Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Xirik]

Athletic: Top 50 drafted NHL prospects

Reinbacher 20 and Hutson is 27

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Actually, from a hockey perspective, they have had more success over the past 15 years then 75% of the leagues teams. Prior to the rebuild, which is going well IMO, the team won 9 rounds in the previous 11 years including a Cup final and an two ECF's. So if they are losers, then so are the 20+ teams that have worse records over the same time period.

Don't take this as me being satisfied with results, but context matters, and the original post was calling us the "joke of the league", which is pretty hilarious when you take a step back.


That "you must be fine with mediocrity" is such a lame argument, In my personal life I am focused on being great, And would put my own professional record against anyone. A hockey team that I have no control over? Ya, not super worred pal. This isn't real life, it's just a sport.

Huh? Where did I say you were mediocre in your personal life? I don't know you, buddy

Also, the Arizona Coyotes are clearly the joke of the league. Toronto's probably 2nd. But our t30 years of failure is getting us there.

Finally, you can't compare us to rando teams in the league. We're the Montreal f***ing Canadiens. A few fluke playoff successes in a sea of terribility just isn't good enough. I'm also not sure why you're using the 11-year metric other than to prove your point. We've sucked for 30 years, not 11.

We want to be Tampa, or Pittsburgh and Chicago when they were contending. The teams with competent management that sustain lengthy runs of Stanley Cup contention. The fact that Vegas won a cup within 6 years of joining the league should be infuriating to us. It shows what actual competence gets you.

Putting us in the same pot as Arizona or Columbus isn't a thing that should be happening. We're one of the highest revenue teams. We have the ability to invest in this club provided things are being handled competently. This gives us a leg up on the majority of franchises.

Don't take this as me being satisfied with results, but context matters, and the original post was calling us the "joke of the league", which is pretty hilarious when you take a step back.

Happy to hear it. I get the idea that nuance is a thing, but defending a mediocre team by grasping at their minor successes won't effect actual change.

 

[David Suzuki]

Having a complaint about the Habs being "perennial bubble teams" in your header and then complaining the team is too bad is a good bit.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Having a complaint about the Habs being "perennial bubble teams" in your header and then complaining the team is too bad is a good bit.

Bubble is worse than outright sucking. At least if we'd sucked for an extended period at any point in the past, we could have drafted some talent.

But Molson wanted to sell them playoff beers of course.

In case you're not familiar with my position, I wanted a mega tank.

 

[David Suzuki]

Bubble is worse than outright sucking. At least if we'd sucked for an extended period at any point in the past, we could have drafted some talent.

But Molson wanted to sell them playoff beers of course.

In case you're not familiar with my position, I wanted a mega tank.

That's what you're getting? 1st overall 2022, 5th overall 2023, not gonna be any better in 2024 or 2025.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

That's what you're getting? 1st overall 2022, 5th overall 2023, not gonna be any better in 2024 or 2025.

I think we're going to start finishing 8-12 from the bottom, which will put us in Red Wings territory. Unfortunately, 1 and 5 didn't yield us the talent we need to contend.

When I say mega tank, I mean no unnecessary wins for tHe CuLtUrE while Won't Back Down plays in the background. Maybe then we could have had Bedard instead of a 2-way defenseman with bad knees.

 

[ReHabs]

Just making stuff up at this point. Sad. We deserve a better class of cynic on this forum, you'll never be @ReHabs

I am definitely a cynic with the Habs but I am not yet a full on Hughes/management hater. I just don’t like the nonstop ungrounded optimism.

Slafkovsky had an awful year and the Habs should’ve picked a forward with the 5OA… but that doesn’t mean it’s all over. We are still going to see a lot of moves and a lot of hockey coming up. Things can change… I just won’t bet on it.

Leave Twisted Sinister alone, s/he’s living their truth.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Athletic: Top 50 drafted NHL prospects

Reinbacher 20 and Hutson is 27

Unfortunately this list is really, really bad.

Scott Wheeler's obsession with tiny forwards with high NHLe gonna pan out as well as it did for the Leafs when he scouted for them.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I am definitely a cynic with the Habs but I am not yet a full on Hughes/management hater. I just don’t like the nonstop ungrounded optimism.

Slafkovsky had an awful year and the Habs should’ve picked a forward with the 5OA… but that doesn’t mean it’s all over. We are still going to see a lot of moves and a lot of hockey coming up. Things can change… I just won’t bet on it.

Leave Twisted Sinister alone, s/he’s living their truth.

Why? Assuming that Mochkov was a no, why would Leonard have been better than Reinbacher?

Why is a winger so important to you?

 

[Andy]

Queue the panic!

 

[WeThreeKings]

Queue the panic!

The key point here is that he's probably still gonna grow.

Guhle 6'3
Xhekaj 6'4
Reinbacher 6'5
Hutson 6'6

 

[WeThreeKings]

The only rule I follow in life is do not quote DLC. Sadly he broke it.

I think the most ignorant assumption is that a team picking in the top 5 would not have access to medical information regarding a prospect.

Not to mention the kid was at the combine and no doubt had everything looked at.

 

[JoelWarlord]

(Twitter link)

Queue the panic!

Interesting, I had this same condition as a teenager. The name "Osgood-Schlatter's Disease" sounds like something extremely scary but it's very minor. As far as I can remember from my doctor and researching it at the time, it's caused by the tendon in your knee pulling on the top of your shin and it's most common in teenagers who play sports because your muscles develop more quickly than your bones and are disproportionately strong relative to your still growing bones, so the tendon is pulling harder on your shin bone than it "should". It's not a long term structural thing at all and isn't specifically a "knee" problem with the joint itself, and it just goes away with time as your bones finish growing.

