Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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Its far better than the CHL, NCAA and the USHL ( where the majority of the draft eligible players came from). If Reinbacher played in the OHL he would have been a dominant player.
Swiss league is a really good league. Many Ahler would prefer to play in swiss than the AHL. But, it is difficult to get a job in this league. Im not sure, but I think there is a maximum of player a team can get from another country.
 
Take a deep deep breath hold it and then let it out slowly through your nose. We started out with next to nothing we are building one piece at a time.
If you actually believe that this is the roster we end up going to war with I just don't know...

People complaining that we got a roster ready player in Newhook for low odds draft picks are clueless IMO. Just take a look at our roster and try to convince me Newhook isn't an upgrade on some of the crap we've been tasking our top 3 or 4 players to work with. No one expects it will be perfect but it is better than it was. There is a draft every year. Players get moved every year. UFA's and RFA's become available every year. We are building a WAR CHEST and once we get closer to a playoff team we can use it to fix weaknesses and fill roles that aren't working out. At least with this group they won't sit on their hands when that moment arrives.
I wasn't mentioning Newhook. About him yeah he looks promising. I'm sure he is able to produce way more pts than what he did with Avs limited time. I think we are rebuilding fine with few peices here and there. We are in a trap with old overpaid vets, about 2 years for Hoff+Dvo. Gallagher, I prefer not thinking about him. If right now all the bad vets were gone out of the payroll, I would be smiling, and I guess you too bro.

About the weight it's not as a close idea in concrete, I think we could win with few small players but they must check more boxes and one of them is the speed, great speed. Stanley Cups winners are often a good group in the right age, 6 feet and more, they have a good system of play and together they create a pressure with their speed and grit. I mean, it looks very cliché but true it happens often that way.
 
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Hughes didn't say Reinbacher was their BPA. He said they wanted to fill a bucket with a RD. I wish he came out and said he was the highest guy on their board and didn't want to lose out on Reinbacher. Instead, he said RD was a bucket that needed to be filled so they drafted him.

This feels like when everyone tried to convince this board KK was the BPA, or people sinking on the MB ship right to the end.

Reinbacher is a fantastic prospect. Hughes words do not sound like BPA when they drafted Reinbacher.
I don't know...it sounds to me like Rein was their BPA.

With that said, there may have been another player they deemed equal in potential but Rein won out (because he was a RHD).
 
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I don't know...it sounds to me like Rein was their BPA.

With that said, there may have been another player they deemed equal in potential but Rein won out (because he was a RHD).

His original interview sounded different than this video. Sounds like he's trying to save face, but it it's clear habs rank by tier, which is probably fine after pick 20, but to tier the the top 10. I mean, it they wrote out their top 10 and just drafted the highest on the list, that would've great, but I don't get this impression. Seems like justifying picking their need in this interview.
 
Its far better than the CHL, NCAA and the USHL ( where the majority of the draft eligible players came from). If Reinbacher played in the OHL he would have been a dominant player.
There are 2 things that are obstacles for fan acceptance of the pick:

Your last sentence here and that he isn’t flashier. Had he played junior people would be far more excited because you could just see the talent disparity better between DB and his peers
 
Me too. I was sarcastic because its often what we hear.

I also think Hughes played it cool to temper expectations on Reinbacher

Too many people on here focus only on stats, and even then what he did in the NL is impressive for his age.

Anyone who watched him play understands why he has such a high floor and why a top pairing is definitely possible in his case.

People are raving about Sanderson, but I’m was more impressed by what Reinbacher could do on the ice especially this young.
 
Wow...welcome to the real world. It,s all great and fine to think that humanity doesn't contain humans....But for people who have experienced that world, and has seen Brisebois being booed like he was the worst human being on the planet, or watching Carey Price being booed 'cause he was unable to win all the games 1-0 etc.....as an organization...ANY organization....you need to open the lines of communications with your fans.

ESPECIALLY since the same fans or tons of them haven't seen 1 Cup in 30 years. A team who is supposed to be the greatest franchise in sports history. Or so most kids born after 1993 keep hearing.

The same fanbase who despite being lied to and receiving way more crap than they should, fill that arena and give standing ovations to their team for just trying.

At the very f***ING least, you need to know the room and TEMPER the expectations of people who were mostly behind their losing team because they were expecting to FINALLY get a superstar. I'm not even talking about the idiots who give hate messages to the kid. I'M also talking about the ones like me who wouldn't have picked David 'cause he was 8th on my list....becuase I really thought they were going to go for a forward.

At one point...just answer this....EVERYTHINK Lapointe and Bobrov said about Michkov is something they knew. Since....ever. They NEVER had a chance to watch him play. They knew that. They didn't just realize it when they MET Michkov this week. So....what was that meeting about?

Somehow, it was to show THE FANS that they were doing everything they should as an organizatoin. BUt it never really meant anything. So for people who said that the don't manage for the fans...well I guess a part of them do. They just decided to bet that it was better for the fans to show that the team was letting no stone left unturned...then to already temper the expectations by at the very least letting a few journalists know that we wouldn't pick him.
I really like you and have for years but you're being overly dramatic. Yes Bobrov's dad has all kinds of insight on the kid but good businesses still have to do their due diligence. Of course the evaluators and decision makers had to meet the kid before the draft. He was likely going to be available when it was their turn to pick. Afterall they were all in Nashville to work under the payroll and per diem of the Montreal Canadiens. I'm sure they met with Fantilli and Carlsson at the Combine knowing they wouldn't be available at #5...maybe even Bedard.

