Dale Weise

[Whitesnake]

Dale Weise is our response to the lack of Wayne Simmonds. That's what Therrien wants of this guy. A big guy with some offense who can hit and work hard. We don't have a Simmonds, a Kane or whoever with WAY more offensive abilities...we have to turn to Weise. Sad but true. But he's not doing a bad job. Just don't think it makes any sense to be a regular at that spot.

 

[Mr. Hab]

Dale Weise is our response to the lack of Wayne Simmonds. That's what Therrien wants of this guy. A big guy with some offense who can hit and work hard. We don't have a Simmonds, a Kane or whoever with WAY more offensive abilities...we have to turn to Weise. Sad but true. But he's not doing a bad job. Just don't think it makes any sense to be a regular at that spot.

Bingo!!

Weise is the closest thing we have to a Wayne Simmonds.
(a very cheap/poor man's version of Simmonds).
Makes perfect sense to play him sometimes on the 1st or 2nd.

Tall/big, fast, right-handed, heart/hustle, underrated shot/passing/hockey sense.


RIGHT-WINGERS:
<Gallagher (top 6-9 warrior/sparkplug)
<Weise (VERY underrated playoff warrior)
<P-A Parenteau (soft, do we want him in our top 9 for playoffs? not me...I would trust Rene Bourque way more for playoffs more than PAP).
<Sherbak (right-winger...in 1 yr or less?)

We do not have that many top 6-9 right-wingers...we should ALL be thanking Weise for improving our top 9.

I'd take another Weise...anyday (and what a price tag!).
Simmonds too expensive? I'll hope we somehow find another cheap Weise!

i like Dutch Gretzky, he passes the eye test for me. obviously hes ideally a bottom 6 player but i dont mind throwing him a bone now and then, he hasnt looked bad on our 1st line.
one things for sure, id rather have Weise at 1M over PAP.

Darn right...I'd trade PAP and his salary for another cheap Weise anyday. Anyday.
In fact, Weise and Parenteau shpuld switch salaries.

I really hope PAP comes back before the trade deadline (so we can trade him for a playoff top 9 forward).

Weise gets promoted again and again...'cause he deserves it...'cause he gets the job done...most of the time.

Weise...fast/warrior 3rd-4th liner who can pitch in (and well) on the 1st and 2nd sometimes...awesome for our top 9 depth...awesome.

 

[Foltronic]

Guy has really good hand eye coordination, batting pucks out of the air and makes accurate passes and shots. Played a good game today.

 

[Mr. Hab]

Guy has really good hand eye coordination, batting pucks out of the air and makes accurate passes and shots. Played a good game today.

So happy when Hab fans appreciate our Weise!!
(1mil/year for another season...major major bargain...I'd extend him to another 2-3 seasons...now!!). Underrated passing/shot/hockey sense, fast skater, gritty, tall/big, lots of heart/hustle,etc...born to be a Hab!!

Our best right-wingers (PAP is too soft for playoffs, imo):
Gallagher
Weise


No more:
<Hot-playoffs-Rene Bourque (would have kept him just for playoffs...improves our top 9 for playoffs, imo).
<Lazy-***-Zero-in-playoffs-Thomas Vanek (glad he's gone)


We need at least one more right-winger for our top 9-12:
<Steve Bernier??? (for our 4th or 3rd line?)
<Stewart? (somewhat expensive?)
<Simmonds (very expensive...and I want to keep Tinordi, Hudon, Scherbak, McCarron).
<Weise...somehow find another Weise!

 

[Ezpz]

Stewart would clear waivers.

 

[Habskrieg]

I love Weise. I don't hink he belongs on the first line. But he does fit in there for now.

He provides grit, energy to the line. He works hard all the time. He does what he's told. Fights along the boards, digs the corners and provides screening in front of the net. He also is good defensively.

Sure his stats aren't great. But he provides what the first line needs for what we currently have.

