Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Jaynki]

Part of what makes Reinbachers stats so unique is that he played such massive minutes at such a young age in a good league. There isn’t a lot to compare it to.

But looking a bit deeper, the reason he played such massive minutes is that he had such a mature defensive game. In terms of offence in the NHL, the tools are much more of McDonagh like than some of the elite offensive dmen in the NHL.

McDonagh was a terrific skater and nice physicality but Reinbacher is just so much better in transition and to carry the puck. He also has better hands, vision and shot

I would argue he is way closer to Doughty than McDonagh.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Part of what makes Reinbachers stats so unique is that he played such massive minutes at such a young age in a good league. There isn’t a lot to compare it to.

But looking a bit deeper, the reason he played such massive minutes is that he had such a mature defensive game. In terms of offence in the NHL, the tools are much more of McDonagh like than some of the elite offensive dmen in the NHL.

He's obviously not Makar or Karlsson, and he may never get more than 40 points in a season. That's a thing that could happen. But I don't think that's an upper limit for Reinbacher. I think he's got more in the tank.

 

[ReHabs]

Had we drafted Michkov, do you think Hughes would have said that he projects him to be a 100 points, franchise winger or something more along the lines of top six winger who should thrive on the pp?

Hughes didn’t exactly downplay Slafkovksy last year.

 

[Jaynki]

Hughes didn’t exactly downplay Slafkovksy last year.

Can you remind me what he said ?

 

[Belial]

Can you remind me what he said ?

Exactly... He said that they aren't drafting the best player today but the best player in the future!

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

He's obviously not Makar or Karlsson, and he may never get more than 40 points in a season. That's a thing that could happen. But I don't think that's an upper limit for Reinbacher. I think he's got more in the tank.

Forgetting ceiling and floor for a minute, describe who you think Reinbacher will be?

 

[ReHabs]

Can you remind me what he said ?

Lots of praise for Slafkovsky’s intangibles and referred to him as a difference maker. Nothing concrete in this presser and I’m on my phone so can’t search other pressers but going off memory I don’t feel like he expressed any doubt or concern about Slaf’s abilities in any way. Unlike with Reinbacher.

Hughes on Slafkovsky: 'It's his desire to be a difference-maker' | Montréal Canadiens

After talking with Juraj Slafkovsky, the Canadiens were sold on making him their top choice

www.nhl.com

 

[Andy]

Zadina is on waivers. Good reminder for everyone to chill about draft day selections.

 

[Mrb1p]

But seriously, offensive comparisons at the same point in their careers, McDonagh never achieved NHLe parity with what Reinbacher did this year, not even in his D+3.

bUt StAtS aReNt EveRyThInG

I must add that Mcdonagh, as a prospect, never looked as good.

Part of what makes Reinbachers stats so unique is that he played such massive minutes at such a young age in a good league. There isn’t a lot to compare it to.

But looking a bit deeper, the reason he played such massive minutes is that he had such a mature defensive game. In terms of offence in the NHL, the tools are much more of McDonagh like than some of the elite offensive dmen in the NHL.

Reinbacher shoots much better than Mcdonagh though. His Ozone play is closer to Subban than it is Weber.

Hes just not as agile or as good a puck handler as Subban, but he makes up for it with brains, size and speed.

Can you remind me what he said ?

He said, paraphrasing, that he was drafting Slaf to be the best player down the line, in 5 years.

Zadina is on waivers. Good reminder for everyone to chill about draft day selections.

And Tkachuk, Hughes and KK are all established in the NHL, majority of draft boys wanted one of those, not Zadina.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I mean they where not going to publicly say that they where not drafting him, you need to keep value on that pick it someone wants to trade up

Personally, I found they did the perfect job of preparing us that we wouldn’t take
him. Most main media where saying it was between Will Smith (if available), David Reinbacher and Ryan Leonard

I agree. I actually think the fact that fans KNEW the Habs were likely not going to pick Michkov made them ANGRIER.

Like on HFHabs - everyone knew the Habs were likely not picking him, but the Reinbacher pick caused a monumental earth shattering meltdown nonetheless.

 

[Sorinth]

I agree. I actually think the fact that fans KNEW the Habs were likely not going to pick Michkov made them ANGRIER.

Like on HFHabs - everyone knew the Habs were likely not picking him, but the Reinbacher pick caused a monumental earth shattering meltdown nonetheless.

True, and it probably also didn't help that we lost out on PLD the day before either.

 

[Rapala]

True, and it probably also didn't help that we lost out on PLD the day before either.

The funny thing is many of the crew who felt we weren't getting Michkov felt the same about PLD. For me maybe I was reading the situation wrong but I felt they didn't seem to be the types of players we are hoping to build with.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Guy Boucher loves the pick, says that the swiss league is better than the AHL.

He should play in the AHL then, ASAP. To get used to the ice and his future teammates.

 

[26Mats]

He should play in the AHL then, ASAP. To get used to the ice and his future teammates.

Apparently, he really wants to finish his program of studies that requires 1 more year.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Apparently, he really wants to finish his program of studies that requires 1 more year.

Too bad.

 

[Mrb1p]

I wonder how they navigate the whole NHL or not thing lol. I guess theres the easy excuse that he wants to go to school? As if programs didnt exist for him to finish while being over.

 

[26Mats]

Too bad.

