Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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Amateur scouting is not easy science when you think of it . You have to compare a Switzerland league defenseman with a USHL forward or a Q backup goalie...

I feel like his play @ the world juniors solidified his place in the top 12, he just got better after that, showed up at the worlds and played great until he was injured, and pretty much nailed it as the top d.

this doesn't mean he'll be the best d out of the draft, but the tools, he reminds me of Pietrangelo, hopefully he puts it all together.
 
I think Hughes wanting to move up was only a game to confuse Grier about his intentions. Im pretty sure Reinbacher was their guy all along. had SJ picked Reinbacher, there is a good possibility Habs trade down. But thats only my opinion, no certainty about that, we will never know.
Yeah I think we were taking Reinbacher over Smith if San Jose took Michkov
 
Interesting.....................wouldn't a journalist want to ask Boborov his thoughts on a Russian player?
He then, may or may not also tell the truth, or give the political answer?
Another poster here said that rumor came from Alex Gascon. Make of that what you will.

Yea for sure bobrov wouldn't risk his job to leak stuff unless instructed by Hugo.
 
The more I read about this kid the more I understand why the Habs drafted him. Fans need to give this kid a fair chance.

The reality is, -If- he reach his potential he will be the kind of player the Habs cannot acquire outside the draft.

You need to pay through the nose to acquire a first pairing RHD via trade and we don't have the assets to make it happen.
On the FAs market, that kind of player have a ton of options, they're highly sought-after because every team want one, and what happen when the Habs have competition to sign a player? Spoiler: They sign somewhere else.

The Habs still need to find offensive talents, but that's another story for another time.
 
Kinda sad that we have to state it.
Decent folks don't act this way.
The reality is, -If- he reach his potential he will be the kind of player the Habs cannot acquire outside the draft.

You need to pay through the nose to acquire a first pairing RHD via trade and we don't have the assets to make it happen.
On the FAs market, that kind of player have a ton of options, they're highly sought-after because every team want one, and what happen when the Habs have competition to sign a player? Spoiler: They sign somewhere else.

The Habs still need to find offensive talents, but that's another story for another time.
Imagine having a similar talent to Moritz Seider...could happen
 
You need to pay through the nose to acquire a first pairing RHD via trade and we don't have the assets to make it happen.
They just aren't available unless they ask out (like Trouba in WPG) or leave their team to hit the UFA market (Pietrangelo).

Top pairing RHD are a rare piece of the puzzle and worth a lot. They are right up there with 1C's.
 
I normally agree with a lot of your posts but seems to me you’re reaching on this one in what looks like an attempt at all costs to justify not taking Michkov.

What if Michkov’s not a head case? Kid lost his father in mysterious circumstances not long ago — does he get any consideration for what that can do to a young man’s life?

This whole Bobrov would know thing can only go so far. Habs have their sources but what if the Flyers had actionable intel of their own, that the Habs missed out on?

You’re bringing up random reports questioning his mental makeup when you know all too well that none of them have come from reliable and authoritative sources.

Sure, don’t give Brière the benefit of the doubt. Has Bobrov done anything to earn your trust? I’m personally on the fence about him and his Rangers record is spotty at best. He’s shown himself to be a very invasive kind of guy, who likes to swing above his station. Remember how he was a European scout but when we saw behind the screen footage of Ranger war rooms, he took over? How well did his decisions go?

This is the guy you want to place your trust in over Brière? Bobrov looks like a slick snake oil salesman — lots of sizzle and little steak.

Amateur hour with the leaks? Brière was just named GM at the most critical juncture, is it not possible that mistakes were made? That he doesn’t have all of his personnel in place?

As much as he made mistakes, he did use the media to try and get the Habs off the scent. He also convinced Michkov and his family to spend time with him in Philly, where he got way more direct contact with the young man than Hughes did. Did the Habs go the extra mile like that, when everyone had said that access to him had been difficult in Russia? Should Hughes not have invested more one on one time given how many claimed that Michkov’s talent was close to Bedard’s?

Then you go and throw in a completely irrelevant incident involving Briere’s son. Did Brière have anything to do with it? If you have kids, you should know that they may be prone to irresponsible acts. Does that make you a bad father? Does it impair Briere’s judgment as a GM? What the hell are you doing twisting a sorry incident like that to bash Brière? FWIW, excuses were presented and Brière did what any father would have done. His son learned a big lesson. Why bring this up? To make Reinbacher look better? Sheesh!

