Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[waffledave]

Voracek is notorious for replying to hate tweets. A lot of them do. Marchessault too.

Nothing beats Tony DeAngelo who is willing to tank his career to reply to fan hate.

 

[BenchBrawl]

How should an intelligent fan rate Cole Caufield’s defensive game?
Fine? Strong? Weak? Absent?
seems to me most dont even care if he ever goes on other side of the ice.

Indeed.

 

[Rapala]

Stars won't sign here.

Stars won't sign here because we've run a piss poor organization going back to the eighties. We've been arrogant and simple minded thinking we had some kind of magic formula and divine right. Gainey signed some free agents because he sold his vision and they bought in and that is how it works. Sure Montreal is a fishbowl and everyone knows it but it's also the best and biggest god damned aquarium on the planet for hockey when things are done properly. How many free agents do you think Bergevin could attract when he goes from an ECF one year to claiming the following season is a transition. I don't get why people can't see what we have to accomplish to turn things around. It starts with the everyday mundane the people you surround yourself with and the atmosphere you create in the work environment. I have no doubt we can sign the best of the best if the vision HuGo has comes to fruition.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I don't consider those "red flags" to be very serious, personally.

A real red flag is Shane Wright not even looking like a 1st rounder after you watch several games of him, and then him coming out and claiming he deserves to be #1. THAT'S a red flag. If Michkov, who is f***ing amazing, is having a bit of an ego trip in Russia, it's not ideal, but it's far from sufficient reason to pass on him for me. Or the silly comments about his defensive game. Who f***ing cares? He's a 17 years old offensive phenom.

Red flag with drafting Michkov is we have a bunch of bozos, psychos and babies in our organization and fanbase that would probably create a safety hazard for Michkov before he could even come over

 

[Belial]

I'm fairly certain the people actually involved in the draft knew we weren't picking Michkov including Philadelphia who snuck him over to their facilities.
I believe the Habs Coms dept. thought they had done enough damage control with the blurbs that were coming out of our mainstream media a while ago.
That indeed was a total miscalculation. They stopped reporting on the spin they were trying to create and that wasn't smart. Michkov didn't fit their Ideology and they should have kept hammering away at that. Why are the Flyers trying to trade up? It can't be for Michkov because we aren't going in that direction and Arizona is not touching him with a ten foot pole. I think releasing stories like that could have helped mitigate the initial response by conditioning more peoples thought processes. As far as the crazies go however maybe you are right and they were lost causes no matter what.

Yeah right, we witnessed the same phenomenon right here on this board! And we have, I would like to believe, a more knowledgeable group around here than your regular fan!

A lot of posters were sure they will pass on Michkov for weeks before the draft!

The consensus just before the draft was Reinbacher or Leonard as their pick.

And there still was a huge meltdown when Reinbacher got drafted.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I think the Habs see Reinbacher as a future top45 dman rather than a future top15 dman. I could be wrong but that’s the impression I get with the “D2 who won’t run the power play” talk. It would be entitled and put unnecessary pressure on Reinbacher to expect more than that — it’s already very high expectations as it is.

Nothing wrong with that, just my impression.

I would hope that he's at least at the level of Noah Hanifin, who I would guess would come in somewhere between 20 and 30.

I'm not even sure who would be considered a top 45 guy, Toews from Colorado?

Sometimes these silly hfboards polls can be helpful.

 

[BLONG7]

I don't consider those "red flags" to be very serious, personally.

A real red flag is Shane Wright not even looking like a 1st rounder after you watch several games of him, and then him coming out and claiming he deserves to be #1. THAT'S a red flag. If Michkov, who is f***ing amazing, is having a bit of an ego trip in Russia, it's not ideal, but it's far from sufficient reason to pass on him for me. Or the silly comments about his defensive game. Who f***ing cares? He's a 17 years old offensive phenom.

Absolutely agree...........on most points.
The one thing I keep thinking about is, Boborov and knowing the inside story on this kid. Behind the scenes, what has happened, and all the red flags with everything going on in Russia.

I wanted the habs to get a forward in the first round, and since reading up on their taking the D, this kid is also a real good pick. And in the organizations eyes, a safer pick. Why a safer pick? We ma never really know...

