Player Discussion David Pastrnak XIII -Report, Extension to be announced Today!

[TCB]

The latest report on the David Pastrnak situation is a welcomed one

The latest report on the negotiations between the Bruins and David Pastrnak sounds encouraging.

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“Well, I want to be careful with this one, but the word around the league is that the Bruins and Pastrnak have been making some progress,” Friedman said during a Saturday night ’32 Thoughts’ segment. “Don’t get out of control with that, but I just wanna say the word is that it appears as if some progress has been made in that negotiation.

And the fact that Friedman is both getting this and putting it out there is encouraging. Friedman is too big and his words carry too much weight to just throw something out there from a faulty source. This has typically been the way that Sweeney has operated throughout his Bruins tenure, too. Unless you have a great backchannel or get lucky, the bigger moves involving the Bruins tend to get to league sources before it gets to local sources.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Can we just sign this bum and get it over with

 

[wintersej]

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I was living in Austin when Honka was playing in the AHL at 19 or 20 or whatever for the Texas Stars and thought he was going to be an amazing amazing player. Such a great skater. Glad I have a day job.

 

[PB37]

25 goals away from hitting 300 for his career. He might hit that this season, and before turning 27.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

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I remember being happy with the Pastrnak pick, but was also into the Canadiens pick Scherbak. Thought they had similar upside, would be a good rivalry and fun to watch both grow and play one another.

Glad we won this time around.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Sign the man. I do not care if we have to trade Gryz or even someone better than Gryz. We have a deep team but Pasta still seems to be involved in 85% of our goals. Edit I did the math, and it's 41%, still pretty high.

 

[Dellstrom]

Sign the man. I do not care if we have to trade Gryz or even someone better than Gryz. We have a deep team but Pasta still seems to be involved in 85% of our goals.

He’s elite. No two ways around it. He’s in his prime for the next 8 seasons and I’m much less worried about “overpaying” a superstar for a million or two when the cap is going to go up exponentially over that time.

I think the numbers are more or less set and they’re just negotiating details. But would love for this to be over with and him to be locked up.

 

[Tbaybruin]

I trust Sweeney on this one. Sign him to a deal that works out for both parties. 11 mil is good for both. I hope it’s not more. As we all know cap space is so valuable. Team loves Pasta and Pasta loves it here

 

[RoccoF14]

I still think he pulls an Aaron Judge and tests the market. Time is 100% on his side.

That doesn’t mean we still won’t re-sign him, but I think expectations of a ”hometown discount” is wishful thinking. I’m more than happy to be wrong on that, however….

 

[unkempt]

I am very afraid that Pasta / his agent will drive his price too high. I would love him to stay a Bruin.

 

[Smitty93]

I still think he pulls an Aaron Judge and tests the market. Time is 100% on his side.

That doesn’t mean we still won’t re-sign him, but I think expectations of a ”hometown discount” is wishful thinking. I’m more than happy to be wrong on that, however….

Bit of a different situation because there's no penalty for MLB players to return to their team after testing free agency. NHLers are penalized by losing out on the 8th year if they officially test free agency. In the existence of the current contract rule (2013), I believe there's only been one example of a player looking for max term returning to his team: Anders Lee.

I agree time is on his side, but it's only on his side with the Bruins until 11:59pm on June 30th. If the clock strikes midnight and he's not signed, I'd say there's a 99% chance he's not back.

 

[Fenian24]

I am very afraid that Pasta / his agent will drive his price too high. I would love him to stay a Bruin.

Then you sign him even if it is 13M a year for 8 years. He is one on the top goal scorers in the league. The depth with Coyle, Forbort, Grizz is nice but I take a 50-60 goal scorer over depth all day.

 

[wintersej]

Then you sign him even if it is 13M a year for 8 years. He is one on the top goal scorers in the league. The depth with Coyle, Forbort, Grizz is nice but I take a 50-60 goal scorer over depth all day.

You need both but there are many more paths to depth. Unless you are the Oilers, apparently.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

No Bruin fan wants Pasta to walk and neither does Sweeny and no way in hell are the Bruins dealing him when their loaded from top to bottom and they have their eyes set on the Cup, nothing else but the cup. Now as a fan for any other team, sure Id be hoping the bruins would send Pasta my way and I want a sign and trade, but Sorry don't see it happening in this lifetime.

Now I do know Sweeney skinned Verbeek pretty badly in the Lindholm deal, so maybe u as a Duck fan want some retribution, which I totally understand, but nope sorry just isn't happening.

I didn’t see a skinning there at all. Ducks got good value for an expiring contract and impending UFA. Plus, the Ducks were on the positive receiving end of one of the worst TDL deals I’ve ever seen when they took on Backes.

Sweeney’s relationship with the Ducks has been nothing if not mutually beneficial.

 

[TCB]

I didn’t see a skinning there at all. Ducks got good value for an expiring contract and impending UFA. Plus, the Ducks were on the positive receiving end of one of the worst TDL deals I’ve ever seen when they took on Backes.

