Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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MadMslm

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People need to chill a little bit.

I’m as disappointed as anyone that Michkov wasn’t the pick, I had him 2nd but he isn’t a generational forward. I’m sure he will be an elite player and as much as it hurts, I had Reinbacher 6th, so I understand why they went for him.

Reinbacher as shown great things this year playing against men in a league with heavy pressure and forecheck.

To be able to do the things he did under such pressure on the ice is insane for an 18 year old. He’s a great skater, he’s great on transition, as shown good athleticism and he can do a good first pass and even if his shooting arsenal is not elite it’s still good.

His floor is a 3rd defensemen, playing so well defensively at that age when it takes years for other players is impressive. He definitely has first pair upside and even if he doesn’t top out as a true number one, Guhle and him will easily hold the mantle. Neither will hit 60pts but they will go 40+ pts a season playing 25 minutes a night.

We didn’t have an RD like him, Mailloux and Barron are a mess in their zone. He offers us stability in the long term. I like him more than I like Sanderson (I also like Guhle more than Sanderson).

He needs to get stronger, and be more physical, other than that he has great tools everywhere.

Again, I’m disappointed not to get that great offensive player but we got a really good prospect.
 

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Kind of an odd feeling. Simultaneously fine yet underwhelmed.
Same here

Of course I was incessant that the Habs needed a maximally good forward player but Reinbacher is not an off the board pick. By the end of the season Reinbacher was universally considered a top15 pick.

You can never have too many dmen and I feel dmen prospects are easier to develop and have a higher asset value if the are remotely competent with breakout passes.

I still think this organization needs high end forward skill but we’ll see when we get it and how we get there

Cheers to Reinbacher!
 

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People need to chill a little bit.

I’m as disappointed as anyone that Michkov wasn’t the pick, I had him 2nd but he isn’t a generational forward. I’m sure he will be an elite player and as much as it hurts, I had Reinbacher 6th, so I understand why they went for him.

Reinbacher as shown great things this year playing against men in a league with heavy pressure and forecheck.

To be able to do the things he did under such pressure on the ice is insane for an 18 year old. He’s a great skater, he’s great on transition, as shown good athleticism and he can do a good first pass and even if his shooting arsenal is not elite it’s still good.

His floor is a 3rd defensemen, playing so well defensively at that age when it takes years for other players is impressive. He definitely has first pair upside and even if he doesn’t top out as a true number one, Guhle and him will easily hold the mantle. Neither will hit 60pts but they will go 40+ pts a season playing 25 minutes a night.

We didn’t have an RD like him, Mailloux and Barron are a mess in their zone. He offers us stability in the long term. I like him more than I like Sanderson (I also like Guhle more than Sanderson).

He needs to get stronger, and be more physical, other than that he has great tools everywhere.

Again, I’m disappointed not to get that great offensive player but we got a really good prospect.
So Hughes refused to risk a 3rd pair guy (Reinbacher’s floor) to move from a basic 1st pair guy to generational ceiling.

Strategically unsound.

But what is even more annoying is that Hughes said they wanted to build a team based on speed and offense.

But when he is at the podium, he picks the path that will lead to winning games like the Habs did when Price was in nets. They won’t be drafting potential generational talents in the next few drafts because they will be drafting too late.
 

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Well, you guys wanted an analytics department in Montreal, one that had influence. I think you have your answer tonight, judging by all the analytics geeks' charts tonight. He was the guy to be picked. Some even call him a 'cornerstone defenceman'.

We'll see. I will go back and look at his clips now. And eat chips. Because when I'm sad, I eat chips.
But but the very same people saying he’s a future cornerstone D somehow are telling us that we can’t project Mitchkov’s abilities because factors and Ruski
 
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Oof. Yeah you’re right my bad he just went nearly a ppg at 17 yrs old in the 2nd best league in the world. Looking forward to punt 110 pts for the flyers in 3 years.
Generational talent doesn’t get picked 7th overall. You’re delusional. Also, he was nowhere near ppg, and the KHL is a shell of what it used to be.

Btw, 8 of his 20 points came in 2 games against Kunlon Red Star, and of those, 5 (4g, 1a) were in a single game against a goaltender (Zehao Sun) who finished the season with a 6.29 GAA.

But you’re right, we should ignore all context and call him generational, despite the fact that 6 teams passed on him and a fellow Russian was taken before him.
 
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Unexpected but looks like a very solid D. The D is set for the foreseeable future.