Yeah, if it's best for him to get used to the North American Ice surface, I hope HuGo can convince him to come over and finish his studies in the summers/distance.

Either way, Laval is going to be sweet to watch this year:

Dmen: Reinbacher(?), Mailloux, Struble, Norlinder, Trudeau, Beaudin

Forwards: Roy, Kidney, Mesar, Beck(?), Simoneau, Davidson, Andrersson.

Goal: Dobes, Primeau(?)

 

[Frank Drebin]

I mean they where not going to publicly say that they where not drafting him, you need to keep value on that pick it someone wants to trade up

Personally, I found they did the perfect job of preparing us that we wouldn’t take
him. Most main media where saying it was between Will Smith (if available), David Reinbacher and Ryan Leonard

I find the whole michkov thing weird, how the insiders and scouts talk about it.

Friedman had a scout on before and after the draft, and he asked him about the Reinbacher pick, if he viewed it as a surprise (obviously alluding to passing over michkov) and he simply said "no, we all know how valuable big rhd are"

This same guy said (pre draft) that if michkov was in na he'd likely go 2 oa. He also had Leonard as a possible top 5 pick

Maybe it's the nature of sports journalism but it feels like no one wants to go out on a limb and comment, good or bad.

 

[Jaynki]

Lots of praise for Slafkovsky’s intangibles and referred to him as a difference maker. Nothing concrete in this presser and I’m on my phone so can’t search other pressers but going off memory I don’t feel like he expressed any doubt or concern about Slaf’s abilities in any way. Unlike with Reinbacher.

Hughes on Slafkovsky: 'It's his desire to be a difference-maker' | Montréal Canadiens

After talking with Juraj Slafkovsky, the Canadiens were sold on making him their top choice

www.nhl.com

Ok. Personally i don't take anything from what he said both on Slaf and on Reinbacher.

I don't feel he pumped Slafkovsky nor does i felt he expressed doubt about Reinbacher upside.

Its a case where i believe actions speak louder than words. He drafted Slaf above Cooley and Wright. He drafted Reinbacher above Michkov and Leonard.

Thats all i need to know to feel what Hughes and his brass may see in these players

 

[Belial]

Apparently, he really wants to finish his program of studies that requires 1 more year.

He said later that he could do it online!

Yeah, if it's best for him to get used to the North American Ice surface, I hope HuGo can convince him to come over and finish his studies in the summers/distance.

Either way, Laval is going to be sweet to watch this year:

Dmen: Reinbacher(?), Mailloux, Struble, Norlinder, Trudeau, Beaudin, Norlinder

Forwards: Roy, Kidney, Mesar, Beck(?), Simoneau, Davidson, Andrersson.

Goal: Dobes, Primeau(?)

For Beck it's OHL or NHL.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Ultimately the floor of Reinbacher was valued over the ceiling of Michkov. There’s no use arguing about it further. Either Michkov will surpass Reinbacher or he won’t. If you guys want to argue something how about this:

Let’s say Reinbacher becomes a high quality #2 Dman- top pair, 2nd unit PP, high end defence and 40ish points a season.

What type of production does Michkov need to have to surpass that? 80p? 90p? 100p? And let’s assume Michkov is a defensive liability winger ala Hoffman.

It's true. Also I think the ceiling of Reinbacher might be higher as well. So they went with the higher floor, higher ceiling prospect in David Reinbacher. But Michkov is good too. He went #7 in a strong draft.

 

[HabsCode]

Warmed up to the pick. Hopefully he becomes a top paring two-way defenseman munching around 25 minutes a games.

Still think habs lack 1 superstar up front.

 

[Bombshell11]

The only thing i dislike is his body language.. seems lik

Warmed up to the pick. Hopefully he becomes a top paring two-way defenseman munching around 25 minutes a games.

Still think habs lack 1 superstar up front.

thats by design, Molson doesn't want a player that's bigger than the club

 

[Runner77]

This will probably read like some sort of copy pasta, but whatever.

I have a friend who works for TVA Sports, and was in Nashville to help their draft coverage. He and some other employees ran into Michkov twice during the week. First time, Michkov was with a cowboy boots seller, where he was yelling at the vendor and threw the boots at him. Second time, was when Michkov arrived at the arena for Draft night where he threw a tantrum because there was a waiting line to get in. There is way more going on with Michkov than what you can see on the ice.

Michkov, the garden gnome, when he could not get his hands on elevator cowboy boots, it suddenly dawned on him as he flung the boots toward the salesperson, that he would be condemned to a life of midgetry.

The tantrum he later threw on account of people waiting in line at the arena was the direct result of losing out on the extra 5 inches of height from not buying the elevator cowboy boots and feeling like a child waiting at carnival rides, boxed in and having to stare at people’s lower backs and possibly at some ugly f***s with orangutan feet in sandals, while roasting in the sun.

Once inside the arena Michkov the Angry Midget got into several other altercations but only with kids as they were the only ones he could handle cleanly.

He left behind a trail of turbulence and several small fires that he started, as the people of Nashville breathed a sigh of relief when they saw him leaving. But yeah, he knows how to score goals.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

If Reinbacher becomes McDonagh, what does Michkov have to be to surpass that?

I think it's more about when he comes over. If he signs a second contract like Kaprisov did I think you'd prefer any other of the high picks to Michkov.