Recalled/Assigned: David Reinbacher Assigned to the Laval Rocket

[417]

So this is taking place in an alternate universe where we drafted him 3 years earlier and he busted 3 years earlier?

I think that's what was difficult for me to understand

Read the original post I made…the context I was trying to add, which didn’t seem all that contentious at the time, was that we’ve progressed as an organization because not too long ago, the thought of Norlinder fading away to Europe would have been very upsetting for fans.

Today we don’t care because he’s been surpassed on the organizational depth chart.

Either way, I think the poster who I originally replied too got the gist lol.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Read the original post I made…the context I was trying to add, which didn’t seem all that contentious at the time, was that we’ve progressed as an organization because not too long ago, the thought of Norlinder fading away to Europe would have been very upsetting for fans.

Today we don’t care because he’s been surpassed on the organizational depth chart.

Either way, I think the poster who I originally replied too got the gist lol.

The context I'll add to that is that he was surpassed on the depth chart by good players that MB added, which is what makes us not care. Do you agree with that?

 

[417]

The context I'll add to that is that he was surpassed on the depth chart by good players that MB added, which is what makes us not care. Do you agree with that?

I wasn’t taking aim at MB specifically so I don’t have an issue with that.

Organizationally, MB or not, I feel like we’re in a much healthier spot.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I wasn’t taking aim at MB specifically so I don’t have an issue with that.

Organizationally, MB or not, I feel like we’re in a much healthier spot.

The guy you were replying to said MB is to blame for his development. MB brought him over, played him in the NHL for 6 games, got fired, Norlinder got sent to the AHL, decided he didn't want to be in Laval, and left for Sweden after Berg got fired.

If Berg ruined him in 6 NHL games, that was a record breaking ruin.

Maybe we can find some common ground and blame the interim GM for his bust

 

[Redux91]

So?
Has he outskated and cartwheeled over everyone in practice yet?
Has he kept every single shot from reaching the net?
Has he grabbed the whiteboard and taken over running the practice yet??
What's he even doing for us!

Where the NEWS at MTL Media? Sheesh

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

The guy you were replying to said MB is to blame for his development. MB brought him over, played him in the NHL for 6 games, got fired, Norlinder got sent to the AHL, decided he didn't want to be in Laval, and left for Sweden after Berg got fired.

If Berg ruined him in 6 NHL games, that was a record breaking ruin.

Maybe we can find some common ground and blame the interim GM for his bust

It the player played 6 games and decided it was too much for him, he had been pissed enough after 6 games, played little time in Laval and was disgussed about MB, even after MB got fired, it tells about the degree of resilience of the guy. I mean if that is too much for him, maybe he doesn't have what it takes to succeed in NHL or the Habs. The logic doesn't hold.

So to connect Norlinder with MB makes no sense.

 

[417]

The guy you were replying to said MB is to blame for his development. MB brought him over, played him in the NHL for 6 games, got fired, Norlinder got sent to the AHL, decided he didn't want to be in Laval, and left for Sweden after Berg got fired.

If Berg ruined him in 6 NHL games, that was a record breaking ruin.

Maybe we can find some common ground and blame the interim GM for his bust

To be honest, I really didn't focus on the MB part of his posts...honest. I wasn't trying to pile on MB, i'm not as harsh on his tenure as most are/were. I mean, he left us with some pretty bad contracts, but I don' t think it was ALL bad over his tenure (ducks for cover).

 

[Sam de Mtl]

Mysak learned what Norlinder is living.. if Houle decides he doesn't like you, there's nothing you can do.

It's fine, we can handle the loss of Norlinder, years ago we couldn't.. but hard to know how things would have played out if MB and Houle had handled him differently.

Norlinder's failure is because of him alone this season. He looked good in a very specific role during camp, which is PP specialist. He followed that up by playing terribly defensively in the A. Why would anyone gift him more icetime then?

Not every prospect will reach the NHL. He had a good stab at it, but it's coming to an end for him now.

 

[Rapala]

Not sure how someone can say this with a straight face seeing the total 180 we've done in a few years since Bergevin left.



No, just like Ylonen in the NHL - he hasn't forced any hands since his camp this year. Liked the prospect, had some hopes, didn't like how MB-Houle handled him, and he hasn't really blown the doors off with the opportunities he has gotten and is being passed by many on the depth chart.

True.
The other thing is with the number of picks and prospects coming up in the next little while the turnover rate is going to get accelerated.
It's only recently I started hearing about number of contracts being an issue unless I totally missed the discussions in years past.
Like it or not we may have to make decisions on players we would prefer to let percolate a little bit longer.
This is where a faulty staff can really hurt you.

