Player Discussion David Pastrnak XIII -Report, Extension to be announced Today!

[Gee Wally]

(iv) An SPC with a term of greater than seven (7) years, provided, however, that a Club may sign a Player to an SPC with a term of up to eight (8) years if that Player was on such Club’s Reserve List as of and since the most recent Trade Deadline. With respect to potential Unrestricted Free Agents only, the ability to re-sign a Player to an SPC of eight (8) years expires when the Player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent. With respect to a Player who becomes a Group 2 Restricted Free Agent, a Club may sign such Player to an SPC with a term of up to eight (8) years provided such Player was on such Club’s Reserve List and/or Restricted Free Agent List as of and since the most recent Trade Deadline.



The Memo of Understanding, signed in 2020, that extended the current CBA, amended this rule in one particular way:

CBA §50.8(b)(iv) shall be amended to provide that when a Club acquires a Player who is signed through the subsequent Trade Deadline, it can immediately sign him to an 8-year SPC without waiting until the subsequent Trade Deadline if otherwise permitted to do so under Section 50.5(f)

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I believe the rule I posted only applies to UFAs. I'm assuming it's different from RFAs considering you still own their rights at that point?

Idk

Would probably make sense. I still thought you could trade rights to UFA for the 8th year but it’s too late on a Sunday after a nonstop hockey weekend for me to possibly think of an example.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Because Marchand wasn’t competing for the Rocket and Hart trophy when he signed that contract like Pasta is and has been for years.

There’s no one on this team that is a comparable. There hasn’t been one on this team in a long time either.

Pastrnak has not been competing for years for the Hart. He has never been a finalist and had one 5th place finish since 2019. Even this year where you certainly can make the argument he is, he has considerable competition from a teammate for Hart consideration.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

(iv) An SPC with a term of greater than seven (7) years, provided, however, that a Club may sign a Player to an SPC with a term of up to eight (8) years if that Player was on such Club’s Reserve List as of and since the most recent Trade Deadline. With respect to potential Unrestricted Free Agents only, the ability to re-sign a Player to an SPC of eight (8) years expires when the Player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent. With respect to a Player who becomes a Group 2 Restricted Free Agent, a Club may sign such Player to an SPC with a term of up to eight (8) years provided such Player was on such Club’s Reserve List and/or Restricted Free Agent List as of and since the most recent Trade Deadline.

So players can be traded for the 8th year after the season but before the new league year starts I believe. Remember how that was a thing with Krug?

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

So players can be traded for the 8th year after the season but before the new league year starts I believe. Remember how that was a thing with Krug?

Capfriendly says it was a sign and trade.

Edit: also



So the 8 year/ needing to be on roster previous trade deadline thing seems to apply to RFAs as well. Otherwise why would Calgary have signed him first.

 

[Gee Wally]

So players can be traded for the 8th year after the season but before the new league year starts I believe. Remember how that was a thing with Krug?

thats my take.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Capfriendly says it was a sign and trade.

Edit: also

Ah right forgot about that. Thanks for the research there.

 

[danpantz]

Pastrnak has not been competing for years for the Hart. He has never been a finalist and had one 5th place finish since 2019. Even this year where you certainly can make the argument he is, he has considerable competition from a teammate for Hart consideration.

Only a top 5 hart finish and a Rocket at 23 and going for it again this year. How many of those seasons did Marchand have before he signed that contract?

Over a ppg, pretty much a lock for 40 goals a season, over a ppg in the playoffs. Still only 26 years old and playing his best hockey right now. He’s a superstar.

Comparing him to Marchand when Marchand signed his deal is foolish.

 

[Number8]

God, I hope we aren't going to start bashing Pasta.

I hope not either. Bottom line is he is a great player and been nothing but fresh air for this team. We’ve been lucky. Anyone bashing on him in a vacuum - we know squat about the dealings — should be barred from wearing his jersey.

 

[TD Charlie]

This is why we can’t have nice things.

 

[McGarnagle]

 

[KrejciMVP]

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is their any other sport where an athlete has to worry if he offends teammates going onto free agency in getting market value. Personally think Pastrnak's negotiations are none of Marchands business

 

[bruinmann77]

thats quite a message to send Krejci and Bergeron who came back for a run.

Well I agree about this last run but they can’t let him walk away without nothing. But I guess we can wait till they raise a cup

 

[Dr Quincy]

I could be totally “out to lunch”, but, I feel like the B’s have a deal in place for Pasta but both sides have agreed to wait until after the trade deadline to make it official. Perhaps they are considering what wiggle room they can create with moving out some current roster pieces (Smith, Reilly, etc.), adding some depth pieces and then finalizing the Pasta deal once everything else lands in place. Might just be wishful thinking too.