Do you have some kind of score to settle with Brière? You scraped the bottom of the barrel by bringing up the torch ceremony when he was a Hab. How do you know that he has anything to do with the role he played in it? How do you know that he was behind Lafleur handing him the torch? More important, how does a ceremonial act from many years ago, impact Briere’s capabilities as a GM? Completely ludicrous.

As for Brière passing up the Habs for a contract when in his prime, it’s been reported that he really wanted to come over but had a difficult decision on account of his wife being an American and not wanting to move.

Still feel like appealing to this management team’s authority after the way they handled the draft and the contradictory rationales they provided after the draft? How did you like Hughes telling us that Orville couldn’t run a 1st wave PP? That he did not project as a 1D? That they drafted by need with a 5th OA pick and may not have picked the BPA in a forward heavy draft? This was not “amateur hour” to you but Brière who nabbed Michkov without having to pay extra for the privilege, was an amateur?

You must love “culture” cause your good buddies Lapointe and Bobrov were serving it by the buckets and making it a dominating aspect of their drafting approach. What happened to emphasizing talent first and foremost? Culture edging out elite scoring talent, is that a winning recipe to you?

As for the scouting reports about Michkov’s alleged deficiencies that you read — did you have access to the Habs’ or the Flyers’ due diligence? Do you realize how limiting and limitative that kind of source is? Where are the multiple live viewings supporting those reports? Were you briefed on the analytics? Did you have scouting meetings? You’re going to trust random “reports” for a player from a country engaged in war that the professionals had trouble getting access to? Let me guess, you did all this from your couch using a laptop.

Clearly, the Flyers don’t believe that Michkov has “stagnated”. I think I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt over a fan piecing together the most absurd and disjointed of assumptions and claims from his living room.

I normally don’t answer posts with so much detail but my goodness, I couldn’t believe how far you went just to support a fantastical theory.

Talk to me once Michkov has performed in the NHL. We’ll see then if Brière was such a numbskull.

Yup...that is long and detailed, and very defensive. I always enjoyed your posts as well and am disappointed that you took things to a personal level over a hockey debate.

None of what I said about Michkov isn't already out there. Maybe I went over the top about Briere and his son (who has now been kicked off two college teams) but I'd take your scolding more serious if I didn't read your constant posts slamming and making fun of hockey personalities as well as media members. I actually find many of your posts humorous as I treat this site as an outlet from reality.

Trying to make Reinbacher look good? Former NHL players who play against him in the Swiss league are currently doing that.

The silliest part about you getting so personal is all the crossed the line venom that several Michkov cultists have been spewing all over social media towards Reinbacher. I was hoping we'd draft Leonard like many others. It's amazing that none of the Leonard fanatics are acting like members of a lunatic fringe cult throwing misguided meltdowns.

Fantastical theory. Haha! Enjoy your weekend. Maybe get some fresh air and distance yourself from a cult that can't understand how a generational talent got passed over by 6 teams when teams had no issues drafting Russians.
 
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Daniel Winnik, a 11 year NHL vet played against him this past year and is really singing his praises. The highlights of this kid are incredible, speed, skating with the puck, rubbing players out, I can see why the Habs picked him.

He plays with aggression, if they don't rush him they're getting a player on a very rapid development curve.
 
I normally agree with a lot of your posts but seems to me you’re reaching on this one in what looks like an attempt at all costs to justify not taking Michkov.

What if Michkov’s not a head case? Kid lost his father in mysterious circumstances not long ago — does he get any consideration for what that can do to a young man’s life?

This whole Bobrov would know thing can only go so far. Habs have their sources but what if the Flyers had actionable intel of their own, that the Habs missed out on?

You’re bringing up random reports questioning his mental makeup when you know all too well that none of them have come from reliable and authoritative sources.

Sure, don’t give Brière the benefit of the doubt. Has Bobrov done anything to earn your trust? I’m personally on the fence about him and his Rangers record is spotty at best. He’s shown himself to be a very invasive kind of guy, who likes to swing above his station. Remember how he was a European scout but when we saw behind the screen footage of Ranger war rooms, he took over? How well did his decisions go?