I liked what I was seeing out of Mysak in his most recent games but was it enough to potentially displace someone down the road I doubt it.
Fortunately I don't think Houle has anything more than a say on player movement there must have a been a consensus in Mysak's case.
The debate regarding usage has been around longer than you or I and every coach has their favorites.

 

[MasterD]

So?
Has he outskated and cartwheeled over everyone in practice yet?
Has he kept every single shot from reaching the net?
Has he grabbed the whiteboard and taken over running the practice yet??
What's he even doing for us!

Where the NEWS at MTL Media? Sheesh

I want to know what he had for breakfast. Has he had Poutine yet? St-Viateur Bagels?

Priorities.

True.
The other thing is with the number of picks and prospects coming up in the next little while the turnover rate is going to get accelerated.
It's only recently I started hearing about number of contracts being an issue unless I totally missed the discussions in years past.
Like it or not we may have to make decisions on players we would prefer to let percolate a little bit longer.
This is where a faulty staff can really hurt you.

I liked what I was seeing out of Mysak in his most recent games but was it enough to potentially displace someone down the road I doubt it.
Fortunately I don't think Houle has anything more than a say on player movement there must have a been a consensus in Mysak's case.
The debate regarding usage has been around longer than you or I and every coach has their favorites.

Mysak is/was just a non-factor either way. No way he was making the Habs. If the Habs don't have time to let some borderline prospects simmer to see if they can't hang on to a 4th line role by a thread in the future, that's going to be great news. Means we'll have better players in those spots.

 

[River Meadow]

So?
Has he outskated and cartwheeled over everyone in practice yet?
Has he kept every single shot from reaching the net?
Has he grabbed the whiteboard and taken over running the practice yet??
What's he even doing for us!

Where the NEWS at MTL Media? Sheesh

I think expectations need to be kept in check.... he is still only a kid...

 

[habbubba]

My sources say he will be a very good player,reliable but don't expect Makar type offensive numbers.

 

[McGees]

I’m old enough to remember when Norlinder was compared to Lidstrom.

 

[le_sean]

I’m old enough to remember when Norlinder was compared to Lidstrom.

He was always vastly overrated here. “Oh he could get more points” but never did. A PP specialist that doesn’t improve the PP.

 

[salbutera]

Sprockets!! Dieter “is happy like a little girl…now we dance!”

 

[cphabs]

Will he be back next year?

 

[Koivu11]

I’m old enough to remember when Norlinder was compared to Lidstrom.

I remember Avtsin being compared to Ovechkin.

Why do we do this to ourselves?

 

[teamfirst]

I’m old enough to remember when Norlinder was compared to Lidstrom.

Overhyping our prospect........nah we dont do that here sir, we have the knowledge here sir

 

[Mudz]

So?
Has he outskated and cartwheeled over everyone in practice yet?
Has he kept every single shot from reaching the net?
Has he grabbed the whiteboard and taken over running the practice yet??
What's he even doing for us!

Where the NEWS at MTL Media? Sheesh

The Rocket was off today. Sadly we won't know much. Unless Michel Villeneuve decided to go hide in the bushes in front of his hotel, like usual.

 

[cphabs]

Easier to blame faulty development than for HF posters to admit faulty prospect evaluations, I guess.

One word… Lefebvre.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

To be honest, I really didn't focus on the MB part of his posts...honest. I wasn't trying to pile on MB, i'm not as harsh on his tenure as most are/were. I mean, he left us with some pretty bad contracts, but I don' t think it was ALL bad over his tenure (ducks for cover).

I respect it I looked at your initial reply and understand what you meant. My apologies I'd throw you a like if I could but those privileges are long gone

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

He was always vastly overrated here. “Oh he could get more points” but never did. A PP specialist that doesn’t improve the PP.

He just had 2 or 3 jaw dropping plays in Sweden that made me want him to succeed so bad. He had legit the nastiest 2 goals any of our prospects had in years 1 season, but he was always a longshot with his defensive play

 

[schwang26]

It’s funny how many people are arguing over a guy who got passed in the depth chart by a LOT of other defencemen, some of which not even playing professional hockey yet. Just like most players, Norlinder makes the odd play where people get impressed. It doesn’t make him a future nhler. He’s just not good enough offensively to overcome his defensive shortcomings. Nor is he physical at all.

 

[Chili]

Easier to blame faulty development than for HF posters to admit faulty prospect evaluations, I guess.

'He was a first round draft pick'

This seems like a permanent label used by fans, media and NHL management that adds levels of expectation that may not have ever been reasonable. These kids don't decide where they are drafted but they do have to live with the results. Doesn't matter where they were drafted really, if they don't continually progress, others will bypass them sooner or later.

 

[Team_Spirit]

The Rocket was off today. Sadly we won't know much. Unless Michel Villeneuve decided to got hide in the bushes in front of his hotel, like usual.

He's simply mingling with the hockey bros in ste cath