Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[ReHabs]

perhaps the whole "Defence takes longer to develop then forwards" thing is partially the reason behind the pick?

Strong puck-possession D-men add a lot to offense.

They would’ve picked Smith if he was there at 5. There was no master plan to pick a dman at all costs. They felt Reinbacher was BPA.

 

[Andy]

So many things have to go right for any team to make the Cup finals let alone win.

Bottom line: Habs elite players led by Price played elite, hey they even defeated this years Cup champs or was that a mirage too?

Well, the habs didn't win the cup. And that wasn't really being discussed. We're talking about the quality of the club at the time. They were a poorly constructed club that got lucky for one very unique season.

 

[Andrei79]

They would’ve picked Smith if he was there at 5. There was no master plan to pick a dman at all costs. They felt Reinbacher was BPA.

This is why I don't understand those that say they picked for need. They apparently badly wanted to be in the top 4, where all the players were centers. All of Reinbacher, Michkov, Leonard, Dvorsky, Benson would have filled a need.

They went with the player they felt added the most value to the team long term.

It's been two years where they picked their BPA. Now are they good at finding the BPA ? That's another story.

 

[Vachon23]

 

[FrankMTL]

Don't know if this was already posted, and I'm too lazy to look, but interesting article.

https://www.tvasports.ca/2023/07/18/les-equipes-sarrachaient-reinbacher-au-repechage?utm_medium=cxense&utm_source=tvanouvelles.ca&utm_campaign=reco#cxrecs_s

Basically it goes on to say that multiple teams wanted Reinbacher including Phoenix, Washington and Nashville was trying to trade up with Montreal to select Reinbacher, not Michkov. Philadelphia also loved Reinbacher, but the anonymous source is not sure if he was their first choice.

You were one minute faster than me lol....At least I translated a bit though

 

[The Last Red]

Last 40 goal scorer almost 30 years ago, last 100 point scorer 1986. Plekanec the only pick to score 70 points or more this century. Why can't this team find one gem?

Stop. Cole Caufield is a minimum 40 goal per year scorer - spare me the "he hasn't done it yet" BS. But we do need another very high-end forward from the draft next year to round out the rebuild.

 

[BLONG7]

Last 40 goal scorer almost 30 years ago, last 100 point scorer 1986. Plekanec the only pick to score 70 points or more this century. Why can't this team find one gem?

It's been a long grind without a real offensive threat ( we are on the cusp of CC and Suzuki, and Dach)
Drafting is the real reason as to why we have not had any gems for our offense.

Wanted a forward................but not unhappy with our Dman pick either................but was 100 percent sure, we were taking a forward.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Athletic: Top 50 drafted NHL prospects

Reinbacher 20 and Hutson is 27

Who's second ? Asking for a friend.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Who's second ? Asking for a friend.

A bunch of sub 5'10 point scorers. That's Wheelers favorite.

 

[Kaladin]

This is more of what I was talking about. This is not rational disagreement, it's just whining. Placing an emphasis on development is not somehow undermined by letting a kid go back to Switzerland for one year unless you're trying to be deliberately disingenuous in comparison with Michkov or something.

I don't really follow Detroit but I am extremely doubtful that they don't think their development staff have value, yet they still had no problem treating Seider and Edvinsson differently and it wasn't some huge crisis.

If you were able to look past the trees for the forest you'd realize what the actual concern is. The team has stated their drafting philosophy is motivated by whether or not they have control of players. Nothing disingenuous about that it is well documented. If we see evidence that isn't the case, as would be the example of Reinbacher moving back to Europe what are the implications of that? It becomes more possible that the Habs did in fact draft for need. As some folks within the Habs have already let slip but tried to walk back.

If our management is the type to draft for NEEDS over BPA then this team is going nowhere fast. That's the actual concern. It's not whining to be worried about this although I understand it might make you feel superior to state that. As for Detroit I'm sure their fans would be similarly concerned if their management stated one thing, did the other and this led them to believe the team was drafting for need. I'm not quite sure why you aren't concerned by this to be honest.

