Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Retired]

I really wanted to get a good feel for his game going into this season as I didn't do that with Slaf and I should have (though it was likely due to not being able to find full games as Liiga are tough as shit to find) so it's been fun to watch him as he has some very interesting tools.

He moves well for what looks like a still lanky frame to me. “Gets physical” is a bit of a hook for the vid lol

Unrelated to him, but it seems harder for anyone to stand out on large ice; if anything his play reading, stick work and passing should stand out even more on na ice imo.

His outlet passing is what stands out most to me so far.

 

[montreal]

He moves well for what looks like a still lanky frame to me. “Gets physical” is a bit of a hook for the vid lol

Unrelated to him, but it seems harder for anyone to stand out on large ice; if anything his play reading, stick work and passing should stand out even more on na ice imo.

His outlet passing is what stands out most to me so far.

his feet need work, he will get beat to the outside as he needs some work on pivoting.

His passing is one of his best assets, solid puck mover for sure.

 

[danisonfire]

his feet need work, he will get beat to the outside as he needs some work on pivoting.

His passing is one of his best assets, solid puck mover for sure.

It usually takes the bigger D a bit longer to perfect their skating. They grow in a short amount of time and then everything feels weird for a little bit (even pain in extreme cases). Hopefully he smooths it out in the next few years.

Having solid passing skills will help with the teams transition game and getting pucks out of our zone in general. If he can absorb contact along the wall, shelter the puck and pass while moving away from the initial contact he will help us get the puck moving in the right direction.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I wouldn't put any weight to popular vote on hfboards.

Habs themselves passed on Hutson three times. He was, is and will be a project.

 

[Kaladin]

Only like 3% of the fans wanted Reinbacher at 5, so what the fans think sometimes... One was picked 5th OV, the other late 2nd round... Hutson will always have defensive deficiencies by comparaison to Reinbacher, Guhle and even Engstrom, what makes him a riskier defenseman and a least complete one. Would you pick a Pietrangelo or a Quinn Hughes like player to start a franchise? A high end all around defenseman, solid in all aspects of the game or an undersized offensive minded playmaker, great in transition, but at risk in his own zone and prone to mistakes?

I do like Hutson alot and we needed that type of talent in our system, he has alot of potential offensively and might even end up quarterbacking our top PP unit one day if everything goes well, but lets pump the breaks a bit here, he gets beat on the outside at times, his backwards skating needs work, concedes in reach/ physicality and his shot a work in progress.

None of what you said disproves what I said. Reinbacher has the higher floor because obviously Hutson has flaws, there's a reason he was picked in the second round but he also has elite tools. In a pool that's starving for actual stars someone with the potential to hit it will obviously be rated a bit more highly.

I also don't see Pietrangelo in Reinbacher. Pietro is much more well rounded, plays 2+ minutes on average on the PP and scores 50+ points in the NHL on average. No one thinks Reinbacher will even be on our second powerplay unit. Doesn't mean he won't be a good player and a asset to our franchise. He'll prove underwhelming is my fear though relative to where he was picked. Let's see how he does this season and more importantly when he makes it over to NA.

 

[JoelWarlord]

Remember when Poehling was voted #1 over Caufield and Suzuki? Good times.

 

[Habs]

Remember when Poehling was voted #1 over Caufield and Suzuki? Good times.

yes, the local scouts here are hilarious lol

 

[Andrei79]

Honestly talking about Carey Price triggers the crap out of me now. The better the Habs future looks the more upset I get that Habs wasted the career of such a transcendent talent. In 2015-16, he was on his way to another Hart contention season and without him from the beginning of the year, Habs would've probably been around a 70 pt team and in the Matthews discussion. I don't think I've ever seen a team change in performance so drastically when a single player is removed.

Glad to see Habs actually have competent people running it now. One important thing is they are building a collective instead of a team with individuals like most NHL teams do. Unless you have a generational talent like Crosby, McDavid, etc the sign of a well built team is not having to just point to one or two players as an illustration of the teams identity. For example Lafleur was that dude in the 70s but there was so much more than just one or two guys. At least half of that team is etched in the minds of every Habs fan

Serge Savard confirmed the other candidate was Julien Brisebois. Imagine how that one decision could have made a massive difference.

