What's Up With Verhaeghe?

[Goptor]

That would affect more than just him though right?

I mean the +/- is the worst on the team by a longshot.

Because it has some relevance taken with context, some people just want to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

2nd in ENG allowed

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The Colorado Avalanche have given up the most empty-net goals by a team this season, with 10 allowed.

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1st in SHG allowed

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The Florida Panthers have allowed the most shorthanded goals by a team this season, with 5 allowed.

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1st in SHG scored

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The Florida Panthers have scored the most shorthanded goals by a team this season, with 5 scored.

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The other guys are out there racking up +s on the PK while Verhaeghe isn't. Do we really need a stat that gives a really poor view of player usage when we already have the exact TOI numbers doing the same thing?

 

[NotCommitted]

He's -6 5v5, or 42% goals for with 55% xGF% ... PDO is .939 (absurdly low)

I haven't really seen him play this year but just nerding on the most basic advanced stats I'd say he'll be fine.

 

[wetcoast]

2nd in ENG allowed

Teams With The Most Empty Net Goals Allowed 2024-2025 | StatMuse

The Colorado Avalanche have given up the most empty-net goals by a team this season, with 10 allowed.

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1st in SHG allowed

Which Team Has Given Up The Most Short Handed Goals | StatMuse

The Florida Panthers have allowed the most shorthanded goals by a team this season, with 5 allowed.

www.statmuse.com

1st in SHG scored

NHL Team Most Short Handed Goals 2024-2025 | StatMuse

The Florida Panthers have scored the most shorthanded goals by a team this season, with 5 scored.

www.statmuse.com

The other guys are out there racking up +s on the PK while Verhaeghe isn't. Do we really need a stat that gives a really poor view of player usage when we already have the exact TOI numbers doing the same thing?

He has been on the ice for 26 ESGA which is tied for 10th overall in the league and tops on the Panthers.

Some bad luck sure maybe but it's relevant.

 

[Goptor]

He has been on the ice for 26 ESGA which is tied for 10th overall in the league and tops on the Panthers.

Some bad luck sure maybe but it's relevant.

So you needed to use another stat to explain +/-

 

[archangel2]

I despise the plus/minus stat. It often means you are playing against the other teams top line more than others

 

[Honour Over Glory]

He has only five goals, but more alarmingly, he's -16.

Plus/minus is a stat that requires consideration of context to have any real meaning.

Well, he plays on a good team (that won the Cup last year) and has by far the worst rating on his team.

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Other than bad luck, what's the problem?

The Panthers went to the finals 2yrs in a row. They're tired. The moment the Allstar break hits and that dumb 4 Nations bs, they'll get the rest and have a stronger second half.

They went the distance two yrs in a row, that takes a toll.

 

[biturbo19]

I don't know that anything is really "up" with him. More likely, he's just having a bit of a Cup Hangover season, and was never nearly as good as some of his results made him look. Same as he's probably not as bad as his current results may look.

 

[centipede2233]

He signed his retirement contract opening day

 

[Mogo]

He's signed until he's 36 and is declining already. I'm not sure many teams would be happy with his pay and production.

I mean he's no Huberdeau