Player Discussion David Quinn: Part II

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Quinn won't be here when this team is ready to make some noise. I'm not worried. Unless this team gets to the second round in 2021, he's gone.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Is it safe to say we are not making the playoffs again?

What was the point of playing Fogarty for 3 minutes? If you have no confidence in him then why call him up?

Hopefully Quinn is not back next season.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Is it safe to say we are not making the playoffs again?

I believe this was a given before the season even started.

 

[will1066]

Quinn needs to bottle last night and open it each game the rest of the way.

You know the cliche of a team just finding their groove and clicking at a certain point in a season. Hope last night was it.

 

[Brief Candle]

I gave him a D. I think he has a lot to learn as to what players to have out in certain situations, as well as how to deal with the refs. It ends up costing us. Regardless, I also see that like our young team, he also has room to grow into this job. I'd love to see a change up in the assistant positions, to be honest. I think he needs some newer, fresher perspectives to work with.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

He desperately needs to change his staff

I don’t see him getting fired until mid season next year at the earliest

But if he was smart he’d be making staff changes sooner rather than later

 

[haohmaru]

Quinn's tenure has been Ruff so far












I had to. I'm sorry.

 

[LokiDog]

If they wanna let Quinn run his course for another year that’s fine, but I fully expect to be frustrated and flabbergasted by his line/time distribution, faux-accountability and lack of any kind of structure. Realistically he simply isn’t up to snuff as an NHL coach, but if we replace him a year from today that’s fine with me. He will not be the coach when this team is ready to contend again. Zero doubt a

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Quinn's tenure has been Ruff so far












I had to. I'm sorry.

Quinntessential pun right there

 

[True Blue]

So does anyone actually want to talk about him benching Kakko I’m the third after the rest of the game he had? Yea he made a mistake, but what does that teach him?

To start with? Accountability.

And would Quinn have done the same if it was one of his golden pony boys ? Is no one else legitimately concerned with how he rewards some players and punishes others ? If a similar situation happens like what happened to Lias, it’s extremely alarming.

Yes, he would have and had. And which "golden boys" are referring to? Just a way to get Howden into the conversation?

 

[True Blue]

I fully expect to be frustrated and flabbergasted by his line/time distribution, faux-accountability and lack of any kind of structure.

Defensive structure we can talk about, but what is the problem with time distribution and who does not get held accountable?

 

[LokiDog]

Defensive structure we can talk about, but what is the problem with time distribution and who does not get held accountable?

Howden going to get benched for a single minor penalty in a game where he has a goal and assist? Staal gonna sit an entire period for one penalty? McKegg and Staal are getting ice time while trailing a goal with less than 2 minutes remaining. That’s a problem with distribution. It’s not just about the total minutes played. The situational awareness is awful. He starts a terrible line in the offensive zone, after a long tv timeout or in the dying minutes of a game we’re trailing in frequently. There’s very little doubt he plays favorites and does not equally apply his accountability and that he deploys lines erratically and in some head scratching ways.

 

[True Blue]

Howden going to get benched for a single minor penalty in a game where he has a goal and assist? Staal gonna sit an entire period for one penalty?

So other than the usual diatribes about Howden & Stall, there really is nothing?

McKegg and Staal are getting ice time while trailing a goal with less than 2 minutes remaining. That’s a problem with distribution. It’s not just about the total minutes played. The situational awareness is awful.

They clearly do not trust the rookies to be protecting leads. Lindgren is only now starting to earn some trust. Justifiably, they also do not want DeAngelo out there. So you are down to Sjkei vs. Staal. To be honest, not sure if the former was just out on the ice or not. That what they felt like doing. You can disagree, but that has nothing to do with favoritism.

There’s very little doubt he plays favorites and does not equally apply his accountability and that he deploys lines erratically and in some head scratching ways.

We all see what we want, I guess. I have seen nothing to indicate that. I have seen Quinn players who earned his trust.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

So other than the usual diatribes about Howden & Stall, there really is nothing?

They clearly do not trust the rookies to be protecting leads. Lindgren is only now starting to earn some trust. Justifiably, they also do not want DeAngelo out there. So you are down to Sjkei vs. Staal. To be honest, not sure if the former was just out on the ice or not. That what they felt like doing. You can disagree, but that has nothing to do with favoritism.

