Confirmed with Link: David Quinn Dismissed

[LORDE]

Then I can respond to tbis...Dallas fired redhead nfl coach and he was hired in 2 seconds by giants..I thought he was no good ?? Why r isles much better...going in wrong direction...they went to conf finals last year....why r they not better....coach??

Fire bad!

Sorry... just the way I read it.

I think coaching does play a part. Isles or anyone else. I don't feel Quinn helped bring out the best in Kakko, Lafreniere and even Miller. I feel he underutilized Kravtsov (once here) and should've used the PP to give these HIGHLY skilled young kids some room to do their thing, against 1 less defender.

Instead he rolled out PP1 w Strome on RW for 1:49 every time.

Did it get us into the playoffs? NOPE. Did it save his own job? NOPE

Well here we are... yes hindsight is 20/20 but again, he was a "developmental coach" who did almost no developing IMO

 

[Joe Ranger Fan 1960]

The Rangers need a bench coach that everyone respects. How many practices did they even get in this season? The new coach need not be an analytical genius or a systems expert. He needs to be a respected leader surrounded by great technical assistants like Allaire. Rather than being "safe" and taking Gallant, or even Babcock, I'd like to see Messier behind the bench. It's not rocket science, it's hockey. Mess knows hockey and everyone who ever put on a sweater knows it.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If people are talking about a coach that "can forge an identity" for a team, who's proven the ability to do that more than Gallant has?

Torts?

Like him or not, his teams buy in to what he wants until they get tired of him.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Yes, and that's because they're all good players. Martin, in particular, is outstanding when it comes to anything that doesn't have to do with scoring. If he were good enough at scoring to have a bigger role, he'd be a Selke guy.

But if you drop those guys into Quinn's system, what would they do? We don't cycle that much, we're not tight defensively, and he would have Martin and Clutterbuck going out of position to hit more.

I'm not saying we need Barry Trotz, but you need some kind of structure or grit is just fighting. We were good at fighting this year.

Agree. Don't need Trotz just someone competent enough to use what he already has.

 

[CLW]

Torts?

Like him or not, his teams buy in to what he wants until they get tired of him.

Vegas got REALLY tired of Gallant's act too. Can the team just find a sane person please who also knows his stuff?

 

[Harbour Dog]

Vegas got REALLY tired of Gallant's act too. Can the team just find a sane person please who also knows his stuff?

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[Levitate]

All of them spoke about tremendous challenges during the season, even bizarre events in the locker room the fans and media know nothing about.

I really want to know what this was about

Gallant has been smart about lying low after the bad blood split with Vegas. Getting unceremoniously booted the way he was points at some personality issues.

I'd have to go back and look at all this again but my feeling is that since Vegas overachieved their first year then took a bit of a step back after that, Vegas management just got antsy with him. They came so close and wanted/want to keep pushing the envelop

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Just woke up
Lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Edit: firing Martin was dumb glad the #1 idiot is gone tho

 

[leetch99]

No thank you....i have no idea how he still has a job there...he blew their prime years

LOL...that really is a million dollar question....I wondered that every season after they fell short or moved guys off the roster as to when his number would hit the floor .

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Vegas got REALLY tired of Gallant's act too. Can the team just find a sane person please who also knows his stuff?

I don't know what happened in Vegas tbh. That situation has always been a little weird to me.

Someone mentioned that Gallant got fired at both of his last two spots because he failed to embrace analytics. I don't think thats true (and if he did, what ever he is using has worked because his teams have always killed it analytically) but I know he butted heads with the management in Florida, which isn't surprising considering that they were a certified dumpsterf*** during his time there.

What do I do know is this, his teams play exactly how most of us want the Rangers to play. He did a good job with the young players in Florida too. Of the available coaches, he's easily at the top of my wish list.

 

[Synergy27]

Vegas got REALLY tired of Gallant's act too. Can the team just find a sane person please who also knows his stuff?

What does this mean? I keep hearing this but I don’t know what it means.

 

[will1066]

Fire bad!

Sorry... just the way I read it.