This is the guy you want to place your trust in over Brière? Bobrov looks like a slick snake oil salesman — lots of sizzle and little steak.

Amateur hour with the leaks? Brière was just named GM at the most critical juncture, is it not possible that mistakes were made? That he doesn’t have all of his personnel in place?

As much as he made mistakes, he did use the media to try and get the Habs off the scent. He also convinced Michkov and his family to spend time with him in Philly, where he got way more direct contact with the young man than Hughes did. Did the Habs go the extra mile like that, when everyone had said that access to him had been difficult in Russia? Should Hughes not have invested more one on one time given how many claimed that Michkov’s talent was close to Bedard’s?

Then you go and throw in a completely irrelevant incident involving Briere’s son. Did Brière have anything to do with it? If you have kids, you should know that they may be prone to irresponsible acts. Does that make you a bad father? Does it impair Briere’s judgment as a GM? What the hell are you doing twisting a sorry incident like that to bash Brière? FWIW, excuses were presented and Brière did what any father would have done. His son learned a big lesson. Why bring this up? To make Reinbacher look better? Sheesh!

Do you have some kind of score to settle with Brière? You scraped the bottom of the barrel by bringing up the torch ceremony when he was a Hab. How do you know that he has anything to do with the role he played in it? How do you know that he was behind Lafleur handing him the torch? More important, how does a ceremonial act from many years ago, impact Briere’s capabilities as a GM? Completely ludicrous.

As for Brière passing up the Habs for a contract when in his prime, it’s been reported that he really wanted to come over but had a difficult decision on account of his wife being an American and not wanting to move.

Still feel like appealing to this management team’s authority after the way they handled the draft and the contradictory rationales they provided after the draft? How did you like Hughes telling us that Orville couldn’t run a 1st wave PP? That he did not project as a 1D? That they drafted by need with a 5th OA pick and may not have picked the BPA in a forward heavy draft? This was not “amateur hour” to you but Brière who nabbed Michkov without having to pay extra for the privilege, was an amateur?

You must love “culture” cause your good buddies Lapointe and Bobrov were serving it by the buckets and making it a dominating aspect of their drafting approach. What happened to emphasizing talent first and foremost? Culture edging out elite scoring talent, is that a winning recipe to you?

As for the scouting reports about Michkov’s alleged deficiencies that you read — did you have access to the Habs’ or the Flyers’ due diligence? Do you realize how limiting and limitative that kind of source is? Where are the multiple live viewings supporting those reports? Were you briefed on the analytics? Did you have scouting meetings? You’re going to trust random “reports” for a player from a country engaged in war that the professionals had trouble getting access to? Let me guess, you did all this from your couch using a laptop.

Clearly, the Flyers don’t believe that Michkov has “stagnated”. I think I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt over a fan piecing together the most absurd and disjointed of assumptions and claims from his living room.

I normally don’t answer posts with so much detail but my goodness, I couldn’t believe how far you went just to support a fantastical theory.

Talk to me once Michkov has performed in the NHL. We’ll see then if Brière was such a numbskull.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it felt like the culture part was implying character issues in "others", as Bobrov said. Im pretty sure others was that one player. It definitely felt like a polite way to mention one was a fit the other wasn't. Likely if a team had passed over Yakupov for those types of issues they'd have said something similar.
 
Hah. Cult of Michkov. If he doesn't score 60 goals out of the gate (fair prediction for a 21 year old generational player) I wonder who will be scapegoated.

Calling either Bedard or Michkov generational is such an unrealistic bar to put on undersized players who don't have McDavids skating. It's not impossible as their production was out of this world, but man is it a high bar.
 
Calling either Bedard or Michkov generational is such an unrealistic bar to put on undersized players who don't have McDavids skating. It's not impossible as their production was out of this world, but man is it a high bar.
Bedard would have to put up like 130 + points or score 60 + goals more than once to be considered generational. It’s crazy how some throw out that word as if it’s normal.
 
Calling either Bedard or Michkov generational is such an unrealistic bar to put on undersized players who don't have McDavids skating. It's not impossible as their production was out of this world, but man is it a high bar.
It's super easy and fun to say, also fun to think about.

I seem to remember generational talk about Shane Wright back in 20/21, when he was putting up outstanding stats at the u18s. ( 9g, 14pts in 5 games) Maybe I'm misremembering.
 
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