Player Discussion David Pastrnak XIII -Report, Extension to be announced Today!

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Let's not play down Pastrnak as "a winger". He's legitimately in the conversation of being the best goal scorer in the NHL. You quite literally won't be able to find a replacement for him because there's like 3 or 4 player in the league who can do what he does and nobody is dumb enough to give them away. That's why you pay him and then try not to overpay your bottom-6.
I wish it was as easy as giving Pastrnak an 8x11 or 8x12 contract, he is better than Panarin, and getting it done. I posted tweets from media that said it's pretty much done, we've read media reports that a deal is close to done, and now we are reading reports that JP Barry is trying to squeeze the Bruins.

The Bruins wanted to get something done last July. There's little less than a month away from the trade deadline, if the Bruins want to make any additions to the roster that go past this season, they still don't have an idea where they will be at cap-wise. The cap situation is still in flux for next season.

If you dish out for Pastrnak, how do they fit Bergeron and/or Krejci next season if both want to be back? If both retire, who is going to replace them? Who is Pastrnak going to be playing with and will the Bruins be able to get the best out of Pastrnak with what they have or who they attain? Is Pastrnak okay with that? How will other players feel if the Bruins don't dish out for them like they might for Pastrnak?

I can only imagine what goes into contract negotiations, the player, position, comparable contracts, age, career trajectory, salary cap, cap hit, bonuses, contract structuring, and probably a million other things.

The Bruins are 100% going for a cup this season, but there are still a lot of question marks surrounding this team's future. We could see Pastrnak sign in the next few days or weeks (hopefully), or we could end up seeing a Bruins team without Bergeron, Krejci, and Pastrnak next season. What we do know is that Pastrnak's next contract is going to set a new precedent league-wide. If the Bruins want Pastrnak and Pastrnak wants to stay, there's no reason for this to carry on as much as it has. The Scott Boras of the NHL is putting the Bruins in a weird situation.
 
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This is on Twitter - and I find it detestable but you are Pasta

1. Kings have top 3 prospects pool
2. Great weather
3. You can play on same line as Fiala
4. They got the cap space
 

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This is sounding more and more like the Mookie Betts negotiations

The agent after being offered 8/200 indicates 10/300 a week or two go by the Sox meet the request and it’s supposedly $420

I figured it would be done in September, then once season started and everyone around October, - Black Friday? , Christmas, New Years/winter classic? Spy Balloon Day? - St Patrick Day?

Now we got
1. Pastrnak ‘hey no worry, just playing hockey, busy season and all’ (1 game in 2 weeks)

2. Friedman article

3. Marchand probably hearing from his agent something and making his anti Gordon Geeko ‘Greed isn’t Good’ when it comes to building a roster comment

He will probably sign this week but I’m running out of significant days on calendar before season over
 

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This is sounding more and more like the Mookie Betts negotiations

The agent after being offered 8/200 indicates 10/300 a week or two go by the Sox meet the request and it’s supposedly $420

I figured it would be done in September, then once season started and everyone around October, - Black Friday? , Christmas, New Years/winter classic? Spy Balloon Day? - St Patrick Day?

Now we got
1. Pastrnak ‘hey no worry, just playing hockey, busy season and all’ (1 game in 2 weeks)

2. Friedman article

3. Marchand probably hearing from his agent something and making his anti Gordon Geeko ‘Greed isn’t Good’ when it comes to building a roster comment

He will probably sign this week but I’m running out of significant days on calendar before season over
Where's Fluto these days ?
 

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I wish it was as easy as giving Pastrnak an 8x11 or 8x12 contract, he is better than Panarin, and getting it done. I posted tweets from media that said it's pretty much done, we've read media reports that a deal is close to done, and now we are reading reports that JP Barry is trying to squeeze the Bruins.

The Bruins wanted to get something done last July. There's little less than a month away from the trade deadline, if the Bruins want to make any additions to the roster that go past this season, they still don't have an idea where they will be at cap-wise. The cap situation is still in flux for next season.

If you dish out for Pastrnak, how do they fit Bergeron and/or Krejci next season if both want to be back? If both retire, who is going to replace them? Who is Pastrnak going to be playing with and will the Bruins be able to get the best out of Pastrnak with what they have or who they attain? Is Pastrnak okay with that? How will other players feel if the Bruins don't dish out for them like they might for Pastrnak?

I can only imagine what goes into contract negotiations, the player, position, comparable contracts, age, career trajectory, salary cap, cap hit, bonuses, contract structuring, and probably a million other things.