We all see what we want, I guess. I have seen nothing to indicate that. I have seen Quinn players who earned his trust.

Remember back in the day when there was a call for accountability on this board?

 

[True Blue]

Remember back in the day when there was a call for accountability on this board?

My selective accountability is better than your selective accountability.

 

[True Blue]

I don’t see him getting fired until mid season next year at the earliest

I think that for him to get fired, the wheels will need to completely come of the bus next year. Short of that, I doubt he is going anywhere.

 

[McRanger]

Usually with a coach, even if he's a guy you hate or a guy universally accepted as a poor coach, you can see what his strengths are.

Even if you hated Torts there was no denying how hard the team forechecked and backchecked or how stingy his teams were in the D zone.

Even if you hated AV there was no denying how much better the team was in transitioning the puck.

Quinn? His system is a slopfest, his bench management is iffy (which is probably generous being that we must be breaking some sort of record with bench minors) , game preparation is impossible to read and overall team effort seems to oscillate between good and horrible. Which leaves accountability, something that can be described as a strength only if you define accountability as benching a player at inopportune times for small mistakes instead of benching players for continuous poor play.

So yeah I just don't really see anything that stands out with Quinn. At all.

 

[RGY]

Next man after Quinn? Maybe not this year but next?

 

[NYR]

LAVIOLETTE!!!!

 

[chosen]

So many fans think they would be better at coaching than coaches.

So many fans think that fired coaches are great unless their team fired them.

 

[JHS]

Howden going to get benched for a single minor penalty in a game where he has a goal and assist? Staal gonna sit an entire period for one penalty? McKegg and Staal are getting ice time while trailing a goal with less than 2 minutes remaining. That’s a problem with distribution. It’s not just about the total minutes played. The situational awareness is awful. He starts a terrible line in the offensive zone, after a long tv timeout or in the dying minutes of a game we’re trailing in frequently. There’s very little doubt he plays favorites and does not equally apply his accountability and that he deploys lines erratically and in some head scratching ways.

I’ve made that same point about him starting the 4th line in the offensive zone after TV timeouts too. It’s beyond beyond head scratching— it’s just bad coaching.

 

[JHS]

Next man after Quinn? Maybe not this year but next?

Personally I never really like Laviolette because he’s really even more of a hard nose guy than Torts and has had a very mixed career but he has a proven track record in the NHL. He certainly brings instant credibility to the club and will have a respected voice in the locker room but I don’t know what it is but I’ve just never gotten a great vibe from him.

 

[duhmetreE]

I'd offer him BAG(s) of money. Come as an assistant.... for now

 

[nyr2k2]

So many fans think they would be better at coaching than coaches.

So many fans think that fired coaches are great unless their team fired them.

I sometimes think I am smarter than GMs. Maybe not smarter, but less stupid? LOL. I mean it's not totally crazy (maybe it is for me personally), as we keep seeing guys in pro sports come into management positions with no actual background in sports management.

But yeah, coaches, IDK. I mean I had coaching at the high school level in the US, when hockey in the state of Maryland was not big. I don't like a lot of the lineup decisions coaches make, but if you put me in charge, I wouldn't even know how to run a practice. My ankle got all busted up from running up an escalator years ago, it still wobbles when I'm on skates. Tactically I will question a coach, but I know I could never be one.

 

[Peltz]

Usually with a coach, even if he's a guy you hate or a guy universally accepted as a poor coach, you can see what his strengths are.

Even if you hated Torts there was no denying how hard the team forechecked and backchecked or how stingy his teams were in the D zone.

Even if you hated AV there was no denying how much better the team was in transitioning the puck.

Quinn? His system is a slopfest, his bench management is iffy (which is probably generous being that we must be breaking some sort of record with bench minors) , game preparation is impossible to read and overall team effort seems to oscillate between good and horrible. Which leaves accountability, something that can be described as a strength only if you define accountability as benching a player at inopportune times for small mistakes instead of benching players for continuous poor play.

So yeah I just don't really see anything that stands out with Quinn. At all.

To me, cross ice passing plays in the offensive zone seem better to me under Quinn. I have no empiracle data to back this up though, and it's more of a gut feeling. But yea, it's not a complete game yet with how bad the team defends and clears pucks from their own zone.