Gallagher is a better RW no doubt. But Weise has shown chemistry with Patches, creating scoring chances for him. And we know the gallys play well together. It's just a matter of balancing the lines.

We need a top 6 RW. PAP isn't a solution. So might as well keep working Weise on the first. He may not develop inti a legit first liner. But he could be molded into a useful tool for Pleks and Patches to work with.

The real problem is our top6. Weise is good.

 

[Mr. Hab]

Our best RIGHT-WINGERS right now:
<Gallagher
<Weise (huuuuuge Weise fan!)
<PAP
<_?_
<Sherbak (next season)
<McCarron (1-2yrs away)


I'd take another Weise OVER P-A Parenteau...for playoffs (PAP is not made for playoffs, imo, but...I hope I'm so wrong if we keep him!):
2nd or 1st line: Gallagher
2nd or 1st line: Weise
3rd line: Weise
4th line: _?_


Bergevin has to add a playoffs warrior top 9 RIGHT-WINGER before March trade deadline...it's obvious, imo.


Before TRADE DEADLINE (right-winger):
<Find another Weise...wherever he is?!!: (can be acquired for a softer-than-butter-Diaz!)
<Stewart (can be acquired for a cheap price? 1-2 yrs left on his contract?? too lazy/inconsistent??)
<Steve Bernier?? (for 4th or 3rd line?)
<Simmonds...way too expensive...I don't want to trade Tinordi, Hudon, Scherbak, McCarron.
<any playoff two-way warrior top 9 right-winger...

 

[Foltronic]

If it was up to me I'd trade any one of those guys perhaps even some combined plus a pick to land Simmonds and his sweet contract. Top line of patches plex and simmonds could be unreal.

 

[Mr. Hab]

If it was up to me I'd trade any one of those guys perhaps even some combined plus a pick to land Simmonds and his sweet contract. Top line of patches plex and simmonds could be unreal.

I hope Bergevin, Timmins, Dudley...can find someone as good (or almost) as Simmonds without giving Tinordi, Hudon, Scherbak, McCarron!!

Simmonds' contract is as good as Pacioretty's...Philly has to keep Simmonds...we all would! (plus they're winning more, so they may end up buying, not selling! we shall see!).

I hope Bergevin + Timmins can find another Dale Weise-type of player!!
(darn cheap, darn good/underrated, playoff warrior, and we get to keep all of our gem prospects/rookies..win-win!!).

Right-Wing:
1st: Gallagher
2nd: Weise
3rd: Weise-esque player!
4th: _?_

(Parenteau traded for an all-heart playoff warrior 4th liner?)

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

<Weise (huuuuuge Weise fan!)

Okay, time for you to come clean. How are you related?

 

[Mr. Hab]

Okay, time for you to come clean. How are you related?

3rd cousin

No, seriously...not related, just a huge fan since Bergevin acquired him. Third/fourth liner who can pitch in sometimes on the 1st-2nd, and all for 1mil/year. It's not Weise's fault we are missing right-wingers (our best right-wingers...Gallagher and Weise for 4 lines...most of us now know why Roy gave PAP to us... imo: hot-playoffs-Bourque>PAP).

 

[Bouboumaster]

Clone Weise 3 times, and put him on all four lines.

 

[Habs]

Clone Weise 3 times, and put him on all four lines.

They tried that with Kostopolous

 

[S Bah]

I am very happy to have Weise on the Habs, don't be surprised at all if McCarron joins the team in the playoffs in our top six. Giving the Habs more options on RW and major headaches for rival coaches to deal with besides our goalie, tight defensive game, speed, toughness, point shot(PK Subban) along with two All-Star forwards in Galchenyuk & Pacioretty, and the ever feistiness of Weise, Gallagher, and Prust.

 

[Mr. Hab]

Clone Weise 3 times, and put him on all four lines.

Don't tempt us Weise fans!!! If we could...we would!! (also amazing for our CAP!! 1mil for each right-winger!haha!! but don't forget Gallagher, so...Weise on 2nd, 3rd and 4th!!).

