Player Discussion David Pastrnak XIII -Report, Extension to be announced Today!

[BlackFrancis]

I think you need to take into account the cap is going to spike beginning next season, and JP Barry doesn't want to end up catatonic in his office in the middle of the night like Brad's agent, after Brad signed for $6m six months before finishing 5th in the league in scoring.

That new tv contract is going to pump some serious helium into league salaries, and that doesn't take into account any increases due to natural growth/inflation.

 

[PlayMakers]

do you think that logic applies to elite talent like Crosby Ovechkin and Stamkos? I dont think so, these teams lock up their stars as catalysts for their organization. The Bruins may not find a goal scorer like this for a long time. worth every penny

I don't think Pasta is in the same category as Crosby, Ovechkin or McDavid. Pasta is not the best player in the league, a claim those three could make at different times during their careers.

I do think it applied to Stamkos, and I remember Tampa playing hardball with him. They let him go to free agency and were willing to let him walk. They ended up getting him for $8.5 per. The same deal for Pasta (as a % of the cap) would be $9.7m. I think we'd all be ecstatic about that.

 

[DKH]

Pastrnak doesn’t sound to worried about a deal and just grinding away playing games

If he waits till after season he can focus on a deal

If it’s not here Sweeney should not trade his rights - let him take 7 years

If he signs tonight or by end of season I’m curious where Pasta/Barry took the Bruins where they didn’t go
If it’s 12 or North I hope Marchand weighs in and lets us know if they are still one for all, and all for one: or Pasta and the Pips

Pasta might be wise to wait even if here and just focus on a Cup

 

[Gee Wally]

Pastrnak doesn’t sound to worried about a deal and just grinding away playing games

If he waits till after season he can focus on a deal

If it’s not here Sweeney should not trade his rights - let him take 7 years

If he signs tonight or by end of season I’m curious where Pasta/Barry took the Bruins where they didn’t go
If it’s 12 or North I hope Marchand weighs in and lets us know if they are still one for all, and all for one: or Pasta and the Pips

Pasta might be wise to wait even if here and just focus on a Cup

my uneducated guess, but what I would be doing is front load as much as possible with a huge balloon payment target lock out year via signing bonuses. Total opposite of Horvart deal.

 

[TCB]

McAvoy? In my opinion, he absolutely did. Less than $10M/yr was a great number for him.

Hardly a discount when your the 4th highest paid defenseman in the NHL barely missing the top three and your among the top 20 highest paid players in the league when he signed the deal. It was market value and a fair deal money wise. Bonuses and NMC not so much.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I don't think Pasta is in the same category as Crosby, Ovechkin or McDavid. Pasta is not the best player in the league, a claim those three could make at different times during their careers.

I do think it applied to Stamkos, and I remember Tampa playing hardball with him. They let him go to free agency and were willing to let him walk. They ended up getting him for $8.5 per. The same deal for Pasta (as a % of the cap) would be $9.7m. I think we'd all be ecstatic about that.

not really concerned with Pastas percentage to the cap when players like Mike Reilly effect it way more. all this worry over a miniscule # for an elite player when much more is wasted elsewhere

 

[TCB]

my uneducated guess, but what I would be doing is front load as much as possible with a huge balloon payment target lock out year via signing bonuses. Total opposite of Horvart deal.

Yep. I think the amount is there and its the bonuses what is holding it up and that's on the Jacobs. Sweeney knows the amount imo, and now its up to the Jacobs to pay the man his bonus money to make it work. They got a great deal from chuckies camp by not having to pay the premium in bonuses or a NMC, but if they want to retain Pasta, they need to anti-up, plain and simple!

Will David Pastrnak follow Bergeron and others and sign a hometown discount?

As we've said time and time again, the Boston Bruins number one priority is to sign David Pastrnak to an extension, and hopefully a max one at that.

www.bruinsinsider.com

General manager Don Sweeney spoke on the subject:

‘'David's a young player in the prime of his career.''

I expect us to approach it the same, not unlike any of our other players, whether it's Charlie McAvoy or anybody else That's just what it requires. Especially with really, really good players. They have leverage.''

 

[bruinmann77]

At some point DS says this is our Best Deal and then Pasta team has to say yes or No and then the bruins has to decide if they are going to move him and what the best deal

 

[ON3M4N]

Pastrnak doesn’t sound to worried about a deal and just grinding away playing games

If he waits till after season he can focus on a deal

If it’s not here Sweeney should not trade his rights - let him take 7 years

If he signs tonight or by end of season I’m curious where Pasta/Barry took the Bruins where they didn’t go
If it’s 12 or North I hope Marchand weighs in and lets us know if they are still one for all, and all for one: or Pasta and the Pips

Pasta might be wise to wait even if here and just focus on a Cup

I thought a player had to be on the roster the previous season to get an 8yr deal.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I thought a player had to be on the roster the previous season to get an 8yr deal.

No you can sign and trade

 

[KrejciMVP]

At some point DS says this is our Best Deal and then Pasta team has to say yes or No and then the bruins has to decide if they are going to move him and what the best deal

thats quite a message to send Krejci and Bergeron who came back for a run.

 

[Alicat]

Personally, I saw Marchand's comments as sticking up for his teammate - not being critical of him. But perhaps I'm (somehow now) an optimist.

