Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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It’s the finer mechanics at times U see when defending. In the foot work.

He is very mobile. I don’t know the terms. People talk about his pivots. I seen it in his backwards skating at times I think.
There is very minor refine to be done, you have to considere the speed of the game he is facing and the larger rinks, those NL guys arent very big, but they can skate. Defending on larger rinks at the level he is doing isnt an easy thing, it only takes one flaw in the team structure to look bad.
 
his edges are good, I wonder if he has heavy feet as you see it when he tries to pivot and while it may be just a few games in a row, I noticed him fall here and there. Everyone toe picks one here and there or some bad ice so I need to see more but I'm trying not to get burnt out since Oct will be here in no time and then it's busy as shit again.
This is exactly what I was thinking. The best mobile defensemen in the league can pivot both ways effortlessly without losing any momentum. The Lesser D either lose some momentum when they pivot or can only pivot well on one side. That is why so many defensemen struggle and get beat on their wrong side.
The transference of energy is everything. I'm hoping in his case it's a matter of his coordination catching up with his growth. I mean he already moves well for a big man but if he can improve with his foot work and tranference it will allow him to be more agressive without fear of getting beat going the other way.
 
On the other hand, Engstrom is also strong skater, but his skating mechanics are perfect. Watch out for this kid too.He could be one of our better Ds and can play both sides.

Kuhle - Reinbacher
Hutson - Engstrom
Xhekaj - Mailloux

Mailloux and Hutson being PP specialists on two different PP waves, one with Reinbacher as a partner (Hutson) and the other with Guhle or Engstrom (Mailloux)?
 
If Reinbacher turns out to be a Vlasic, are we in a pickle or this would cement the team as a solid defensive team? Is this ceiling attainable for those more familiar with his progression?
 
That would be a disapointment.

His ceiling, in my humble opinion, is more in line with someone like Heiskanen.
I think expectation need some re-adjusting if an Olympian who brought a team to SCF would be considered a disappointment. Vlasic got Norris votes and was good for 30-35 a year while shutting down opposition. Don't let his last few years cloud your opinion on the guy. He was a stud for many years
 
I think expectation need some re-adjusting if an Olympian who brought a team to SCF would be considered a disappointment. Vlasic got Norris votes and was good for 30-35 a year while shutting down opposition. Don't let his last few years cloud your opinion on the guy. He was a stud for many years
I agree Vlasic was very good in his prime.

I simply think Reinbacher has more potential. With his recovery and transition skill, i would be disappointed if his best season amount to 30-35 points.
 
I agree Vlasic was very good in his prime.

I simply think Reinbacher has more potential. With his recovery and transition skill, i would be disappointed if his best season amount to 30-35 points.
Fair enough it'll come down to deployment. Vlasic averaged less than 2 mins of PP time most of his career. Matheson Hutson and Mailloux/Barron are probably all going to get PP time over him. Offense will need to Come from ES
 
I agree Vlasic was very good in his prime.

I simply think Reinbacher has more potential. With his recovery and transition skill, i would be disappointed if his best season amount to 30-35 points.
It’s very possible he caps out around there. But if he’s giving you stud top pair D. That’s great by me.

He can do more. I don’t think 50 is in the cards. Maybe
 
I think expectation need some re-adjusting if an Olympian who brought a team to SCF would be considered a disappointment. Vlasic got Norris votes and was good for 30-35 a year while shutting down opposition. Don't let his last few years cloud your opinion on the guy. He was a stud for many years
Not really that many years though. His sudden progression and drop off line up pretty perfectly with Larry Robinson's 5 year contract with the Sharks. It's just too bad for the Sharks he fell off immediately after inking his extension. His time as a top pairing guy was not that long.

I will say Hughes saying Reinbacher won't be a PP1 guy does indicate they see him more in the Vlasic or Slavin mold. Which would not be a problem if Hutson somehow can become a #1 D. These types of top pairing shutdown guys never really become available until after their prime.
 
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It’s very possible he caps out around there. But if he’s giving you stud top pair D. That’s great by me.

He can do more. I don’t think 50 is in the cards. Maybe
I agree. I may simply have understated Vlasic talent in his prime.

If Reinbacher becomes that solid, consistent top pair D. It would be great.