No offense, but I think that's the least likely scenario. It makes no sense for either side.

What if the deal is 11.5m and Pasta gets a devastating concussion or knee injury that's going to knock him out of the playoffs and 1/2 of the following year. Do the B's still honor that contract? What if Pasta goes on even more of a tear and is at 70 goals by the deadline and the deal with the B's was for 10m. Does he change his mind or sign a ridiculously below market deal because they had an agreement before.

If you have an agreement you sign the contract. It makes no sense to wait as this "deal" could be walked away from by either side.

 

[NeelyDan]

I honestly find the agent industry a bit sketch

 

[Gee Wally]

No offense, but I think that's the least likely scenario. It makes no sense for either side.

What if the deal is 11.5m and Pasta gets a devastating concussion or knee injury that's going to knock him out of the playoffs and 1/2 of the following year. Do the B's still honor that contract? What if Pasta goes on even more of a tear and is at 70 goals by the deadline and the deal with the B's was for 10m. Does he change his mind or sign a ridiculously below market deal because they had an agreement before.

If you have an agreement you sign the contract. It makes no sense to wait as this "deal" could be walked away from by either side.

absolutely , it makes zero sense at all.

 

[bruinmann77]

absolutely , it makes zero sense at all.

You can’t project the future

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

You can’t project the future

The forum is called "Hockey's Future".

That's what this place is for

 

[IveGotToBeMe]

No offense, but I think that's the least likely scenario. It makes no sense for either side.

What if the deal is 11.5m and Pasta gets a devastating concussion or knee injury that's going to knock him out of the playoffs and 1/2 of the following year. Do the B's still honor that contract? What if Pasta goes on even more of a tear and is at 70 goals by the deadline and the deal with the B's was for 10m. Does he change his mind or sign a ridiculously below market deal because they had an agreement before.

If you have an agreement you sign the contract. It makes no sense to wait as this "deal" could be walked away from by either side.

Honestly just trying to have some optimism here. All the negative commentary about why it hasn't gotten done yet is just frustrating. Everyone is speculating anyway since none of us sit in the front office...although there are some here who act like they do...

 

[Aussie Bruin]

It saves them from themselves.

Larkin and Horvat won't make it to UFA there is nothing good that money can be spent on if Pasternak walks.

If Krejci and Bergeron leave his center is Zacha and the LW is Hall. I think hes cool with that. JDB-Coyle-Marchand is your second line. What better situation hockey-wise is there?

I'm pretty confident that Pasta re-signs, but you're telling me that Zacha and Coyle as the Bruins' top centers, with an inconsistent Hall and an aging Marchand, is a selling point in itself? Surely not. Sweeney's going to have to make the case for the likelihood of something better than that.

 

[UncleRico]

It saves them from themselves.

Larkin and Horvat won't make it to UFA there is nothing good that money can be spent on if Pasternak walks.

If Krejci and Bergeron leave his center is Zacha and the LW is Hall. I think hes cool with that. JDB-Coyle-Marchand is your second line. What better situation hockey-wise is there?

I never want to see Debrusk and Coyle on a line together again. That was one of the worst combos I’ve ever seen.

 

[Ivo]

I agree with the second part of your post.

McKinnon probably signed his last big payday contract, but Matthews and McDavid will be setting the new standard when the time comes. The thing is, these three are the top 3 centers in the league.

It's not to say Pastrnak doesn't deserve it, but I think it's tough to justify that percentage of the cap going to a winger, especially in the position the Bruins are in.


You're right, they should give Pastrnak $15m instead, Pastrnak is happy, and we will be happy too.

I'm going to head out in a bit, head to the car dealership near me, and purchase a car they hiked up close to 2x the price of the MSRP and buy it.

You understand scarcity value, right? You can choose from any number of cars that will do roughly the same job. Players like Pasta don’t grow on trees though. Having said that, I hope we don’t see an extravagant cap hit like some of the numbers flying around here. But sign him we must.

 

[LouJersey]

Honestly just trying to have some optimism here. All the negative commentary about why it hasn't gotten done yet is just frustrating. Everyone is speculating anyway since none of us sit in the front office...although there are some here who act like they do...

I wouldn’t overly stress. It seems that Pasta just truly got involved this weekend with the agent. If it doesn’t happen in a couple weeks then I think he will get some UFA offers and go from there

 

[Patdud]

Pasta is 26 years old, this is an opportunity of a lifetime for both him to maximize his career earning potential (considering he came from nothing id want as much as the Bruins are willing to do) and the Bruins have an opportunity to have a guy whose probably going to hit 600 for his career play his entire prime here.

If that makes Marchand pissed well take it out privately, and if he is willing to fissure the locker room over it then take the A away.

 

[DKH]

I’m sure if Pastrnak isn’t signed by deadline he’s coming back