They tried that with Kostopolous

LOL!! but...Weise>>>>>>>>>Kostopoulos
(I appreciated how Kostopoulos was a 4th line warrior...he always defended our smaller players...he was brave as a Hab...that said/written...Weise is a star compared to Kostopoulos, imo, Weise has underrated passing/shooting/hockey sense and is very fast).

Comparables: they're both righties, they both have heart/hustle, after that...Weise has way more speed, skills/vision/hockey sense VS Kostopoulos,etc, and I didn't get a chance to see Kosto in playoffs or can't remember. Weise is a playoff warrior.

I am very happy to have Weise on the Habs, don't be surprised at all if Mike McCarron joins the team in the playoffs in our top six. Giving the Habs more options on RW and major headaches for rival coaches to deal with besides our goalie, tight defensive game, speed, toughness, point shot(PK Subban) along with two All-Star forwards in Galchenyuk & Pacioretty, and the ever feistiness of Weise, Gallagher, and Prust.

Love the optimism

Whenever McCarron can join our team...I just hope his development is not being rushed. If I had to guess...I would say he would join us more for 2016 playoffs (end of next season). This way he would have at least 60 to 80 AHL games.

But hey...if McCarron could join our Habs for the upcoming 2015 playoffs AND help us...I'm all for it. I'd be very surprised...but all for it IF it doesn't ruin his confidence/development,etc.

Scherbak: what are the chances he joins us on the right-wing for 2015 playoffs? (Galchenyuk - Eller - Scherbak...or...Sekac/Prust - Galchenyuk - Scherbak....... maybe Prust there for grit and ''police'' work to protect our young stars,etc, even though I prefer Prust on the 4th line).


RIGHT-WING:
imo, Bergevin definitely has to address this...Gallagher and Weise are our best (not sure about PAP for playoffs...not enough grit/hustle, too soft,etc). Makes me think one of Scherbak or McCarron will be used there for playoffs, unless Bergevin can find another Dale Weise...it's not a bad option and it's cheap/good for our cap (players like Simmonds,etc, are way too pricy... 1st+2nd+gem/star prospects...too expensive).

 

[Mr. Hab]

No bump for Mister ''I scored TWO goals yesterday????!!!!''.
C'mon!!!

Weise...4th line superstar (''I'm way too sexy/good for the 4th line'' and it's true)...3rd line warrior who can pitch in on the 2nd or 1st line sometimes (he gives us amazing top 9 depth)...especially when a team gives away a Rene Bourque who was awesome in playoffs (8 goals in playoffs...most goals by any Hab in 2014 playoffs,etc,etc!!). I would not have traded Bourque...I would have been more patient. Bourque had chemistry with Weise and Pacioretty in playoffs. For me (and I'm not the only one!)...it's all about the playoffs!!!!!!

Our top 9 depth will include another warrior before the March trade deadline...imo. (hopefully Bergevin delivers...and hopefully we can keep all our future studs...Tinordi, Hudon, Scherbak, McCarron...you can keep these 4 gems and improve the team...very possible). Trade bait: Andrighetto, Thomas, maybe Fucale (if price is right),etc.


Allen
FOR
Bourque
(I'd do it!!).

Hot-playoffs-Bourque anyday over AHL-Allen.
(it wasn't a bad try though for dman depth but didn't work out, except...Allen is UFA soon, so that's good).

Back to Weise...so so so happy Bergevin/Timmins traded soft-as-butter-Diaz for Weise!!

Our top 9 would not be sexy without Weise...no doubt about it!!

Give it up for Weise...give it up, please!!!!


Go Weise Go!!
Go Habs Go!!
Go Weise Go!!

 

[BaseballCoach]

3rd cousinmost of us now know why Roy gave PAP to us... imo: hot-playoffs-Bourque>PAP).

Yes, but we forget that Parenteau is an all-Star shootout performer.

In the playoffs, we have to make sure he is on the ice whenever the opponents are likely to close a hand on the puck in the crease.

