Player Discussion David Quinn: Part II

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Is this norm?

Have many aliases do you have buddy?

Anyway, yes I will try from now on to simply say, ‘I don’t agree’ instead of ‘you don’t know what your talking about’.


And if I forget to do, anyone feel free to remind me to edit my post.

There you go, my HFboards New Years resolution.
Don’t try and help people by telling them when they are wrong, just say you disagree.


(The last part was a joke :))

Not sure I’m following the first part of your reply about aliases. If your question about is this normal to show up refs the answer is 98% no and even at the younger levels I work coaches( and the entire sport honestly) has tamed a lot!
 
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Not sure I’m following the first part of your reply about aliases. If your question about is this normal to show up refs the answer is 98% no and even at the younger levels I work coaches( and the entire sport honestly) has tamed a lot!
Sly move bonehead. I like that.

And in case you aren’t norm, norm is the name of a poster on one of the best rangers blogs on the webs. RR2.0.

DISCLAIMER: let me clarify. Norm is one of the worst posters on one of the best blogs. LOL. Cheers norm ;)

You and norm would enjoy talking to each other I think
 
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Sly move bonehead. I like that.

And in case you aren’t norm, norm is the name of a poster on one of the best rangers blogs on the webs. RR2.0.

DISCLAIMER: let me clarify. Norm is one of the worst posters on one of the best blogs. LOL. Cheers norm ;)

You and norm would enjoy talking to each other I think


Ahhhh I see- I only post here. It’s enough for me.

Also, bonehead is the best you got? Come on now...
 
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Ok cool- I’ll check it out.

Nooorrrmmm! :laugh:

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If this is not allowed feel free to take down

FU ref for making me have to act like this
You F’ing happy I’m yelling. Gonna blow an artery


This is immature and Mickey Mouse-ish and unbefitting of an original six franchise. Getting angry at the refs and calling something effing BS is one thing. Just yelling F you, you effing jerk off is childish. It’s amusing, but embarrassing and there is zero doubt in my mind he won’t get calls going his way acting like this.
 
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This is immature and Mickey Mouse-ish and unbefitting of an original six franchise. Getting angry at the refs and calling something effing BS is one thing. Just yelling F you, you effing jerk off is childish. It’s amusing, but embarrassing and there is zero doubt in my mind he won’t get calls going his way acting like this.

I kinda agree with you.

But F it Quinn wouldn’t have been acting anyway like that if the refs were calling a fair game.

And for that reason, I loved it. Bc the refs do deserve it and more.

But I totally get what your saying.

My definition of what it means to be an orginal 6 franchise has nothing to do with what your relating it to though.

It’s an original 6 team, ok, doesn’t mean we have to carry ourselves to society’s accepted norms of what constitutes class.

Much rather it mean we are an organization that has a rich history, honors that history and the players who came before, a team that carries itself with a certain moral integrity and demands/expects the same, and plays the game in the true spirit of the game.


Just be an organization that does things the right way. We’re humans, the players are, the coach is. We have emotions. It’s an emotional game.

Emotional outbursts in professional sports are gonna happen. That’s part of what makes sports so great. The raw emotion.

Let the refs and league do their job and quit expecting coaches to swallow the truth. I know the leagues feels it makes everyone rich, so they need to deal with it, but these coaches put in so much time every freaking day.

To have to swallow it when these green young company boys who are protected and encouraged by the league to
Manage games, who put you in 4-0 holes 3 mins into a game in Tampa, or what happened in Edmonton the other night.

It’s ridiculous. I get some people really want to harp on Quinn’s reaction.

How about the cause and how rampant it is Every freaking game across the entire freaking league

Spade of spades
 
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I kinda agree with you.

But F it Quinn wouldn’t have been acting anyway like that if the refs were calling a fair game.

And for that reason, I loved it. Bc the refs do deserve it and more.

But I totally get what your saying.

My definition of what it means to be an orginal 6 franchise has nothing to do with what your relating it to though.

It’s an original 6 team, ok, doesn’t mean we have to carry ourselves to society’s accepted norms of what constitutes class.

Much rather it mean we are an organization that has a rich history, honors that history and the players who came before, a team that carries itself with a certain moral integrity and demands/expects the same, and plays the game in the true spirit of the game.