 

[admiralcadillac]

DLC said Montambeault had serious mental problems and his mind was destroyed.

DLC is either opinion pieces or links to other sources. This is a forum where no one has any insider knowledge so I’m curious about the truth in the article, which is more than someone’s opinion.

I don’t see a purpose to making up such specific information.

 

[Kaladin]

There's a couple points you aren't really grasping here.

1. Control over development was one piece of the pie. They didn't say that was the only reason they passed on Michkov. The same thing with not seeing him live.

2. 1 year is vastly different than 3. Counting isn't hard.

3. Do you think the relationship between leagues are all the same? The way the Habs can cooperate on the development of Reinbacher with a NLA team is the same as the cooperation with a KHL team?

4. They couldn't get into Russia to see Michkov live. Therefore it's unlikely they can get to Russia during his development. Whereas they can make multiple trips to Switzerland and talk to and see Reinbacher in person and do their regular development protocol.

1. It was claimed as a large part of the reason from what I read.
2. Why even risk 1 year away from the excellent development set up we have apparently for a top 5 pick? Put him where you believe he'll excel.
3. Go on then. Tell me all the examples of NLA teams' listening to NHL teams on how to manage their players.
4. I to this day do not know how Bobrov is unable to get into Russia as a russian to see Michkov live. It's such a dumb excuse. Or how we don't have scouts in Russia to do the same. It's the second biggest league in the world, we are rich, even outside the Michkov situation it's almost malpractice to claim that as a reason. I guess we're leaving Bogdan to his own devices for the next few years with 0 contact from us.

 

[Tyson]

Stop. Cole Caufield is a minimum 40 goal per year scorer - spare me the "he hasn't done it yet" BS. But we do need another very high-end forward from the draft next year to round out the rebuild.

He hasn't done it yet is a factual statement.

 

[Lockin17]

whats up with Reinbacher having bad knees ??

 

[WeThreeKings]

whats up with Reinbacher having bad knees ??

Nothing. Click bait garbage

 

[Mudz]

DLC is either opinion pieces or links to other sources. This is a forum where no one has any insider knowledge so I’m curious about the truth in the article, which is more than someone’s opinion.

I don’t see a purpose to making up such specific information.

Entretien avec Max Truman – BPM Sports

bpmsports.ca

His source seems quite evident if you listen to this. Truman says his son got something similar but worst than Reinbacher. I think there's an health professionnal that just lost its contract with the CH lol.

 

[bleuetbio]

Don't know if this was already posted, and I'm too lazy to look, but interesting article.

https://www.tvasports.ca/2023/07/18/les-equipes-sarrachaient-reinbacher-au-repechage?utm_medium=cxense&utm_source=tvanouvelles.ca&utm_campaign=reco#cxrecs_s

Basically it goes on to say that multiple teams wanted Reinbacher including Phoenix, Washington and Nashville was trying to trade up with Montreal to select Reinbacher, not Michkov. Philadelphia also loved Reinbacher, but the anonymous source is not sure if he was their first choice.



You were one minute faster than me lol....At least I translated a bit though

Read that too, not sure if we cant trust this. Look like propaghanda to brinf the wind in another way

 

[David Suzuki]

Entretien avec Max Truman – BPM Sports

bpmsports.ca

His source seems quite evident if you listen to this. Truman says his son got something similar but worst than Reinbacher. I think there's an health professionnal that just lost its contract with the CH lol.

His source is he made it up

 

[LV426]

Last 40 goal scorer almost 30 years ago, last 100 point scorer 1986. Plekanec the only pick to score 70 points or more this century. Why can't this team find one gem?

The hockey Gods are punishing them for winning an obscene amount of Cups.