Yea I don't think he was taking a crack at Pasta. I think it was a general answer and then Friedman who likes to throw shit to the wall for clicks and here we are.

I really hope this doesn't become a locker room issue once they are back in Boston. God help us if we lost to the Caps b/c this will blow up by those rooting for the team to crumble.

 

[TCB]

I thought a player had to be on the roster the previous season to get an 8yr deal.

Look up Hampus Lindholm

 

[Gee Wally]

Yep. I think the amount is there and its the bonuses what is holding it up and that's on the Jacobs. Sweeney knows the amount imo, and now its up to the Jacobs to pay the man his bonus money to make it work. They got a great deal from chuckies camp by not having to pay the premium in bonuses or a NMC, but if they want to retain Pasta, they need to anti-up, plain and simple!

Will David Pastrnak follow Bergeron and others and sign a hometown discount?

As we've said time and time again, the Boston Bruins number one priority is to sign David Pastrnak to an extension, and hopefully a max one at that.

www.bruinsinsider.com

General manager Don Sweeney spoke on the subject:

‘'David's a young player in the prime of his career.''

I expect us to approach it the same, not unlike any of our other players, whether it's Charlie McAvoy or anybody else That's just what it requires. Especially with really, really good players. They have leverage.''

true, but dont forget Chuckie wasn’t eligible for NMC until 24-25 season so that wasnt really anything given up. CBA ruled that.

 

[ON3M4N]

No you can sign and trade

Sign and trade is different though. Your signing with the team you played for (you were on the roster) and then your traded. Trading rights I don't think gets the 8th year

Look up Hampus Lindholm

Lindholm signed his deal with Boston and was on their roster already when he did.

 

[TCB]

true, but dont forget Chuckie wasn’t eligible for NMC until 24-25 season so that wasnt really anything given up. CBA ruled that.

Wasn't aware of that ! You're the man Wally, no question about it !

Yes you Are

Sign and trade is different though. Your signing with the team you played for (you were on the roster) and then your traded. Trading rights I don't think gets the 8th year



Lindholm signed his deal with Boston and was on their roster already when he did.

sorry about that. I was somewhere else.

 

[UncleRico]

Bruins fans worried about how much money pasta will make and not leave enough money for other players.

I’m far more worried about the bruins paying foligno, smith and reilly almost $10m coming into the season.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Bruins fans worried about how much money pasta will make and not leave enough money for other players.

I’m far more worried about the bruins paying foligno, smith and reilly almost $10m coming into the season.

seriously, its not Pastas fault Sweeney wastes money

 

[danpantz]

Bruins fans worried about how much money pasta will make and not leave enough money for other players.

I’m far more worried about the bruins paying foligno, smith and reilly almost $10m coming into the season.

Exactly. Going to have to use young players on elc’s to fill out rosters rather than overpaying more vets like Smith, reilly, foligno, backes, belesky, moore, wagner etc.

Blessing in disguise

 

[IveGotToBeMe]

I could be totally “out to lunch”, but, I feel like the B’s have a deal in place for Pasta but both sides have agreed to wait until after the trade deadline to make it official. Perhaps they are considering what wiggle room they can create with moving out some current roster pieces (Smith, Reilly, etc.), adding some depth pieces and then finalizing the Pasta deal once everything else lands in place. Might just be wishful thinking too.

 

[TCB]

I could be totally “out to lunch”, but, I feel like the B’s have a deal in place for Pasta but both sides have agreed to wait until after the trade deadline to make it official. Perhaps they are considering what wiggle room they can create with moving out some current roster pieces (Smith, Reilly, etc.), adding some depth pieces and then finalizing the Pasta deal once everything else lands in place. Might just be wishful thinking too.

I think maybe

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

I thought a player had to be on the roster the previous season to get an 8yr deal.

*Player has to be on the signing teams roster as of the most recent trade deadline to sign the 8 year deal.

8/80. If I were him I’d settle at nothing less than 8/92

To me going under the assumption that any deal signed is 8 years:

If the aav starts with 10 it's a team friendly discount

If the aav starts with 11 it's probably close to fair market value

If the aav starts with 12 it was pay me or I'm testing UFA (where he probably would get that aav over 7 years)

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

*Player has to be on the signing teams roster as of the most recent trade deadline to sign the 8 year deal.



To me going under the assumption that any deal signed is 8 years:

If the aav starts with 10 it's a team friendly discount

If the aav starts with 11 it's probably close to fair market value

If the aav starts with 12 it was pay me or I'm testing UFA (where he probably would get that aav over 7 years)

Curious because Matthew Tkachuk signed an 8 year deal after being traded this summer. Is that just because he was RFA?

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Paying Coyle, Smith, Forbort, Foligno a combined $15m a year prevents that. Not paying Pasta.

You know, the garbage contracts Sweeney gave with the extra space Pasta gave them taking his current major discount deal?

Smith and Foligno contracts end this year and have no bearing on next years deals.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Curious because Matthew Tkachuk signed an 8 year deal after being traded this summer. Is that just because he was RFA?

I believe the rule I posted only applies to UFAs. I'm assuming it's different from RFAs considering you still own their rights at that point? (Assuming they were qualified)

Idk