Sweeney’s relationship with the Ducks has been nothing if not mutually beneficial.

Bob Murray was the GM not Verbeek when the Backes deal went down and the Lindholm deal wouldn't of went down if Verbeek didn't give the Bruins permission to negotiate with Lindholm, so he was only an impending FA on paper.

Top two defenseman aren't easy to come by especially through a trade and when you can acquire one who's in his prime and is locked up for the next 8 years and all u give up is a late first a late second and Vaakanianen, I see a major Skinning.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Bob Murray was the GM not Verbeek when the Backes deal went down and the Lindholm deal wouldn't of went down if Verbeek didn't give the Bruins permission to negotiate with Lindholm, so he was only an impending FA on paper.

Top two defenseman aren't easy to come by especially through a trade and when you can acquire one who's in his prime and is locked up for the next 8 years and all u give up is a late first a late second and Vaakanianen, I see a Skinning big time.

He wasn’t signing in Anaheim. So for them, he was a UFA.

A first, two seconds and a young roster player is a pretty standard price for this type of deal. I doubt the Ducks would have done better otherwise.

 

[TCB]

He wasn’t signing in Anaheim. So for them, he was a UFA.

A first, two seconds and a young roster player is a pretty standard price for this type of deal. I doubt the Ducks would have done better otherwise.

No he wasnt but the trade wouldn't have been made if the Bruins didnt have the right to talk with his agent and come to deal. I also believe one of those seconds was for taking on John Moore's contract.

Watching this guy play over his Bruins career its chalked up as a skinning imo. He's a stud an all around stud and good luck too Verbeek and the Ducks with those picks in trying to get anything close to the equivalent of a former Number 6 pick over all in Hampus Linholm, it just isn't happening.

 

[dangermike]

Maybe dom might be the best one to answer this but- the twitter acxounts I “trust” suggest the deal will get done and will remain around 11mil- what are some factors that can make one 11/yr contract more attractive than another?

 

[Gee Wally]

Maybe dom might be the best one to answer this but- the twitter acxounts I “trust” suggest the deal will get done and will remain around 11mil- what are some factors that can make one 11/yr contract more attractive than another?

the signing bonus. The 11 is an average.
Money is always worth more in the now. But it also effects cash flow of the spender. So hypothetically could be front loaded lets say 15 million year one.
As importantly is making it lock out proof. Getting nearly all your money , our timing heavy bonus for potential lock out year.
In lockout base salary wont be paid but signing bonus is vested and must be paid. Current cba expires after 25 - 26 season. So no league income possibly but player bonus for that off season, potential lockout, must be paid.


here is Pastas current expiring contract. You can see how structured to get big paychecks up front.

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[BigBadBruins7708]

Maybe dom might be the best one to answer this but- the twitter acxounts I “trust” suggest the deal will get done and will remain around 11mil- what are some factors that can make one 11/yr contract more attractive than another?

Big one is the Bruins can offer $11m more than anyone else (Bruins can go to 8 years, everyone else can only offer 7).

Plus the Bruins can sell him on having a good young core (Swayman 25, McAvoy 25, Lindholm 28, Zacha 25, Carlo 27) and what they can do with Pastrnak as the centerpiece

 

[Gee Wally]

Big one is the Bruins can offer $11m more than anyone else (Bruins can go to 8 years, everyone else can only offer 7).

Plus the Bruins can sell him on having a good young core (Swayman 25, McAvoy 25, Lindholm 28, Zacha 25, Carlo 27) and what they can do with Pastrnak as the centerpiece

while thats true, the extra year is a Boston selling point, per the cba if he goes ufa a team can offer 7 years at 20% of the cap. Or 16m per.

Probable? Not in my opinion. But thats a big gap from 11 to 16 even with one less year.

Matthews made 15.9

 

[22Brad Park]

while thats true, the extra year is a Boston selling point, per the cba if he goes ufa a team can offer 7 years at 20% of the cap. Or 16m per.

Probable? Not in my opinion. But thats a big gap from 11 to 16 even with one less year.

Matthews made 15.9

I am praying Pasta just loves Boston and his buddy Krecji told him he will be back another yr to sell it .He will be set financially either way.Add to it he could have gotten more his last deal and took less so that at least says he is not solely about money.You make a great point here but it scares me lol

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

while thats true, the extra year is a Boston selling point, per the cba if he goes ufa a team can offer 7 years at 20% of the cap. Or 16m per.

Probable? Not in my opinion. But thats a big gap from 11 to 16 even with one less year.

Matthews made 15.9

True, I read more like they were asking more what factors would make one $11m offer better than another $11m offer.

 

[Gee Wally]

True, I read more like they were asking more what factors would make one $11m offer better than another $11m offer.

ok, its the payout - bonus , how much / when.
no different than his current contract.
He got most payout up front. But saved some bonus if there was a lockout. The cba was extended though.
My opinion is he will be looking for same structure and guaranteed money so as to cover the reasons I stated earlier.

 

[ODAAT]

Pasta gonna get richer and we as fans will be enriched with another 8 years of him, book it