Confirmed with Link: David Nonis TML GM|Brian Burke Hired as Senior Advisor - II

[Woodman19]

Wow. John Shannon just said he doesn't think Nonis will be GM by next year's training camp.

Of course he wont, they are tearing down a failed front office and are going to rebuild, they just can not hire anyone of real substance until the end of the year when teams will let their staff pursue options.

 

[Timmer44]

In Part this makes me think:

"MLSE can't possibly be stupid enough to think that firing the GM and most public figure in Toronto sports 1 week before the season would be a good PR move"


then I shake my head and realize... yes they really are that stupid.

It could be far worse if some embarrassing personal details come out. Read Steve Simmons column from last summer: http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2012/06/05/19841851.html

 

[Terrence]

McCowan still "100% sure that it was Gardiner + Kadri"

 

[Longshot]

Of course he wont, they are tearing down a failed front office and are going to rebuild, they just can not hire anyone of real substance until the end of the year when teams will let their staff pursue options.

Then why not name him Interim GM?

I understand what you're saying (you need someone to run the show after you can Burke), but Anselmi talked like Nonis is the man.

But I guess the bottom line is they can make a change whenever they want. So what's the difference if Nonis has Interim in front of his title or not? If they want to go in another direction they will.

 

[binop7]

McCowan still "100% sure that it was Gardiner + Kadri"

Shannon saying Gardiner was never mentioned to the people he talked to

 

[KPower]

When the board trades Kadri and Gardiner for Luongo I wil be interested in what the Burke haters will say.

 

[joepeps]

McCowan still "100% sure that it was Gardiner + Kadri"

If they make that deal, they will lose a lot of fan... Hundreds of thousands if not millions

 

[AndMat*]

When is Dave Nonis contract up anyone know?

 

[topched]

Of course he wont, they are tearing down a failed front office and are going to rebuild, they just can not hire anyone of real substance until the end of the year when teams will let their staff pursue options.

Why not put an interim label on him then?

And who is going to be available next offseason that isn't available now? I can guarantee you all of the GM's on "good" teams aren't going to get fired.

And its not like MLSE is going to have another chance to lure someone with Burke-type pedigree. They just obliterated that... no self respecting GM is going to leave their current situation to enter this three ring circus act.

 

[Muston Atthews]

One of the insiders (I forget who) tweeted the other day that the Toronto Maple Leafs had told the LA Kings that they won't be pursuing Jonathon Bernier anymore. Maybe these rumours (players involved + burke not paying up) has to do with that

 

[Leaf Rocket]

When is Dave Nonis contract up anyone know?

i think two more years off the top of my head but I can't recall.

 

[binop7]

Shannon bringing up Burke overshadowing the team being a reason for his firing. I'd throw tons of money at Florida's gm I can't remember his name right now. Won the cup with Chicago too.

 

[Lebanese Leaf]

Shannon bringing up Burke overshadowing the team being a reason for his firing. I'd throw tons of money at Florida's gm I can't remember his name right now. Won the cup with Chicago too.

Dale Tallon

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Shannon bringing up Burke overshadowing the team being a reason for his firing. I'd throw tons of money at Florida's gm I can't remember his name right now. Won the cup with Chicago too.

dale tallon. i'd loved to have him here, one of the smartest gms out there.

 

[Woodman19]

Then why not name him Interim GM?

I understand what you're saying (you need someone to run the show after you can Burke), but Anselmi talked like Nonis is the man.

But I guess the bottom line is they can make a change whenever they want. So what's the difference if Nonis has Interim in front of his title or not? If they want to go in another direction they will.

My take is that Burke yielding enough power that he could of single handedly pulled off a Luongo deal to squeeze into the playoffs and decided to take the power out of his hands the only way they could and since no one is available who is a long term GM option they are letting it ride through the season. Once the season ends and we fail to make the playoffs we will can the entire front office and look for the next hot shot young GM to rebuild the entire organization from top to bottom ala Alex Anthopolous. If that is anything to go by with their handling of the Jays, Rogers will keep their hands off and let the hockey guys run the hockey team.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

Tallon

 

[binop7]

Dale Tallon

Thanks, I think he's a great gm. Burke just didn't work out here, over promised under delivered, maybe in a different universe where he didn't make all those claims he'd still be gm. I'm sure he'll find success elsewhere

 

[AndMat*]

i think two more years off the top of my head but I can't recall.

Anselmi was on the fan talking to Cox, He said Dave Nonis will be GM of the leafs till his contract is up,

 

[Longshot]

My take is that Burke yielding enough power that he could of single handedly pulled off a Luongo deal to squeeze into the playoffs and decided to take the power out of his hands the only way they could and since no one is available who is a long term GM option they are letting it ride through the season. Once the season ends and we fail to make the playoffs we will can the entire front office and look for the next hot shot young GM to rebuild the entire organization from top to bottom ala Alex Anthopolous. If that is anything to go by with their handling of the Jays, Rogers will keep their hands off and let the hockey guys run the hockey team.

But, what if the young core put in place by Burke gels during this shortened season and the Leafs make the playoffs and win a round?

How do you explain starting over after that?

 

[calcal798]

Why would we trade a top pairing d-man and an elite winger entering his prime to RESTART a rebuild?

good lord are we columbus? We do have some solid pieces on this team, we're really only missing a piece or two.

I was saying in comparison Id rather sit through a full and proper rebuild to make this team better (and yes trading Phaneuf and Kessel would be part of that) then trade those two for Luongo.

If those two pieces are Crosby and Malkin we'd be solid, other then that we are far from a competitive team.

 

[Confucius]

Anselmi was on the fan talking to Cox, He said Dave Nonis will be GM of the leafs till his contract is up,

LMAO, there`s a vote of confidence

 

[leafsfuture]

The one silver lining of Burke's firing is that we dont have a GM who will be stressed to make a move for the sake of it in this shortened season.

Me personally, I think we should ride the season with what we have.... see if we can unload Connolly and Lombardi, then start a fresh in the summer

 

[Woodman19]

But, what if the young core put in place by Burke gels during this shortened season and the Leafs make the playoffs and win a round?

How do you explain starting over after that?

Rebuilding an organization does not mean tearing down the team. You hear the word "rebuild" and think it means you trade away talent for draft picks and hope it sticks but the world rebuild is to take something that didn't work and rebuild it into something that does. The Leafs have not had good enough scouting and player development and that's why we have not been able to develop our own NHL talent. If we bring in the right people it doesn't matter where you draft you will find and cultivate talent, thats why you see the same teams do it over and over again. If we were able to make the playoffs with this roster and they still rebuild the front office, its possible to add new scouts/coaches/administration while keeping the team mostly intact. It could also aid us long term by finally providing a sustainable amount of home grown talent to augment the team via trades and prospects making the jump.

Everyone thinks the job of the GM is to make trades and sign free agents for the NHL team, but the job is to make sure the franchise keeps replenishing talent in all aspects to allow for long term success. That is where Brian Burke has failed the most.

 

[kihei]

Maybe they meant to fire Bryan Colangelo and made a mistake. Maybe they got the wrong Brian. I think in the long run this will just be another bad chapter in a bad book that I seem to have been reading all my life.

 

[tp71]

No Cox stepped right in and helped Anselmi up from the standing 8 count. What a dummy. He had him down for the count.

Yea, I heard that. Totally disappointing.