 

[Vachon23]

I'm fairly certain the people actually involved in the draft knew we weren't picking Michkov including Philadelphia who snuck him over to their facilities.
I believe the Habs Coms dept. thought they had done enough damage control with the blurbs that were coming out of our mainstream media a while ago.
That indeed was a total miscalculation. They stopped reporting on the spin they were trying to create and that wasn't smart. Michkov didn't fit their Ideology and they should have kept hammering away at that. Why are the Flyers trying to trade up? It can't be for Michkov because we aren't going in that direction and Arizona is not touching him with a ten foot pole. I think releasing stories like that could have helped mitigate the initial response by conditioning more peoples thought processes. As far as the crazies go however maybe you are right and they were lost causes no matter what.

I mean they where not going to publicly say that they where not drafting him, you need to keep value on that pick it someone wants to trade up

Personally, I found they did the perfect job of preparing us that we wouldn’t take
him. Most main media where saying it was between Will Smith (if available), David Reinbacher and Ryan Leonard

 

[Jaynki]

I would hope that he's at least at the level of Noah Hanifin, who I would guess would come in somewhere between 20 and 30.

I'm not even sure who would be considered a top 45 guy, Toews from Colorado?

Sometimes these silly hfboards polls can be helpful.

It will be a disappointment if he ends up a Hanifin imo.

At 5OV, nothing less than a top pairing RD i would consider a failure. Dont ask for a Norris, but we need a 1RD out of it. Considering his DY and what he displayed at the WJC and WC (its only where i saw him this year apart from some small sample sequences in NLA), i expect a defenseman in the mould of a Heiskanen/Doughty/Pietrangelo.

 

[Vachon23]

Red flag with drafting Michkov is we have a bunch of bozos, psychos and babies in our organization and fanbase that would probably create a safety hazard for Michkov before he could even come over

We are not the only team that saw major red flags on Michkov…

Absolutely agree...........on most points.
The one thing I keep thinking about is, Boborov and knowing the inside story on this kid. Behind the scenes, what has happened, and all the red flags with everything going on in Russia.

I wanted the habs to get a forward in the first round, and since reading up on their taking the D, this kid is also a real good pick. And in the organizations eyes, a safer pick. Why a safer pick? We ma never really know...

Yep Bobrov had a major inside on how Michkov was in a lockeroom

 

[BLONG7]

I mean they where not going to publicly say that they where not drafting him, you need to keep value on that pick it someone wants to trade up

Personally, I found they did the perfect job of preparing us that we wouldn’t take
him. Most main media where saying it was between Will Smith (if available), David Reinbacher and Ryan Leonard

All, good players, so not sure on why the meltdown from so many. Count me as surprised when they took the D though...

 

[Rapala]

Yeah right, we witnessed the same phenomenon right here on this board! And we have, I would like to believe, a more knowledgeable group around here than your regular fan!

A lot of posters were sure they will pass on Michkov for weeks before the draft!

The consensus just before the draft was Reinbacher or Leonard as their pick.

And there still was a huge meltdown when Reinbacher got drafted.

Oh I thought you knew that I ignore posts that make no sense.
My bad for thinking the way I do.

 

[salbutera]

It will be a disappointment if he ends up a Hanifin imo.

At 5OV, nothing less than a top pairing RD i would consider a failure. Dont ask for a Norris, but we need a 1RD out of it.

??

Hanifin is a top pairing LD

 

[BenchBrawl]

Absolutely agree...........on most points.
The one thing I keep thinking about is, Boborov and knowing the inside story on this kid. Behind the scenes, what has happened, and all the red flags with everything going on in Russia.

I wanted the habs to get a forward in the first round, and since reading up on their taking the D, this kid is also a real good pick. And in the organizations eyes, a safer pick. Why a safer pick? We ma never really know...

I don't trust Bobrov as of yet. Talks a good game but does he have the depth? He reminds me of Christopher Nolan. This is just my gut feeling.

Still too early in his reign to be sure.

 

[Jaynki]

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Hanifin is a top pairing LD

Yes indeed. I think Guhle should reach this upside. I might be underselling Hanifin

I aim a bit higher with Reinbacher.