For me it stuck around periodically from about age 17-19 and I'd have pain below my knee (mostly my left knee) after playing hockey. Otherwise I never had any issues with it from playing football or doing any other exercise, just some minor pain after hockey games & practices that was easily resolved with ice & advil (usually didn't need to do anything) and then it just went away once I got into my 20s.

 

[ReHabs]

Why? Assuming that Mochkov was a no, why would Leonard have been better than Reinbacher?

Why is a winger so important to you?

Because we continue to need offensive power and high end prospects who aren’t critically flawed in one way or another (eg Farrell, Roy, etc).

 

[Xirik]

Because we continue to need offensive power and high end prospects who aren’t critically flawed in one way or another (eg Farrell, Roy, etc).

perhaps the whole "Defence takes longer to develop then forwards" thing is partially the reason behind the pick?

 

[Tyson]

perhaps the whole "Defence takes longer to develop then forwards" thing is partially the reason behind the pick?

Last 40 goal scorer almost 30 years ago, last 100 point scorer 1986. Plekanec the only pick to score 70 points or more this century. Why can't this team find one gem?

 

[DAChampion]

perhaps the whole "Defence takes longer to develop then forwards" thing is partially the reason behind the pick?

I doubt it. I think they simply picked BPA.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Last 40 goal scorer almost 30 years ago, last 100 point scorer 1986. Plekanec the only pick to score 70 points or more this century. Why can't this team find one gem?

If Caufield didn't get hurt he easily hits 40.

 

[salbutera]

Show me on this doll where Caufield has scored 40 goals. He hasn't done it until he's done it.

The SCF run was a fluke in the Covid bubble. We weren't even making the playoffs without the existence of the North division. We've never had sustained success at any point in the last 30 years.

But hey man, hang on to the few flukes we've had and enjoy your shabby product. Lots of people are totally fine with mediocrity, so you do you.

Last I checked every team played by the same rules - Habs were built that offseason for big boy CDN division, which paid off

This Covid excuse is asinine, Leafs, Jets, Oilers, Nucks, Sens all played under same set of rules - and no US team had the grueling travel schedule of CDN teams to top it off (no cross time zone travel for other divisions)

How about we start it’s fluke that non traditional franchises have predominantly won Cups since 1994 lockout, especially during cap era? Why not since the system is gained in their favor, top end UFAs / players via trade all wanting NY or warm weather / low cost locale?

 

[Andy]

If Caufield didn't get hurt he easily hits 40.

Yah, there is no doubt that he cracks the plateau in a healthy season. That shot, release, and precision is pretty elite, no exaggeration. I saw comparisons with Cammalleri, but Caufield has a far quicker release.

He's also one step ahead strategically than goalies and defensemen. Caufield already knows the opening and seam before defenders and goaltenders do.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Last I checked every team played by the same rules - Habs were built that offseason for big boy CDN division, which paid off

This Covid excuse is asinine, Leafs, Jets, Oilers, Nucks, Sens all played under same set of rules - and no US team had the grueling travel schedule of CDN teams to top it off (no cross time zone travel for other divisions)

The Leafs are the Leafs and every other team in that division sucked. The SCF run was a mirage.

 

[Andy]

Last I checked every team played by the same rules - Habs were built that offseason for big boy CDN division, which paid off

This Covid excuse is asinine, Leafs, Jets, Oilers, Nucks, Sens all played under same set of rules - and no US team had the grueling travel schedule of CDN teams to top it off (no cross time zone travel for other divisions)

Objectively speaking, the habs were a pretty shit team on the ice playing in a pretty shit division. Everyone had the same conditions, but those conditions were once in a generation exceptional. The team wasn't good and it took a very particular set of circumstances for them to have any on-paper success.

The team was not built for any sustainable for success, as evidenced by their general poor performance over multiple seasons in the Weber era by many metrics, and the fact that they finished last and 5th from the last the following two seasons.

They just weren't good. The cup thing was fun, but let's not get distracted by the reality of the poor construction of that club.

 

[salbutera]

Objectively speaking, the habs were a pretty shit team on the ice playing in a pretty shit division. Everyone had the same conditions, but those conditions were once in a generation exceptional. The team wasn't good and it took a very particular set of circumstances for them to have any on-paper success.

The team was not built for any sustainable for success, as evidenced by their general poor performance over multiple seasons in the Weber era by many metrics, and the fact that they finished last and 5th from the last the following two seasons.

They just weren't good. The cup thing was fun, but let's not get distracted by the reality of the poor construction of that club.

So many things have to go right for any team to make the Cup finals let alone win.

Bottom line: Habs elite players led by Price played elite, hey they even defeated this years Cup champs or was that a mirage too?

The Leafs are the Leafs and every other team in that division sucked. The SCF run was a mirage.

But here I read constantly to win you need elite talent…. no division had the number of elite talents Cdn division did: McDavid, Draisaitl, Matthews etc.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

So many things have to go right for any team to make the Cup finals let alone win.

Bottom line: Habs elite players led by Price played elite, hey they even defeated this years Cup champs or was that a mirage too?


But here I read constantly to win you need elite talent…. no division had the number of elite talents Cdn division did: McDavid, Draisaitl, Matthews etc.

Insert strawman here.

You need elite talent in combination with a good hockey team. You know... like Tampa. When they won. Multiple times.

This strange argument against elite talent I see here sometimes has got to be one of my favorite Hab fan copes.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Because we continue to need offensive power and high end prospects who aren’t critically flawed in one way or another (eg Farrell, Roy, etc).

Strong puck-possession D-men add a lot to offense.