I think coaching does play a part. Isles or anyone else. I don't feel Quinn helped bring out the best in Kakko, Lafreniere and even Miller. I feel he underutilized Kravtsov (once here) and should've used the PP to give these HIGHLY skilled young kids some room to do their thing, against 1 less defender.

Instead he rolled out PP1 w Strome on RW for 1:49 every time.

Did it get us into the playoffs? NOPE. Did it save his own job? NOPE

Well here we are... yes hindsight is 20/20 but again, he was a "developmental coach" who did almost no developing IMO

Quinn's thumbprint seems to be an overprotective parent who kept his kids on the straight and narrow path, spoonfeeding them hockey's version of life's lessons. One could say that he stifled their growth. One could also say, because of what he did, the kids are developing slowly but CORRECTLY. Player development isn't an exact science, and there is no formal definition next to "developmental coach." If it were an exact, formulaic science, we'd have 31 great and greater teams and no bad ones.

 

[Machinehead]

Quinn's thumbprint seems to be an overprotective parent who kept his kids on the straight and narrow path, spoonfeeding them hockey's version of life's lessons. One could say that he stifled their growth. One could also say, because of what he did, the kids are developing slowly but CORRECTLY. Player development isn't an exact science, and there is no formal definition next to "developmental coach." If it were an exact, formulaic science, we'd have 31 great and greater teams and no bad ones.

I saw Quinn more as the dad from the Tenacious D video "Kickapoo" where the dad says to the kid "your brother's so much better than you, Jesus loves him more," with the brother being Panarin/Zibanejad/Blackwell and the kid being Kakko/Lafreniere.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

 

[chosen]

Farewell to the worst coach this team has ever had ... until the next one.

EDIT: Before I get quoted again that someone else was a worse coach, I am not saying that Quinn was actually the worst. I am saying that whoever is put in this position will be called an idiot and the worst coach we've ever had.

That's like saying it will snow somewhere in Canada, in January.

 

[chosen]

Whomever the new coach is, he better hope the Rangers aren't losing after the first period of the first game.

 

[TominNC]

The Rangers need a bench coach that everyone respects. How many practices did they even get in this season? The new coach need not be an analytical genius or a systems expert. He needs to be a respected leader surrounded by great technical assistants like Allaire. Rather than being "safe" and taking Gallant, or even Babcock, I'd like to see Messier behind the bench. It's not rocket science, it's hockey. Mess knows hockey and everyone who ever put on a sweater knows it.

Hell no. Rah rah, elbow them in the face won't do it. Mess is a legend for what he did 27 years ago. This is no time for nostalgia.

Just because you know how to play hockey doesn't mean you can coach it. Many have proven that before. Coaching is a separate skill.

 

[Vitto79]

Just go for Gallant

 

[will1066]

Can the thread title be updated to NYR Fire David Quinn, for both consistency and finality? Dismissed is such a soft word. Thread titles need to get tougher too.

 

[chosen]

Just woke up
Lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Edit: firing Martin was dumb glad the #1 idiot is gone tho

We'll know who the next coach is when you change your name.

 

[chosen]

Hell no. Rah rah, elbow them in the face won't do it. Mess is a legend for what he did 27 years ago. This is no time for nostalgia.

Just because you know how to play hockey doesn't mean you can coach it. Many have proven that before. Coaching is a separate skill.

If you're going to get Messier, why not another round of Espo?

 

[FireGerardGallant]

We'll know who the next coach is when you change your name.

Have to wait a year to change jt sadly so im in a lame duck situation rn. Gonna be hard to top this guy tho

 

[JHS]

I just hope they take their time hiring a new coach. There is 0 reason to rush this. Let the season play out, see whose available and then make a move. The Rangers are a VERY attractive spot to coach( very talented roster, great city, great opportunity to take a team and move it forward) so their should not be a need to compete with some of the other teams looking for coaches.

They can’t make the same mistake they did when they missed out on Barry Trotz by rushing the decision before the end of the season.

 

[chosen]

I'm casting a weak vote for Gallant because in case things don't work out, I'm curious to see what @Machinehead posts.

 

[will1066]

Have to wait a year to change jt sadly so im in a lame duck situation rn. Gonna be hard to top this guy tho

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