But it makes me wonder what other immature outbursts and behaviors he’s had an in the past and if the refs don’t like him because he behaves like an angry teenager. I’m ALL for letting the refs have it and I loved Torts calling them out, but it’s the simplicity of just throwing profane insults rather than something like “that’s BS and you know it, you’re costing us the effing game, gets your head out of your ass” that makes it seem so Mickey Mouse-ish. Just yelling F YOU! is so petulant and just makes him look weak and immature, IMO and won’t do the team any favors.
 
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So does anyone actually want to talk about him benching Kakko I’m the third after the rest of the game he had? Yea he made a mistake, but what does that teach him? And would Quinn have done the same if it was one of his golden pony boys ? Is no one else legitimately concerned with how he rewards some players and punishes others ? If a similar situation happens like what happened to Lias, it’s extremely alarming.
 
So does anyone actually want to talk about him benching Kakko I’m the third after the rest of the game he had? Yea he made a mistake, but what does that teach him? And would Quinn have done the same if it was one of his golden pony boys ? Is no one else legitimately concerned with how he rewards some players and punishes others ? If a similar situation happens like what happened to Lias, it’s extremely alarming.

I think most people are legitimately concerned with his "tough love meritocracy", you aren't alone there at all.

I have been trying to reserve judgment until his second full season ends, but it is getting harder and harder to think he is the right guy for the job.
 
Do you really want to make the playoffs only to get bounced in the first 4 games?

This team couldn't currently be in a worse possible position.

They're in the dreaded middle and are going to end up with a real ****tty pick in the draft and judging by the lack of movement, JG is still tanking it.

Another failed experiment..

JD needs to step in and clean house..
What's the big deal if we get a mid 1st? That player won't be contributing for a while anyway. Next season the young guys should be better and the season after that we have dead weight off the books and another year of growth and development. Who knows what moves are made...IDK why you're acting like the sky is falling. The Rangers are the youngest team and the future is bright.
 
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I think most people are legitimately concerned with his "tough love meritocracy", you aren't alone there at all.

I have been trying to reserve judgment until his second full season ends, but it is getting harder and harder to think he is the right guy for the job.

It's not a meritocracy if only some players' mistakes get punished while others' get overlooked.
 
So does anyone actually want to talk about him benching Kakko I’m the third after the rest of the game he had? Yea he made a mistake, but what does that teach him? And would Quinn have done the same if it was one of his golden pony boys ? Is no one else legitimately concerned with how he rewards some players and punishes others ? If a similar situation happens like what happened to Lias, it’s extremely alarming.

He took a stupid penalty. You know what he'll learn? Don't take stupid penalties.

I have my complaints about Quinn, but I haven't gotten the sense he plays favorites. And even if he did, veterans will probably get more of a benefit of a doubt because they've come up and gone through the same process.

I swear, way too many people absolutely falling in love with younger players and then throwing a hissy fit at.....the natural process of evolving into an NHL player.
 
I have to ask - when people like you make the same lazy arguments about every single coach the Rangers have, is there ever a point in time where you realize it might not always be the coach?

Woah hold your horses there pal. I gave DQ a B rating. He's been OK. I just took issue with the phrase "meritocracy." Do you know what that word means? Look it up in a dictionary before you go around calling others lazy. I have no idea why you're lashing out at me for an innocuous post.

"People like you?" You have no idea what my thoughts are on any other Rangers coaches. Take a walk around the block, get some fresh air.
 
But it makes me wonder what other immature outbursts and behaviors he’s had an in the past and if the refs don’t like him because he behaves like an angry teenager. I’m ALL for letting the refs have it and I loved Torts calling them out, but it’s the simplicity of just throwing profane insults rather than something like “that’s BS and you know it, you’re costing us the effing game, gets your head out of your ass” that makes it seem so Mickey Mouse-ish. Just yelling F YOU! is so petulant and just makes him look weak and immature, IMO and won’t do the team any favors.

yup this is and was my point a few pages ago. At least if you are going to give it to the refs be creative and maybe even original! I’ve had coaches lose their mind on me during games and a few times I’ll actually give them a compliment if they come up with something new. In this incident with Quinn he just looks angry and frustrated. Not exactly two productive emotions nor are they comforting.
 
What's the big deal if we get a mid 1st? That player won't be contributing for a while anyway. Next season the young guys should be better and the season after that we have dead weight off the books and another year of growth and development. Who knows what moves are made...IDK why you're acting like the sky is falling. The Rangers are the youngest team and the future is bright.

No.. The sky certainly isn't falling but when the most simplistic solutions aren't implemented in order to correct things, you don't see a cause for concern?