The Bruins are 100% going for a cup this season, but there are still a lot of question marks surrounding this team's future. We could see Pastrnak sign in the next few days or weeks (hopefully), or we could end up seeing a Bruins team without Bergeron, Krejci, and Pastrnak next season. What we do know is that Pastrnak's next contract is going to set a new precedent league-wide. If the Bruins want Pastrnak and Pastrnak wants to stay, there's no reason for this to carry on as much as it has. The Scott Boras of the NHL is putting the Bruins in a weird situation.
can't see Krejci and Bergeron returning if the Bruins run their best player out of town. why would they
 

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A lot of gnashing of teeth on here over Friedman’s opinion on the matter. Personally, I truly couldn’t give a flying shit what his opinion is on the matter. He’d rather go into an in-depth talk about the Leafs fourth line than anything positive about the Bruins.

Pasta will re-sign. It will be long-term. Most will agree it’s for a reasonable amount. That’s my opinion and it’s almost worthless, but I’ve been right about the Bruins more often than Elliot Friedman has.

Not worth the stress.
 

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Brad re signed for 8pct of his teams cap. Pasta taking up 14% will not go over well with him. Book it
Agred. He didnt say what he said just for the helluva it.
Brad's opinion is irrelevant if hes demanding a top NHL player sign way below market value.
Disagree if it causes divisiveness in the room. Plus he wasn’t demanding way below if you read his quote. But rather the culture is for everybody to give a little for the greater good.
 
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Brad re signed for 8pct of his teams cap. Pasta taking up 14% will not go over well with him. Book it
With Pasta likely to take up over 14 percent and McAvoy taking up 11.5 they may end up being the two highest paid players on any team percentage wise towards a teams cap hit. I think McDavid and Draisaitl currently sit at the top with 25.5 percent of any one teams total cap hit. Maybe MacKinnon and Makar will surpass them as well but its looking like those 6 players on these three teams will be taking up at least 25 % of their teams cap, heading into next year.

Edit: Toews/ Kane and Panarin/ Fox are also among the duos taking up 25% or more of a teams cap hit. Of course the Hawks duo will be off that list next year.
 
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Brad re signed for 8pct of his teams cap. Pasta taking up 14% will not go over well with him. Book it

Brad also hadn't exploded into the star he is today until after he signed his new deal. The 3 seasons prior he played around a 30g/53p pace. Pasta these past 2.5 seasons is around a 47g/95p pace.
 

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My issue with the Pasta negotiation is that it sounds like they're being pushed to the point where they are sacrificing their culture.

Chara, Marchand, Bergeron... they all sacrificed for the greater good, to win. If reports are to be believed, Pasta, who "doesn't play hockey for money," is pushing the Bruins to a place they don't want go. I assume that means it's a number that doesn't jive with the greater good.

Also, as the article states, the best weapon in a negotiation is the willingness to walk away. If the Bruins don't have a point at which they'll walk away, then they're going to get put over a barrel.

I know we all love Pasta, but signing him could mean breaking the culture that legends like Bergeron have built. That gives me pause.
 

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My issue with the Pasta negotiation is that it sounds like they're being pushed to the point where they are sacrificing their culture.

Chara, Marchand, Bergeron... they all sacrificed for the greater good, to win. If reports are to be believed, Pasta, who "doesn't play hockey for money," is pushing the Bruins to a place they don't want go. I assume that means it's a number that doesn't jive with the greater good.

Also, as the article states, the best weapon in a negotiation is the willingness to walk away. If the Bruins don't have a point at which they'll walk away, then they're going to get put over a barrel.

I know we all love Pasta, but signing him could mean breaking the culture that legends like Bergeron have built. That gives me pause.
one in a lifetime goal scorer. Those type of players you have to pay. The greater good is not watching Pasta chasing Gretzky somewhere else for the next decade, it would destroy the fans morale
 
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You guys are missing the point. Marchands deal was 8 pct of the cap. Pasta at 12 mil is over 14.

Add that in with Brads comments on what it takes to ice a top team and well.

You're missing the point.

Marchand signed when he was a PK machine who could pot you 30 goals. He wasn't Top 5 scorer, Hart candidate Marchand until after he signed his current deal.

You're comparing apples and oranges
 

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Would his deal stop them from signing there others player sorry can’t have that

yes it could.

so it could come down to do you have a great player making near max and the team in purgatory because its a one man band.

Or do you have a great player that leaves some onthe table to also be competitive.
 
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