development as the onus of this focus, not necessarily whether he will play in Montreal or not.

It would be extremely fortuitous for the team if Mailloux were tomato a case for himself by season's end and were promoted to the NHL after the trade deadline. It would give him time to gain enough experience to help lessen the loss of Savard at the following season's trade deadline in the final year of his contract.

An end of season D-Corps of:

Matheson - Savard (in stay-at-home role)
Guhle - Kovacevic (good metrics with Guhle)/Harris/Barron
Xhekaj - Mailloux (ease him in on a 3rd pairing at even strength and offer a PP role for confidence)

Barron, Harris, Kovacevic
 
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Scriptor said:
I'm more focused on what Mailloux will be able to do this year, all with his development as the onus of this focus, not necessarily whether he will play in Montreal or not.

It would be extremely fortuitous for the team if Mailloux were tomato a case for himself by season's end and were promoted to the NHL after the trade deadline. It would give him time to gain enough experience to help lessen the loss of Savard at the following season's trade deadline in the final year of his contract.

An end of season D-Corps of:

Matheson - Savard (in stay-at-home role)
Guhle - Kovacevic (good metrics with Guhle)/Harris/Barron
Xhekaj - Mailloux (ease him in on a 3rd pairing at even strength and offer a PP role for confidence)

Barron, Harris, Kovacevic
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Mailloux needs to spend all year in the A he still has alot to learn specially defensively he often looks lost

I rather him play big minutes with the Rocket

Matheson - Barron
Guhle - Savard
Xhekaj/Harris/Kovacevic

This should be our def
 
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Nico Cauzuki said:
Mailloux needs to spend all year in the A he still has alot to learn specially defensively he often looks lost

I rather him play big minutes with the Rocket

Matheson - Barron
Guhle - Savard
Xhekaj/Harris/Kovacevic

This should be our def
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And we will soon see what Lindstrom can do or not.
 
ReHabs said:
I fully agree. It's expected to see prospects at rookie camp -- there is nothing unusal or untoward about inviting him to the rookie camp and training camp.

If he looks sub-standard and they keep him on the NHL roster, like they did with Slafkovsky last year, then I think @Kaladin can feel justified to stick a finger up at the regime supporters who think Hughes can do no wrong... but until then, it's a tiny bit premature to do so.
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The regime supporters. Lol.
 
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montreal said:
Guess he won't play in today's preseason game then, too bad as I was looking forward to seeing him again as his last preseason game had it's ups and downs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjf053bbX-0
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Preseason games are always much tougher on dmen as the forwards are often defensively undisciplined and defenders are often left guessing as opposed to knowing where support and outlets are going to be. As a former dman I know that I hated playing games that didn't matter as you are forced to hang on to the puck longer or just dump it as the forwards who are typically far less responsible than defenders are all over the place. It takes time for the coach to whip the prima donnas up front into shape lol.
 
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