I do think 50 is in the cards tho. Maybe even more. Minute munching dmen like him who transition the puck should get plenty of assists.
 
Fair enough it'll come down to deployment. Vlasic averaged less than 2 mins of PP time most of his career. Matheson Hutson and Mailloux/Barron are probably all going to get PP time over him. Offense will need to Come from ES
Hutson, yes.

But i’d give PP2 to Reinbacher before the other options. Maybe both Reinbacher and Mailloux on PP2 so Mailloux can use his shot. We’ll see i guess.
 
Hutson, yes.

But i’d give PP2 to Reinbacher before the other options. Maybe both Reinbacher and Mailloux on PP2 so Mailloux can use his shot. We’ll see i guess.
Realistically, Reinbacher should be Hutson's PP partner, even if they don't play together at even strength, and Guhle/Engstrom - Mailloux should be on the 2nd PP wave.

At even strength, we might be surprised with a real shutdown pairing of Guhle - Reinbacher, good for 30-35 points each, but stifling our opponents' best players and Hutson - Engstrom could well be the other top-4 pairing for more offense.

Mailloux, in a thrid pairing role or to up the offensive pressure when down a goal, plus having a role as a PP specialist, could be better sheltered on physical third pairing with Xhekaj, perhaps?
 
I agree. I may simply have understated Vlasic talent in his prime.

If Reinbacher becomes that solid, consistent top pair D. It would be great.

I do think 50 is in the cards tho. Maybe even more. Minute munching dmen like him who transition the puck should get plenty of assists.
It depends on a lot. How he’s deployed, the team around him and his development curve.

He’s a hard one to gage imo. I really like his passing and how he jumps into the play. Decent shot. Would like it to get better. Not much hands or creativity. He’s very mixed bag offense wise. Plus you throw him playing against men so young, it makes it really hard to project offensively.

I’m not super bullish on his offensive potential. But I do think his game could result in a lot of secondary assists. I think his passing is underrated. If we’re running only 1 D on the PP, he’s likely not seeing any PP time barring injuries.

If he has that steep Guhle like curve then we’re laughing. But I’m not expecting much more than 30 which is fine if the D is elite.
 
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Realistically, Reinbacher should be Hutson's PP partner, even if they don't play together at even strength, and Guhle/Engstrom - Mailloux should be on the 2nd PP wave.

At even strength, we might be surprised with a real shutdown pairing of Guhle - Reinbacher, good for 30-35 points each, but stifling our opponents' best players and Hutson - Engstrom could well be the other top-4 pairing for more offense.

Mailloux, in a thrid pairing role or to up the offensive pressure when down a goal, plus having a role as a PP specialist, could be better sheltered on physical third pairing with Xhekaj, perhaps?
Yes, it’s very hard to know before we saw them all in the NHL and know where they fit best but for Xhekaj/Mailloux i agree.
 
If Reinbacher turns out to be a Vlasic, are we in a pickle or this would cement the team as a solid defensive team? Is this ceiling attainable for those more familiar with his progression?

Prime Vlasic was pretty good and i'd be fine if DR turns into that but personallyI'm hoping for the next coming of Roman Hamrlik. Everyone talk about Markov and Subban as the best 2 Habs D of the last 20 years but Hammer is not that far behind imho. Guy was rock solid in all zones and could log big minutes against top competition. If , at worst , Reinbacher turns into a similar type of D i'm gonna be a happy camper. Those are the kind of defensemen who stabilize a D Corps
 
that may have been when I stopped reading/posting in those threads, I tried to tell people they were vastly overrating Poehling's offense, same the year before with Romanov but why listen to someone that watched almost every game Poehling played in the NCAA when you have stats.
The stats didn’t support it either.
 
To be fair we lowered our expectations because Bergevin was a bad GM that consistently let us down, not because he told us to lower them.
It was both with him. He had his fair share of takes like trades are hard, centers are never available and/or they'd cost us Price, lineup not requiring much improvement cause anything can happen in da playoffs etc.
 
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To be fair we lowered our expectations because Bergevin was a bad GM that consistently let us down, not because he told us to lower them.
You don’t remember how the first 7 years were transition years ? He certainly did lower them. The sarcasm emoji didn’t save in my other post. I know Tyson was referring to lowering expectations on the player, not for the team.
 
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