 

[Vachon23]

I don’t agree that much with those who says that Reinbacher is a safe pick

1 year ago, that kid wasn’t even rank as a prospect with potential and wasn’t training like a real futur pro. His progression have been massive all season long and I can’t imagine what type of level he can attempt with a full NHL prospect training this summer

 

[JRichard]

Yeah right, we witnessed the same phenomenon right here on this board! And we have, I would like to believe, a more knowledgeable group around here than your regular fan!

A lot of posters were sure they will pass on Michkov for weeks before the draft!

The consensus just before the draft was Reinbacher or Leonard as their pick.

And there still was a huge meltdown when Reinbacher got drafted.

Would like to discuss « a lot » and « consensus ». Poll on this board started June 16 had Draft Michkov at 5 with 57% and draft David at 5 with 1.1%.

98.9% were both surprised and stunned, no?

With all the other trade down - trade up scenarios who received many votes.

edit: since last night Get David at 5 got more votes Lol. Now at 1.5%. 4 days later. Unreal.

 

[Sorinth]

How should an intelligent fan rate Cole Caufield’s defensive game?
Fine? Strong? Weak? Absent?
seems to me most dont even care if he ever goes on other side of the ice.

I'll go with underrated.

He's got a good stick and as a result steals a fair number of pucks in all 3 zones so he's actually does provide a decent defensive game. He's also good at getting the puck out of the D-zone when pressured by the opposing D at the line. He'll likely never be a go to defensive player but he's not a guy you have to shelter either.

 

[Goldthorpe]

I don't trust Bobrov as of yet. Talks a good game but does he have the depth? He reminds me of Christopher Nolan. This is just my gut feeling.

My gut feeling is that you don't trust him because it's convenient to do so, as he didn't draft Michkov but you would.

 

[Rapala]

I mean they where not going to publicly say that they where not drafting him, you need to keep value on that pick it someone wants to trade up

Personally, I found they did the perfect job of preparing us that we wouldn’t take
him. Most main media where saying it was between Will Smith (if available), David Reinbacher and Ryan Leonard

No that is true but one of the reasons I would have passed on Michkov is I've seen too many points driven players over the years become a drain on the team when they needed it most. Little hints like that. Correct me if I'm wrong but those negative takes dried up completely to the point people began to believe it was possible we were going to take him.

 

[BLONG7]

I don’t agree that much with those who says that Reinbacher is a safe pick

1 year ago, that kid wasn’t even rank as a prospect with potential and wasn’t training like a real futur pro. His progression have been massive all season long and I can’t imagine what type of level he can attempt with a full NHL prospect training this summer

I think the safe pick, as in no turmoil regarding politics, etc
Not to mention Michkov's dad's mysterious passing away etc

 

[BaseballCoach]

Let's go with PPG and 40 goals as realistic for now.

Sure for now, no problem. But Ceiling is plausibly higher if and when Guhle and Reinbacher have a couple more years under their belt and if Matheson can still dominate the play.

 

[Rapala]

All, good players, so not sure on why the meltdown from so many. Count me as surprised when they took the D though...

Yeah me too but looking back it would not have changed the idea that we were drafting for need because we don't have a Leonard type in our program.
The backlash would have been just as fierce only that girl would be presenting the notebook to Leonard and not Reinbacher.

 

[JRichard]

No that is true but one of the reasons I would have passed on Michkov is I've seen too many points driven players over the years become a drain on the team when they needed it most. Little hints like that. Correct me if I'm wrong but those negative takes dried up completely to the point people began to believe it was possible we were going to take him.

Renaud Lavoie interviewed Hughes seconds before the draft and all his questions were around Michkov.

 

[SupRocket]

This will probably read like some sort of copy pasta, but whatever.

I have a friend who works for TVA Sports, and was in Nashville to help their draft coverage. He and some other employees ran into Michkov twice during the week. First time, Michkov was with a cowboy boots seller, where he was yelling at the vendor and threw the boots at him. Second time, was when Michkov arrived at the arena for Draft night where he threw a tantrum because there was a waiting line to get in. There is way more going on with Michkov than what you can see on the ice.

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I was looking forward to have an attacker with star potential out of the draft this year, but if we drafted the best defenseman in the draft that happens also to play on the right side, that could be also a massive win for the franchise.