Dan Bylsma Hot Seat Pt. III | Shero pushing for Bylsma extension

[Waffle Fries]

There is absolutely no chance Torts gets hired here. He burned that bridge. Besides, why would he want to coach two whining stars and one of the most arrogant organizations in the league anyways?

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

There is absolutely no chance Torts gets hired here. He burned that bridge. Besides, why would he want to coach two whining stars and one of the most arrogant organizations in the league anyways?

Agreed, can you imagine they would hire him after having called out some of our players. That wouldn't be very smart and kind of off to a horrible start before even playing

 

[KIRK]

Of all the available coaching candidates, I think it's safe to narrow it down to 4 guys. Torts, Ruff, Boucher and Maurice. This organization isn't going to make a big gamble by bringing in anyone that doesn't have a track record with a certain amount of recent success and they aren't going to bring in anyone that's been out of the game for half a decade either. And they will of course conduct interviews and that sort of thing, but I think it'll come down to a coach's body of work in the past and how likely they are to have success with *this* team right now. Anybody can interview well. That's how Olczyk got the head coaching job.

Tortorella: He has the best resume of the bunch. A Cup, A Jack Adams, 2 more nominations. He teaches accountability but doesn't stifle elite offensive players. His negatives are that he probably has a short shelf-life as a coach because of his abrasiveness and his other antics.. and his negative comments about the Penguins organization might hurt his stance not only with our management but with certain players in the room.

Ruff: Probably the safest pick in the bunch. He doesn't have Torts' resume but he doesn't come with any baggage either. He's just a solid coach. He's won the Jack Adams once and been to the Finals once. His teams aren't purely run and gun and they aren't purely trap teams either, they're hybrids and they can play multiple styles and win many different ways. He seems like a good mix between a straight ball-buster and a player-friendly guy. His lack of success with a loaded Buffalo team that finally went out and spent to the cap is a concern though.

Maurice: Not the best of the bunch as far as past success but he might have an edge in that he already has an idea of what buttons to push with Malkin.. and he's also coached Jokinen and Adams previously. His teams tend to be pretty tough defensively if nothing else. He went to the Finals once in 02.

Boucher: The weakest choice of the bunch IMO. Too inexperienced prior to coming to the NHL and I think that while Tampa Bay isn't exactly a great roster they still probably underachieved the last 2 seasons under him. And while I don't care what system the team employs as long as it works, the 1-3-1 is in my opinion ineffective.

So I think with that you narrow it down to Tortorella and Ruff... And go either with the higher-risk higher-reward Torts or the safer Ruff.

I don't see how Tippett doesn't make that list.

I'm not sure it's a 100% guarantee that the Coyotes will still be playing in Arizona next year. I suspect that might be the holdup, as it was with Doan.

Could be. Then again, an 'out clause' isn't too hard to negotiate. No, I think he's waiting to see what his other options might be. Doesn't mean that he won't opt to stay with the Yotes, just that it's not all but a done deal right now. No matter what people claim, the fact that it isn't done suggests otherwise.

 

[Pancakes]

I forgot about Vigneault... But I consider him a lesser candidate than Ruff and Torts, so I think it's still down to those two. Vigneault's teams tend to have the same playoff issues Bylsma's do, so while their styles are different it seems like a lateral move.

Not saying they necessarily should get him but I do believe he'd be very much considered if Bylsma goes.

As far as Torts is concerned, it does seem unlikely we'd hire him given his comments, but I don't think Torts would turn down us down if asked. In fact he'd jump at the opportunity. The question is not whether he would consider us but whether we'd consider him. Any NHL coach without a coaching job is going to all but leap at any job offer.

Man, every minute that goes by without Bylsma being fired makes me more nervous. Please make the right call, Ray. I'll support the team regardless because I'm too invested not to, but it will really suck to go into next season with Dan at the helm.

 

[66-30-33]

If Tippett is the coach, that means Quebec City is back in the NHL. Otherwise, he's coaching that team. It's June 11. The chances of this scenario panning out are really, really remote.

Bet Phoenix has 1 more year left, if not then DB firing is a must. Tippett would be sick with us and we would never have D or goalie problems again with him here. Might even consider Fleury or else go for Smith at 5M with his success with Tippett.

 

[Jacob]

I'm not counting Tippett because I think the chance of him leaving Phoenix are too slim.

 

[KIRK]

I'm not counting Tippett because I think the chance of him leaving Phoenix are too slim.

That's fair, and, as anyone would concede, you may be right. Then again, if he wanted a deal with an out clause in case the team moves, then Maloney would've given it to him already. As I said, not saying that he doesn't stay or pass in the end. I just really wonder if he's waiting to see if the Pens job is an option.

 

[Waffle Fries]

I have Twitter opened with 'Bylsma' searched just in case there's any updates (no, I'm not obsessed )

Anyways, some random girl who's there for the 98 degrees concert tonight just tweeted that she met Dan Bylsma as he was walking into Consol.