 

[CaptnNemo]

Him and Hutson are gonna be bad as a bone.. Bbbbbbbbbaaadd news for the others teams that is

 

[jrom]

Interesting, I had this same condition as a teenager. The name "Osgood-Schlatter's Disease" sounds like something extremely scary but it's very minor. As far as I can remember from my doctor and researching it at the time, it's caused by the tendon in your knee pulling on the top of your shin and it's most common in teenagers who play sports because your muscles develop more quickly than your bones and are disproportionately strong relative to your still growing bones, so the tendon is pulling harder on your shin bone than it "should". It's not a long term structural thing at all and isn't specifically a "knee" problem with the joint itself, and it just goes away with time as your bones finish growing.

For me it stuck around periodically from about age 17-19 and I'd have pain below my knee (mostly my left knee) after playing hockey. Otherwise I never had any issues with it from playing football or doing any other exercise, just some minor pain after hockey games & practices that was easily resolved with ice & advil (usually didn't need to do anything) and then it just went away once I got into my 20s.

Same for me, after a full day of (alpine) skiing knees were a bit sore, especially if I did a lot of mogul. Went away around 21.

Obviously it would not look good on Habs if they missed that before drafting (even tough it’s not a chronic issue).

That said it’s not even a DLC rumor, it’s from a RadioX / BPM sport guy, just a notch above hockey30 credibility wise.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Entretien avec Max Truman – BPM Sports

bpmsports.ca

His source seems quite evident if you listen to this. Truman says his son got something similar but worst than Reinbacher. I think there's an health professionnal that just lost its contract with the CH lol.

That’s what I mean - it’s not an opinion piece so people saying that DLC is a bad source didn’t notice that DLC was just citing a source internally not writing their own take on a situation.

 

[JoelWarlord]

If you were able to look past the trees for the forest

Maybe you're seeing a forest that isn't there. The picked BPA vs picked for needs argument is an entirely separate discussion and does not need to have anything to do with whether he goes to Laval or Switzerland. I understand what your stated concern is, and your argument that it would prove the control argument is a sham and they drafted needs over BPA because they sent him back to Europe instead of having "control" in the AHL.

I get what you're arguing, I just don't think it's relevant or reasonable as a concern in the context of whether Reinbacher goes to Kloten or Laval. It's just a massive logical leap that only makes sense if we assume that having control over a player's development ALWAYS and ONLY means bringing them to the AHL/ECHL as soon as possible in all situations or any discussion of control/development was all bullshit. That just is not the case, and everything you're arguing flows from that extremely weak premise.

If we see evidence that isn't the case, as would be the example of Reinbacher moving back to Europe what are the implications of that? It becomes more possible that the Habs did in fact draft for need. As some folks within the Habs have already let slip but tried to walk back.

Or maybe the implications could be that they think would benefit from one more year in a pro league that is approximately a similar or slightly better level of play relative to the AHL, and/or that Reinbacher asked to go back to finish school and/or be closer to his family, and/or that the Habs want to maximize TOI for both Reinbacher and Mailloux, and/or that the Habs want him to have consistency in the team & environment while working on specific technical details, or any number of reasons from both the team and player's side. Choosing Laval or Kloten is not "evidence" of anything beyond that the Habs and Reinbacher agreed to go with one or the other, they are both very good options and it is one singular decision with its own unique context.

 

[waffledave]

DLC is either opinion pieces or links to other sources. This is a forum where no one has any insider knowledge so I’m curious about the truth in the article, which is more than someone’s opinion.

I don’t see a purpose to making up such specific information.

Even if true, from the article it sounds like Osgood-Schlatter disease which is not a big deal, he will grow out of it and it doesn't cause any long term knee issues. Like many others I had it growing up.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Even if true, from the article it sounds like Osgood-Schlatter disease which is not a big deal, he will grow out of it and it doesn't cause any long term knee issues.

Even if true, from the article it sounds like Osgood-Schlatter disease which is not a big deal, he will grow out of it and it doesn't cause any long term knee issues. Like many others I had it growing up.

If he’s been playing with it could that mean he has the potential to get even better? Playing hockey with constant knee pain sounds brutal and it would affect your speed for sure.