Development comes from a lot of things besides game time. His biggest issues are in strength and skating so I imagine the gym time and skating training is the focus right now.
Just because he's not in a game doesn't mean he's not improving.
Player Discussion: David Jiricek
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Development comes from a lot of things besides game time. His biggest issues are in strength and skating so I imagine the gym time and skating training is the focus right now.
Just because he's not in a game doesn't mean he's not improving.
Well, talk to him about that. He and essentially a handful of fans are the only people who thinks he deserves to be in the NHL.
I assume he enjoys the NHL paycheck, not sure if he gets the same amount while playing in the AHL after signing his ELC.
Bottom line, IMO, I personally don’t care about Jiricek if the team is winning games.
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Clearly you don't follow the CBJ and only see Jiricek sitting in the press box at the NHL level. Very difficult situation for the team given the way he was handled LAST year under Jarmo. I believe there is concern a trip back to the AHL will open a trip out of North America and a push for Jiricek to go back to Europe, which is not what the team wants. Tough spot for the player and the team based on prior handling. Not to mention he still needs a lot of work on his skating.
And you are correct... You play to win and right now that does not include Jiricek.
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David, you’re not fooling anyone.
I thought it was interesting that Haviland said that they're not worried about David losing his offensive creativity. They're going to focus on the other things because they're confident the offense will still be there at some point later on.
The one thing I'd prefer about the AHL assignment, relative to having David train with the Jackets and play some NHL games, is that he gets to play PP and be the guy offensively. Haviland's point runs somewhat against my priors, but I respect his voice a lot and I'll give this plan a shot.
The one thing I'd prefer about the AHL assignment, relative to having David train with the Jackets and play some NHL games, is that he gets to play PP and be the guy offensively. Haviland's point runs somewhat against my priors, but I respect his voice a lot and I'll give this plan a shot.
I've never really been impressed with Jiricek and never loved the pick. He's not playing and can't beat out Jack Johnson or Harris. That's pretty concerning.
I wonder what the plan is with him and at what point he asks for a change of scenery, even if he has zero leverage to do so.
Potential return ideas?
I wonder what the plan is with him and at what point he asks for a change of scenery, even if he has zero leverage to do so.
Potential return ideas?
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Jiricek + for Rasmus Andersson? Then give him the Brink's truck to be Werenski's partner or flip him at the 2026 deadline if he doesn't want to sign
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no way the flames trade rasmus even for Jiricek +
the plus would have to be pretty substantial from us imo.
I think the Flames would jump on that offer if they didn't think Andersson would extend through their rebuild.
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What about for Ryan Pulock? I haven't followed his game too closely lately but he is a RD on a reasonable deal
I don't know from watching personally but I've heard more complaints about his contract lately. He's signed through age 35 so there is some risk there.
Isles fans have also discussed moving his old D partner Pelech, who I would have thought was untouchable.
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I think the notion of trading a 21 year old defenseman for not playing well is ridiculous. Especially for guys who are nearly/are 30+ years old. This team isn’t good enough to make aggressive deals like that.
Continue to be patient with Jiricek unless he/his camp continue kicking and screaming behind closed doors. And if they are, you’re looking for a top prospect swap.
Continue to be patient with Jiricek unless he/his camp continue kicking and screaming behind closed doors. And if they are, you’re looking for a top prospect swap.
eh, even for a top prospect swap I'd still go back to your 1st sentence. Unless he and his agent look to force something it's all ridiculous. We need the player Jiricek has the potential to become more than the player we would get for him in a trade
Jiriceks performance was disappointing again. Im baffled why he wouldnt opt for 25 mins of playing time in the AHL to refine his skills. Playing only 9 mins a night and struggling significantly doesn't seem like a productive development path.
It's possible that the team has a program in place for him, as he hasn't improved in the AHL as much as they expected. Especially when it comes to skating and strength training.
david jiricek's NHL salary: $918,333
david jiricek's AHL salary: $82,500
that's why
Jiricek did a good job unleashing his shot last night. I was less concerned about him last night.
It was also nice to see him activate on the 6 on 5, really ridiculous the ref took the bait calling that penalty
It was also nice to see him activate on the 6 on 5, really ridiculous the ref took the bait calling that penalty
yeah i went to bed after the first period but i thought he was doing a good job of getting shots off, keeping them low, and adjusting the release angle. i also wouldn't expect the coaching staff to get too bent out of shape on the interference call seeing as it was a sell job by granlund.
woke up this morning confused to see (among, uh, other things) that he only logged 9 minutes of ice time.
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The good news about Jiricek is that the current management isn't beholden to him. They didn't take him 6th overall-he's just another player on the roster to them.
A few Pros: He's still only 20 and a defenseman and dman sometimes take time to develop and he's got a good shot that one would think that would be good PP material at some point.
A few Cons: Attitude apparently questionable. Skating needs work
If the current management thinks he's a keeper, then so be it. If they don't, then I hope they move on from him as he probably still has some decent trade value. I don't have a strong opinion either way.
A few Pros: He's still only 20 and a defenseman and dman sometimes take time to develop and he's got a good shot that one would think that would be good PP material at some point.
A few Cons: Attitude apparently questionable. Skating needs work
If the current management thinks he's a keeper, then so be it. If they don't, then I hope they move on from him as he probably still has some decent trade value. I don't have a strong opinion either way.
if you watched after the 1st it got worst, he takes a lot of high risk plays which i cant blame him hes young... he will pinch at a time you dont need for ex: last night he pitched, great it worked! he got the puck then without looking he shoots it to the middle of the ice, sharks get the puck and get a 2 on 1.
i understand that but if you take a year in the AHL and work on your craft/skills and become a better player your next deal could be 4m+ rather then a 1m deal
sure, but jiricek and his agent clearly disagree with the notion that he make improvements and grow in the NHL given that he already spent a year (and then some) in the AHL.
i'm not saying the AHL wouldn't be better, just responding to your question about why the player (and by extension, his representation) would prefer the NHL paycheck to AHL development.
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Doesn't help that he apparently was pretty dominant in the ahl. Not that he has nothing to refine(his skating is really meh), but the NHL may just be the best place to get there.
He was dominant at 5v4 and 6v5.
At 5v5 he wasn't dominant, not even above average in my opinion. There were two or three of our AHL D that looked better to me at 5v5.
Well let's assume you get paid 80k a year for your job, if you had two choices, either get a 1m raise now or hone your craft for one more year getting paid 80k and then get a 1m raise, which option would you choose?
Seriously though, that's a big difference in pay and while 80k a year is good money, it doesn't really set you up for the future the way 1m does in case your career ends abruptly. If I were an AHL player I wouldn't want to spend a day longer in that league than I have to - that is if the other option was NHL.
