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Kings News: Dan Carcillo to the Kings for conditional 2015 5th rounder

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Primakov! said:
As you said, the majority of those would not have been prevented by someone like Carcillo being on the ice.

Though I'd point out that the David Perron and T.J. Galiardi shenanigans would most likely have been curtailed if someone, really just about anyone, had confronted those players on behalf of Quick.

Neither of those players are what you would consider the prototypical physical agitating types yet they had no fear of retribution from either the Kings or the referees and took great pleasure in bumping, blowing snow, and standing right on top of Quick time and again.

It doesn't have to be Carcillo specifically, but someone needed to step up and draw the line in the sand that it's unacceptable to do that to their starting netminder and it never really happened. St. Louis did it and then San Jose picked up right where they left off and did it as well. It'll most likely keep happening until the team demonstrates that enough is enough.

It's that whole banding together and looking out for your brother-in-arms mentality that Lombardi harped on them about before. If it takes one crazy SOB of a player like Carcillo to do it first to get the others going then that's fine as long as SOMEONE does it.
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Grow up and put the homer glasses down. Brown, Richards, Stoll, Penner... have all done the same thing to opposing goaltenders.
Actually it's funny how Quick was absolutely dominating those two teams and had more trouble against the less physical and less in your face team like the Blackhawks..
And I doubt Carcillo would go after Perron or Galiardi and if he would I would say that the Kings would end on the short end of the stick...
 
Keep in mind also all that Carcillo will be a UFA and is 28. Clifford is 22 and a RFA and Nolan is 24 and a RFA. This could just be a kick in the ass for those two for next season and gives Lombardi flexibility later in the year.
 
Also:
from user GKJ, whose posts I really like:
I wouldn't say that having Carcillo necessarily would detract other players from not getting physical. He only got into one fight this year and it was against Nikita Nikitin.
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He'll be fine as a fourth liner. He'll play like 5-6 minutes a game. Is this really that big of a deal to people?
 
Minor Boarding said:
Grow up and put the homer glasses down. Brown, Richards, Stoll, Penner... have all done the same thing to opposing goaltenders.
Actually it's funny how Quick was absolutely dominating those two teams and had more trouble against the less physical and less in your face team like the Blackhawks..
And I doubt Carcillo would go after Perron or Galiardi and if he would I would say that the Kings would end on the short end of the stick...
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That doesn't really change what he is saying.
Yeah, we got guys who do the same thing to goalies... And the teams we do it to SHOULD have guys who are willing to make you think twice about trying it.
 
Minor Boarding said:
And enlighten me which of those things would Carcillo prevent?
Heck I'm going to tell you something shocking - Carcillo wouldn't have a roster spot in the playoffs...
But hey I will let you dream on with the idea that Dan Carcillo would be a factor in any of the playoff games played.
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Pretty much this. It's cute to think that Carcillo will deter anyone from anything or dole out punishment to the other team, but reality is the only thing he'll be destroying come playoff time are hot dogs and nachos in the press box.
 
Carcillo is one of those guys who looks like he has a screw loose, especially in the past. He's not a lunatic like Sean Avery or Rich Clune, but he's like a less talented version of Matt Cooke and without the long history of career ending cheapshots. He actually can be a rather effective player and pest when he isn't committing stupid penalties.
 
jml87 said:
He'll be fine as a fourth liner. He'll play like 5-6 minutes a game. Is this really that big of a deal to people?
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Not as much of a big deal as it's a stupid one. Carcillo doesn't bring anything other than stupid penalties, goofie faces and turnovers... Basically something 1/2 of Manchester can do without the Carcillo diving/suspension baggage.
 
We used to have Raitis Ivanans and Kevin Westgarth. Last year was the first year the Kings went enforcer-less. Not saying Carcillo is an enforcer, but teams with success that don't have an enforcer usually go the route of team toughness. Having Clifford the only one in the line-up who can handle that is not team toughness. Nolan sat out a few games during the regular season and playoffs.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Carcillo is one of those guys who looks like he has a screw loose, especially in the past. He's not a lunatic like Sean Avery or Rich Clune, but he's like a less talented version of Matt Cooke and without the long history of career ending cheapshots. He actually can be a rather effective player and pest when he isn't committing stupid penalties.
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I don't see any problem with his hockey skills, Carcillo can play regular shifts in the NHL... Attitude is the main issue for me.
 
Minor Boarding said:
Not as much of a big deal as it's a stupid one. Carcillo doesn't bring anything other than stupid penalties, goofie faces and turnovers... Basically something 1/2 of Manchester can do without the Carcillo diving/suspension baggage.
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And if he does I'm sure Sutter will sit him. When he was on the 4th line for the Flyers, he was good. It could turn out to be ok. It's just another possible option. It's not like our 4th line this year was anything fantastic especially in the playoffs.

I will say that there is a reason for hating Carcillo, but I'm afraid if I say why people will be even more annoyed with this move :laugh:
 
Maybe he is Nolan's replacement. The boy regressed last year and at 825000 it's not much more then Nolan would get if it goes to arbitration. Still like Nolan and would love to see him in the AHL one more year but can't remember if he is eligible without waivers.

Does anyone know if Chicago ate any salary? DL tried to sneak the fact that TO ate salary by us, just wondering if anyone heard.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Carcillo is one of those guys who looks like he has a screw loose, especially in the past. He's not a lunatic like Sean Avery or Rich Clune, but he's like a less talented version of Matt Cooke and without the long history of career ending cheapshots. He actually can be a rather effective player and pest when he isn't committing stupid penalties.
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I know this is way off topic but Rich Clune is a lunatic? I didn't know that :laugh:
 
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