You have a GM that can't even piece together a bottom 6 for as long as he's been here along with a coach who don't know his ass from his elbow.
He allows this garbage system to continue.
It's not in the best interest of the team, players or fans..Yet things are status quo.

At what point do you say..OK, let's stop using excuses and apply some common sense?

You're talking as if that just because you shred a couple of older players and some salary like there's automatic fill-ins.
I just don't see it working out with JG running the show..

What am I missing here?
 
He took a stupid penalty. You know what he'll learn? Don't take stupid penalties.

I have my complaints about Quinn, but I haven't gotten the sense he plays favorites. And even if he did, veterans will probably get more of a benefit of a doubt because they've come up and gone through the same process.

I swear, way too many people absolutely falling in love with younger players and then throwing a hissy fit at.....the natural process of evolving into an NHL player.

What are you teaching a player when you, yourself takes an even more stupid penalty?
 
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yup this is and was my point a few pages ago. At least if you are going to give it to the refs be creative and maybe even original! I’ve had coaches lose their mind on me during games and a few times I’ll actually give them a compliment if they come up with something new. In this incident with Quinn he just looks angry and frustrated. Not exactly two productive emotions nor are they comforting.

He's angry and unhinged, yet it's all the players fault for him running them around in circles.
Fkn guy needs to get a clue..
 
I have to ask - when people like you make the same lazy arguments about every single coach the Rangers have, is there ever a point in time where you realize it might not always be the coach?
Dude it’s not a lazy argument. The fact of the matter is that Kakko was finally having a good night and playing with confidence after struggling for a couple of games. In certain situations, yes, you need to teach players lessons. Choosing when to give them those lessons and when to let up on the gas is part of being a good coach. So now you have a situation where Kakko gets two points, and gets his confidence shit on. And you say let’s teach him a lesson for taking a stupid penalty when Quinn did stupid shit the other night too by sayin what he did. Pot calling the kettle black? Maybe someone should bench Quinn to “teach him the right way.” And this guy also has the nerve to come out and say McKegg had a good night lmao. It’s one of his boys. He could shit on the ice and it wouldn’t be an issue. The patience is starting to wear thin on this guy.
 
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Dude it’s not a lazy argument. The fact of the matter is that Kakko was finally having a good night and playing with confidence after struggling for a couple of games. In certain situations, yes, you need to teach players lessons. Choosing when to give them those lessons and when to let up on the gas is part of being a good coach. So now you have a situation where Kakko gets two points, and gets his confidence **** on. And you say let’s teach him a lesson for taking a stupid penalty when Quinn did stupid **** the other night too by sayin what he did. Pot calling the kettle black? Maybe someone should bench Quinn to “teach him the right way.” And this guy also has the nerve to come out and say McKegg had a good night lmao. It’s one of his boys. He could **** on the ice and it wouldn’t be an issue. The patience is starting to wear thin on this guy.

DQ is out of his mind for benching Kakko in that situation.
No other way around it.
How could you possibly justify that nonsense?
 
I gotta be honest I'm kinda surprised by the polling, I try to give these dudes benefit of the doubt but I haven't seen anything to warrant more than a D, the on ice results certainly don't warrant it. I think we're probably higher in the standings with some better coaching. And the player usage is what really gets me. Last year I loved to see Pionk get the minutes and just go through the growing pains but I had a real problem with ADA at first, Buch getting limited mins, and this one goes a little more unnoticed because the Strome move turned out PHENOMENAL but I hated how he used Spooner. Top 6 skills that came in on a good building season in Boston at the deadline with AV, got top 6 minutes and didn't just look like a passenger but really made a hell of a lot of good plays. Didn't give the dude one single opportunity with an open top 6 spot while giving Vesey and Names 16 mins a game. Howden 15 mins a game. It just seems like your not maximizing your guys strengths. In that spot Spooner was not an effective bottom 6 player and those dudes were not effective top 6 guys so it just made no sense. Clearly he could not fit a 4th line role in Edmonton or Vancouver either. This year at times I think it's been a bit better but still unsatisfying. I liked to see Howden getting some minutes but once it became apparent that he wasn't very effective as that 3C it was beyond frustrating to not see Andersson get an opportunity. In terms of minutes I've liked how the Dmen have been used. We saw Staal finally scratched. The top guys getting the top minutes, but that should go without saying. All in all I gotta say I've disliked more than I've liked so far
 
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