I don't know how they will be able to fix this forward group though.
 

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I feel badly for the kid. Hughes has put him in a position to fail. He will always be compared to all the other scorers from this draft picked after him. Just a dumb move. Not what we needed.
 

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Well, you guys wanted an analytics department in Montreal, one that had influence. I think you have your answer tonight, judging by all the analytics geeks' charts tonight. He was the guy to be picked. Some even call him a 'cornerstone defenceman'.

We'll see. I will go back and look at his clips now. And eat chips. Because when I'm sad, I eat chips.

I’m not the biggest fan of analytics, even if I’ll look at them for time to time.

Reinbacher will easily convince you that he’s a good player on the eye test alone. He’s smart, fast and can get the puck out of his zone to the other zone quickly.
 
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Fair enough. I was 11 in 2005 so I don't recall it very well. Retroactively would take Kopitar easily.
He's right. Brule and Pouliot were the bigger names. Price came out of nowhere. I was on this forum at the time. People were as pissed off as today.

Except, our guy new how to pronounce Carey Price's name at the mike. Poor Carey, that will follow him everywhere.
 
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I had Reinbacher as #6 best player in this draft. Do we see him 1 more season in Swiss or straight to the AHL?

His plan was one more year in Europe, but it's not like he got the chance to talk about it with the Habs yet.
 

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Same here

Of course I was incessant that the Habs needed a maximally good forward player but Reinbacher is not an off the board pick. By the end of the season Reinbacher was universally considered a top15 pick.

You can never have too many dmen and I feel dmen prospects are easier to develop and have a higher asset value if the are remotely competent with breakout passes.

I still think this organization needs high end forward skill but we’ll see when we get it and how we get there

Cheers to Reinbacher!

Yeah I'm bummed because it's not a sexy pick in the least.

But he could become among the most valuable if he pans out.
 

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Generational talent doesn’t get picked 7th overall. You’re delusional. Also, he was nowhere near ppg, and the KHL is shell of what it used to be.

Btw, 8 of his 20 points came in 2 games against Kunlon Red Star, and of those, 5 (4g, 1a) were in a single game against a goaltender (Zehao Sun) who finished the season with a 6.29 GAA.

But you’re right, we should ignore all context and call him generational, despite the fact that 6 trams passed on him and a fellow Russian was taken before him.
He didn’t fall because of said talent you realize this yes?
 

dinodebino

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I’m not the biggest fan of analytics, even if I’ll look at them for time to time.

Reinbacher will easily convince you that he’s a good player on the eye test alone. He’s smart, fast and can get the puck out of his zone to the other zone quickly.
I will go back looking at it. What bothers me is what Marc Crawford, a coach in the SNL said : he's an amazing talent at 18, but not as a number 1, but a number 2. That leaves me wanting more. (although Marc isn't probably the best judge).
 
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So Hughes refused to risk a 3rd pair guy (Reinbacher’s floor) to move from a basic 1st pair guy to generational ceiling.

Strategically unsound.

But what is even more annoying is that Hughes said they wanted to build a team based on speed and offense.

But when he is at the podium, he picks the path that will lead to winning games like the Habs did when Price was in nets. They won’t be drafting potential generational talents in the next few drafts because they will be drafting too late.
Yes this is all true but last year’s pick is way more damning than this year’s pick. This year’s pick could end up being the player found on every single winning team. Ultimately we needed a Reinbacher (or Nemec, or Jiricek) at some point. Dmen take longer to become elite —we can start asap.

It was last year’s draft that screwed things. They could’ve taken Nemec or Jiricek and moved onto acquiring top end forwards.

Ah well.
 
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Holy teenage angst. At least give the kid a chance. I wanted Michkov. Last year I wanted Wright. I was wrong last year. Likely wrong this year too.
 

MadMslm

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So Hughes refused to risk a 3rd pair guy (Reinbacher’s floor) to move from a basic 1st pair guy to generational ceiling.

Strategically unsound.

But what is even more annoying is that Hughes said they wanted to build a team based on speed and offense.

But when he is at the podium, he picks the path that will lead to winning games like the Habs did when Price was in nets. They won’t be drafting potential generational talents in the next few drafts because they will be drafting too late.

No, not that a 3rd pair Dmen, a top 3 on the team.

His floor is already second pair, kid has legitimate tools and if he only continues that progression curve he’s on he’ll be at least at top 2.
 
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