Like WTK so eloquently put it, the lines of communication were open to temper the expectations. Several beat writers wrote that they didn't think the Habs would take Michkov based on their insight. Hughes dropped some hints in press conferences right from lottery night. There's nothing they can do to control raving lunatics who barely know anything about the players and get all caught up in cult-like syndrome because Michkov was a huge phenom at age 16. I haven't seen one single person who wanted Ryan Leonard go apeshit about the pick.

The idiots crossing the line on social media should be held accountable for their own childish and antisocial behaviour. If they're not filling social media with lunatic rants about the Habs draft, they'll be doing it about some politician or some population group. Unfortunately much of this is inescapable in today's society no matter what strategies are used.

I guarantee you'd be all over the Habs brass even more if they said they weren't going to interview Michkov with the rationale that they didn't plan to take him anyway based on what they already know.
 
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His original interview sounded different than this video. Sounds like he's trying to save face, but it it's clear habs rank by tier, which is probably fine after pick 20, but to tier the the top 10. I mean, it they wrote out their top 10 and just drafted the highest on the list, that would've great, but I don't get this impression. Seems like justifying picking their need in this interview.
Oh, I know but we don't know what their list actually looked like. For all we know, #1 to #4 may have been set. #5 and #6 may have been a tie with Rein winning out by need. Then tiers from #7 to #12, then, etc. etc. Meaning, it could be both. From where we are, we just don't know so I wouldn't overthink it. At the very least, it does seem they don't pick by need as a priority, at least, not in the early rounds.
 
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Oh, I know but we don't know what their list actually looked like. For all we know, #1 to #4 may have been set. #5 and #6 may have been a tie with Rein winning out by need. Then tiers from #7 to #12, then, etc. etc. Meaning, it could be both. From where we are, we just don't know so I wouldn't overthink it. At the very least, it does seem they don't pick by need as a priority, at least, not in the early rounds.
The way he phrased I think we're talking about Ryan Leonard. Anything else wouldn't make sense and certainly not Michkov. If we didn't know before, this pretty much confirms he was on Montreal's no draft list.
 
Exactly. The kid doesn't need anymore pressure than he already has.

Even the Lapointe comment “it was unanimous” is insignificant to me. People are running with this like it’s actual truth.

Scouting department is a team, and teams stick together. The only reason this was said was to calm the temper of some fans and solidify their pick.
 
There are 2 things that are obstacles for fan acceptance of the pick:

Your last sentence here and that he isn’t flashier. Had he played junior people would be far more excited because you could just see the talent disparity better between DB and his peers
The reason why you take the ‘fans’ response with a grain of salt. I’m in the business and I hardly know 2% of the eligible draftees. Fans parrot what they read and hear (the dreaded consensus). Wright is the presumptive 1OA , how dare the Canadiens take that Slafkovsky player. Michkov is a generational player: how dare the team take an Austrian defenceman in his stead. The dreaded consensus rears it’s ugly head again. No independent assessment. Just blind adherence to the prevailing consensus. And anger when that consensus is ignored.
 
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Alex Gascon from Radio-Canada was at the draft and he said that he spoke with some execs, and one of them told him that during an interview, Michkov seemed like he did not care and 'rolled his eyes' when he was asked about his defensive side of the game or questions he did not like.

I mean, passing on an offensive talent like Michkov stings a bit (even though I was on Team-Reinbacher for months prior to the draft), but what if the kid just had no interest whatsoever in coming to the Habs?

Also Paul Boutilier, a renowned defense coach who has been working with a bunch of young NHL defensemen for years, is on the record for saying that Reinbacher is one of the biggest talents and quickest learners that he has worked with.
Daniel Winnik (800 games in the NHL and now plays against Reinbacher in the Swiss League) raved about his play against men. He said Craig Button's comparison to Adam Larsson is selling the kid short and that he's already a better skater, puck handler and has more poise than Larsson.
 
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Daniel Winnik (800 games in the NHL) now plays against Reinbacher in the Swiss League and raved about his play against men. He said Craig Button's comparison to Adam Larsson is selling the kid short and that he's already a better skater, puck handler and has more poise than Larsson.
Button is a vacuous twit.
 
The way he phrased I think we're talking about Ryan Leonard. Anything else wouldn't make sense and certainly not Michkov. If we didn't know before, this pretty much confirms he was on Montreal's no draft list.
How many players have viral vids of them executing 25 michigan goals in a row?
Is that alone tells about the personality?

Coming to terms with this pick , he looks good from what I seen. Seeing comments from other players / scouts has me encouraged. Huge D who can skate. Let’s suck for another year and get another piece up front please 😂
Any year, there are nice pieces up front. We don't have to worry about that.
 
His original interview sounded different than this video. Sounds like he's trying to save face, but it it's clear habs rank by tier, which is probably fine after pick 20, but to tier the the top 10. I mean, it they wrote out their top 10 and just drafted the highest on the list, that would've great, but I don't get this impression. Seems like justifying picking their need in this interview.
How is it clear they rank by tier?
 
How is it clear they rank by tier?

he basically said if theyre looking at a couple guys at a spot, they’ll go with positional need/culture fit. to me, that’s tiering the guys, so they probably had reinbacher Leonard and michkov in the same tier and selected reinbacher because we need rd
 
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Even the Lapointe comment “it was unanimous” is insignificant to me. People are running with this like it’s actual truth.

Scouting department is a team, and teams stick together. The only reason this was said was to calm the temper of some fans and solidify their pick.
I suspect a strong personality inside the club imposed his will on everyone. It’s happened elsewhere, scouts start finding positives for the player the executive likes. There’s stuff on the Internet on this scouting phenomenon.

The united front will just break when people start losing their job over this. Then, you’ll have them all run away from the pick when they look for another employment. Only then will we have the full story.
 
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