 

[montreal]

Remember when Poehling was voted #1 over Caufield and Suzuki? Good times.

that may have been when I stopped reading/posting in those threads, I tried to tell people they were vastly overrating Poehling's offense, same the year before with Romanov but why listen to someone that watched almost every game Poehling played in the NCAA when you have stats.

 

[CHwest]

that may have been when I stopped reading/posting in those threads, I tried to tell people they were vastly overrating Poehling's offense, same the year before with Romanov but why listen to someone that watched almost every game Poehling played in the NCAA when you have stats.

Ya but..... that first game.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Watched 5 of his last games and had a couple thoughts. First, what he does well;
- Gap control
- Stickwork (pokechecks, breaking up plays)
- Body positioning/approach on puck carrier
- Passing
- Reading the play and joining the rush (although teammates rarely hit him in prime areas)

What he has to work on;
- Stickhandling
- Backhand passes
- Pivots
- D-zone coverage (following and checking an attacker)

Overall, I feel like he plays such a no-nonsense game which works great for quick transition. However, I'd like to see him add a bit of "nonsense" this year if that makes sense: try creative plays and jump in even more offensively, even if it may cost him at times. He'll learn. NLA is definitely the way to go for 23-24, and I want him to be top-10 in points for Ds while carrying his team defensily.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Remember when Poehling was voted #1 over Caufield and Suzuki? Good times.

After his 1st NHL game ya we all had crazy high expectations lol!!

 

[Mrb1p]

Only like 3% of the fans wanted Reinbacher at 5, so what the fans think sometimes... One was picked 5th OV, the other late 2nd round... Hutson will always have defensive deficiencies by comparaison to Reinbacher, Guhle and even Engstrom, what makes him a riskier defenseman and a least complete one. Would you pick a Pietrangelo or a Quinn Hughes like player to start a franchise? A high end all around defenseman, solid in all aspects of the game or an undersized offensive minded playmaker, great in transition, but at risk in his own zone and prone to mistakes?

I do like Hutson alot and we needed that type of talent in our system, he has alot of potential offensively and might even end up quarterbacking our top PP unit one day if everything goes well, but lets pump the breaks a bit here, he gets beat on the outside at times, his backwards skating needs work, concedes in reach/ physicality and his shot a work in progress.

3% ? Wasnt it just you and I ?

Watched 5 of his last games and had a couple thoughts. First, what he does well;
- Gap control
- Stickwork (pokechecks, breaking up plays)
- Body positioning/approach on puck carrier
- Passing
- Reading the play and joining the rush (although teammates rarely hit him in prime areas)

What he has to work on;
- Stickhandling
- Backhand passes
- Pivots
- D-zone coverage (following and checking an attacker)

Overall, I feel like he plays such a no-nonsense game which works great for quick transition. However, I'd like to see him add a bit of "nonsense" this year if that makes sense: try creative plays and jump in even more offensively, even if it may cost him at times. He'll learn. NLA is definitely the way to go for 23-24, and I want him to be top-10 in points for Ds while carrying his team defensily.

What games did you watch ? He was really weak on his pivot early int he year and his Dzone coverage was pretty bad but towards the end he made gigantic strides, especially on his pivots that were god awful.

 

[cphabs]

3% ? Wasnt it just you and I ?


What games did you watch ? He was really weak on his pivot early int he year and his Dzone coverage was pretty bad but towards the end he made gigantic strides, especially on his pivots that were god awful.

Which player?

 

[Mrb1p]

Which player?

Reinbacher

 

[Simarino]

Watched 5 of his last games and had a couple thoughts. First, what he does well;
- Gap control
- Stickwork (pokechecks, breaking up plays)
- Body positioning/approach on puck carrier
- Passing
- Reading the play and joining the rush (although teammates rarely hit him in prime areas)

What he has to work on;
- Stickhandling
- Backhand passes
- Pivots
- D-zone coverage (following and checking an attacker)

Overall, I feel like he plays such a no-nonsense game which works great for quick transition. However, I'd like to see him add a bit of "nonsense" this year if that makes sense: try creative plays and jump in even more offensively, even if it may cost him at times. He'll learn. NLA is definitely the way to go for 23-24, and I want him to be top-10 in points for Ds while carrying his team defensily.