Maybe he's going to get the news now

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

I have Twitter opened with 'Bylsma' searched just in case there's any updates (no, I'm not obsessed )

Anyways, some random girl who's there for the 98 degrees concert tonight just tweeted that she met Dan Bylsma as he was walking into Consol.

Maybe he's going to get the news now

He looks like a 98 degrees fan

 

[Waffle Fries]

He looks like a 98 degrees fan

Probably is.

And I just saw this:

Penguins Brasil @PPenguinsBr
Rumores de que Bylsma e Shero estão reunidos nesse momento decidindo sobre a situação do técnico do Penguins.

Which Google Translate told me means:

Rumors that Bylsma and Shero are meeting right now deciding on the status of the Penguins coach.


Dun dun dunnnnn

 

[66-30-33]

Probably is.

And I just saw this:

Penguins Brasil @PPenguinsBr
Rumores de que Bylsma e Shero estão reunidos nesse momento decidindo sobre a situação do técnico do Penguins.

Which Google Translate told me means:

Rumors that Bylsma and Shero are meeting right now deciding on the status of the Penguins coach.


Dun dun dunnnnn

A meeting? Lets hope we get good news within the hour. Mario and Sheros meeting better be "new coach, he's given us 4 years". I'm sure if he's fired he would have many teams wanting him because his regular season success.

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

I have Twitter opened with 'Bylsma' searched just in case there's any updates (no, I'm not obsessed )

Anyways, some random girl who's there for the 98 degrees concert tonight just tweeted that she met Dan Bylsma as he was walking into Consol.

Maybe he's going to get the news now

98 Degrees still exists/is touring?

 

[Waffle Fries]

98 Degrees still exists/is touring?

I had to go on Consol's site to check to make sure it was true.

It's actually New Kids on the Block, 98 Degrees and Boyz II Men there tonight.

Let's hope that unlike them, Shero knows when it's time to give something up.

 

[sexyllama]

I had to go on Consol's site to check to make sure it was true.

It's actually New Kids on the Block, 98 Degrees and Boyz II Men there tonight.

Let's hope that unlike them, Shero knows when it's time to give something up.

hahah...

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Sounds like a decision will be made and Shero might tell Dan it's best if we go our separate ways!

 

[Speaking Moistly]

I had to go on Consol's site to check to make sure it was true.

It's actually New Kids on the Block, 98 Degrees and Boyz II Men there tonight.

Let's hope that unlike them, Shero knows when it's time to give something up.

How fitting a concert for Bylsma to get fired around.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

How fitting a concert for Bylsma to get fired around.

Mario's personal suite for the night and then you GTFO

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Mario's personal suite for the night and then you GTFO

Ah, a final punishment, clever.

 

[Til the End of Time]

this team needs to get back to basics. this team needs to get back to what got them to two consecutive finals and one stanley cup.

they simply need crosby and malkin firing on all cylinders and a disciplined, defensively sound system. they dont need an all-star blueline and they don't need stupendous goaltending. they dont need a fourth forward putting up huge points to be successful. they dont need an insane goaltender making insane saves.

get crosby and malkin some decent wingers that compliment them and get the entire team playing sound defensive/disciplined hockey. get rid of headcase fleury. consider getting rid of letang. get some stability in net and on the blueline. nothing spectacular, just seek out more players that are more consistent than nutcases like fleury and letang.

so, the question is can bylsma get this team to commit to a defensively sound system for more than a handful of games. the answer is a resounding NO. so, get sometime else.

 

[66-30-33]

Mario's personal suite for the night and then you GTFO

Stay and enjoy the concert but after GTFO!!! Or I'll call the cops.

 

[Waffle Fries]

How fitting a concert for Bylsma to get fired around.

Mario's personal suite for the night and then you GTFO

Ah, a final punishment, clever.

How many jokes are here just waiting to be written?

Personally, I'd like to see Shero wait until Boyz II Men's sing 'End of the Road' and deliver the news then.

 

[plaidchuck]

The team needs to simply be built and coached to be able to beat the Devils consistently. Everything else would fall into place.

 

[Jacob]

That's fair, and, as anyone would concede, you may be right. Then again, if he wanted a deal with an out clause in case the team moves, then Maloney would've given it to him already. As I said, not saying that he doesn't stay or pass in the end. I just really wonder if he's waiting to see if the Pens job is an option.

Otherwise Tippett would be the best choice, by far.

 

[MtlPenFan]

If they're not going to fire him, it would be nice to get some wingers who are self starters for a change.

It's for that reason alone that I kinda want Dupuis gone, and wouldn't even shed much of a tear if they decide to get rid of Kunitz. Time to get EVERYONE, coaches and players, out of their respective comfort zones.

 

[plaidchuck]

If they're not going to fire him, it would be nice to get some wingers who are self starters for a change.

It's for that reason alone that I kinda want Dupuis gone, and wouldn't even shed much of a tear if they decide to get rid of Kunitz. Time to get EVERYONE, coaches and players, out of their respective comfort zones.

Yeah I honestly wouldn't mind a mini-rebuild. Better to go through temporary pain for big rewards later. Besides there's no difference in losing how they have been and losing because they cleaned house a little bit.