 

[otto bond]

Yes, but we forget that Parenteau is an all-Star shootout performer.

In the playoffs, we have to make sure he is on the ice whenever the opponents are likely to close a hand on the puck in the crease.

He's on my to go list.

 

[cphabs]

Dale Weise is our response to the lack of Wayne Simmonds. That's what Therrien wants of this guy. A big guy with some offense who can hit and work hard. We don't have a Simmonds, a Kane or whoever with WAY more offensive abilities...we have to turn to Weise. Sad but true. But he's not doing a bad job. Just don't think it makes any sense to be a regular at that spot.

Was the pharmacy closed? Dale would NOT be given the opportunities he has unless... his name was Weisnbeau. He is EARNING the ice time on this team.

 

[mustardnight*]

No bump for Mister ''I scored TWO goals yesterday????!!!!''.
C'mon!!!

Weise...4th line superstar (''I'm way too sexy/good for the 4th line'' and it's true)...3rd line warrior who can pitch in on the 2nd or 1st line sometimes (he gives us amazing top 9 depth)...especially when a team gives away a Rene Bourque who was awesome in playoffs (8 goals in playoffs...most goals by any Hab in 2014 playoffs,etc,etc!!). I would not have traded Bourque...I would have been more patient. Bourque had chemistry with Weise and Pacioretty in playoffs. For me (and I'm not the only one!)...it's all about the playoffs!!!!!!

Our top 9 depth will include another warrior before the March trade deadline...imo. (hopefully Bergevin delivers...and hopefully we can keep all our future studs...Tinordi, Hudon, Scherbak, McCarron...you can keep these 4 gems and improve the team...very possible). Trade bait: Andrighetto, Thomas, maybe Fucale (if price is right),etc.


Allen
FOR
Bourque
(I'd do it!!).

Hot-playoffs-Bourque anyday over AHL-Allen.
(it wasn't a bad try though for dman depth but didn't work out, except...Allen is UFA soon, so that's good).

Back to Weise...so so so happy Bergevin/Timmins traded soft-as-butter-Diaz for Weise!!

Our top 9 would not be sexy without Weise...no doubt about it!!

Give it up for Weise...give it up, please!!!!


Go Weise Go!!
Go Habs Go!!
Go Weise Go!!

It was a wise decision to get rid of Bourque's contract.

 

[cphabs]

Mike McPhee II? Please let it be so!

 

[Mr. Hab]

It was a wise decision to get rid of Bourque's contract.

Well...yes and no (for me).
Bourque is a UFA after the end of next season...he might give one last really good performance (ex: '15 or especially '16 playoffs) or performances. We need his size, shot, grit,etc...imo he was good for our top 9 depth.

Bourque had 8 goals in '14 playoffs...the most by any Hab.
(and was a huge/solid warrior VS Ottawa in '13 playoffs).

Imo, our top 9 would be stronger with Bourque.
Of course, I prefer hot-playoffs-Bourque VS regular-season-Bourque.

We have a top 7 or top 8 right now...we're missing at least one solid top 9 forward (hopefully Bergevin will get a right winger before March trade deadline).

Anyways...
Back to Weise!!

TWO goals yesterday

 

[Whitesnake]

[/B]

Was the pharmacy closed? Dale would NOT be given the opportunities he has unless... his name was Weisnbeau. He is EARNING the ice time on this team.

But of course. Just like Bourque was given his tons of opportunities because his name was Bourque...he HAS to be a francophone too. Dale Weise is NOT a 1st liner. But the reason why he's there is because he is the closest we've got to what a power forward is. Not sure what you don't understand there...for sure that the pharmacy was closed for you.

 

[TRG]

I love Weise but let's not go overboard here.

 

[ECWHSWI]

[/B]

Was the pharmacy closed? Dale would NOT be given the opportunities he has unless... his name was Weisnbeau. He is EARNING the ice time on this team.

of course, you HAD to try to turn this into a language thing...