I think being an 18yrs old playing with mens will do that to your game, playing a safer game. Im sure if he would have played with players his age, we would have seen more flashes of creativity.

 

[Wateredgarden]

Habs themselves passed on Hutson three times. He was, is and will be a project.

Now that we've accepted that he is 5'9 at best, our project this year's is to accept that he's got a lot to prove before he makes it to the NHL.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

What games did you watch ? He was really weak on his pivot early int he year and his Dzone coverage was pretty bad but towards the end he made gigantic strides, especially on his pivots that were god awful.

Final 5 games of regular season + 1 playoff game. I can't attest to his improvement that much so I'll trust you on that. To be fair, I have very high expectations for his defensive potential so I think he could definitely improve some more.

I think being an 18yrs old playing with mens will do that to your game, playing a safer game. Im sure if he would have played with players his age, we would have seen more flashes of creativity.

Fair, although we haven't seen it that much at the u20 level either. The tools have apparently gotten better this year and he already read the ice pretty well, so I'm expecting him to show some flashes now.


Overall, defensively he's miles ahead of a player like Barron at the same age (and probably better today as well). Even the top RD prospects for next draft are behind him in that aspect of the game. Defending at that level is amazing for an 18 y.o. so I'm not worried. However, there are levels to it: can he improve some more and become a Slavin-like defender? Or will he be only solid and reliable if not much else?

 

[BaseballCoach]

However, there are levels to it: can he improve some more and become a Slavin-like defender? Or will he be only solid and reliable if not much else?

Yes, is he Serge Savard or Bill Nyrop?

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Yes, is he Serge Savard or Bill Nyrop?

Let's just say that's a bit old for me, but I definitely hope he plays more than 207 games.

The facts are that rush defense and transition will be Reinbacher's bread an butter. He won't wow us with his puckhandling or, to an extent, his shot. His defense will at least be reliable, and potentially strong to elite.

His offensive output will be dictated by his positioning and involvement: in NLA and in the rookie scrimmages, he has shown that he can jump up in the play, sneak behind defending attackers and get open in prime areas. If his future teammates can hit him with timely passes there, he'll produce offense. He should also accumulate a certain amount of assists with quick stretch passes, takeovers-to-offense and by getting shots on net for rebounds.

Edit: go look at Devon Toews' highlight package. How does he score goals? Booming shot? Nope. Nifty dangles? Not really. He flairs opportunities to join the rush, activates on rotation in the O-zone and sends accurate half-slappers on net. It's not that hard to score goals when you're smart.

 

[The Great Weal]

He's got a higher floor but he doesn't have Hutson's superstar potential. That's clear as day. There's a reason fans voted Hutson as our top prospect over Reinbacher. I actually think Reinbacher might slip down to 3rd next year in our prospect pool.

And what was the reason for the majority of fans here to vote Poehling as our top prospect over Suzuki? You know, since the word of the majority here apparently means a lot and is very accurate.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

that may have been when I stopped reading/posting in those threads, I tried to tell people they were vastly overrating Poehling's offense, same the year before with Romanov but why listen to someone that watched almost every game Poehling played in the NCAA when you have stats.

Because you're only montreal and not Montreal....

Maybe.

All I got.

 

[Kaladin]

And what was the reason for the majority of fans here to vote Poehling as our top prospect over Suzuki? You know, since the word of the majority here apparently means a lot and is very accurate.

Do you actually disagree that Hutson has a better shot at being a superstar D vs. Reinbacher or did you just want to squeeze in a smart aleck comment?

I actually disagree a lot with the majority opinions around here. You don't have to tell me how wrong the majority can be lol. In this case I think the poll was a accurate reflection of sentiment around Reinbacher's ceiling (right or wrong). One reinforced by our very own GM.

 

[SlafySZN]

Do you actually disagree that Hutson has a better shot at being a superstar D vs. Reinbacher or did you just want to squeeze in a smart aleck comment?

I actually disagree a lot with the majority opinions around here. You don't have to tell me how wrong the majority can be lol. In this case I think the poll was a accurate reflection of sentiment around Reinbacher's ceiling (right or wrong). One reinforced by our very own GM.

People understood what he said wrong.

 

[Belial]

People understood what he said wrong.

It's crazy how much that Hughes phrase is being brought up all the time!

Even the GM doesn't believe in his potential!!!